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Old 02-03-05, 07:14 PM   #1
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Default world record bass....artificial?

:-/ So, in southern California a few relatively small artificial lakes are made. Then they're stocked with imported, non-native bass. On a regular basis they're fed trout that are delivered by truck. ....and they grow and grow, bigger and bigger, fatter and fatter.
Sooner or later, along comes someone who manages to hook and land a blimp-sized largemouth that exceeds Mr. Perry's record by an ounce...or a pound...or more.
A WORLD record? Hmmm... if I build a nice sized pond, and put in some real nice bass, and feed 'em trout and crawfish and nightcrawlers and vitamins...
Ya know what I mean? What do you think about this?
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Old 02-03-05, 07:42 PM   #2
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Default Re: world record bass....artificial?

Yeah, I know what you mean.

The record was nearly broken in the early '90's by Bob Crupi, if I remember correctly, that came within a few ounces of breaking the world record on a California lake.

The bottom line is that even though California offers up 20 plus lb. fish, you still have to catch them.
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Old 02-03-05, 07:59 PM   #3
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Well I really don't have a problem with it. Heck half the Bass in Mexico I believe were imported also. You build a fishery for Fish not water. If I had the opportunity to do it myself, you can sure bet your bottom dollar I'm gonna try to grow them as big as I can.

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Old 02-03-05, 08:25 PM   #4
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Us northerners may have to convert a heated in ground pool over to the next world record bass habitat. : P N J
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Old 02-03-05, 08:27 PM   #5
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Default Re: world record bass....artificial?

I think to qualify for a world record it has to be a lake not a pond, that goes for most states as well i believe.
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Old 02-03-05, 08:56 PM   #6
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Man. It must be a long winter.
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Old 02-03-05, 09:51 PM   #7
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Default Re: world record bass....artificial?

I understand what you're saying, but hey, it's still a bass living in the wild.
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I think to qualify for a world record it has to be a lake not a pond, that goes for most states as well i believe.
Not sure about this. I don't even know where the line gets drawn as to what's a lake and what's a pond. This statement from the IGFA rules implies that any body of water would count.

"No applications will be accepted for fish caught in hatchery waters or sanctuaries. The catch must not be at variance with any laws or regulations governing the species or the waters in which it was caught."
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Old 02-03-05, 10:54 PM   #8
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sure is cajun.. :-/
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Old 02-04-05, 07:13 PM   #9
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I like the idea. you get your own bass lake and no one knows about it then you come out of their with a world record bass.
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Old 02-05-05, 12:53 AM   #10
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Default Re: world record bass....artificial?

The best part of it all was that Perry was'nt trying to set a world record...He was like me,just bass fishin'.


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Old 02-05-05, 02:38 AM   #11
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Default Re: world record bass....artificial?

Maybe they should pump them up with steroids. I find it hard to accept Barry Bonds homerun record because of his supposed steroid use. But still it is a record. I guess it is all how you feel.
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Old 02-05-05, 02:47 AM   #12
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Default Re: world record bass....artificial?

I agree with bassinDan and I've made my opinion on this matter known before. If it were as simple as a bass in nature, or a bass in an artificial impoundment I would have no objections. The fact of the matter is the trout stocking program is what is throwing everything out of screw. If people were to stock shiners every 2 weeks into Shingle creek on lake Toho, it would only be a matter of time before they were producing 20 lbers as well.
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Old 02-05-05, 02:51 PM   #13
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I love the idea....as long as it's me hooking into those hawgs! ;D
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Old 02-08-05, 02:15 AM   #14
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Default Re: world record bass....artificial?

You can argue that these fish are being raised to grow bigger by stocking trout but can't you also argue the validity of the current World Record? I mean, consider that this record wasn't in danger of any fish coming close to it until around 1984 or so. Also consider the lack of a digital scale back in the day and the 22-4, may not have been the true weight. Bob Crupi's 22-1 is likely the largest bass ever caught. The record will fall, lets just hope the USA produces it because Africa and Mexico are likely not too far behind.
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Old 02-08-05, 08:05 AM   #15
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Default Re: world record bass....artificial?

THANK YOU EarthWorm. It's good to see that I'm not the only person who questions Perry's record catch. I don't think Perry lied about it. He had nothing to gain at the time. I just don't know how accurate the scales were, or even what kind of fish it was since there are not even any pictures of it. When you consider that the state of Georgia, much less Montgomery Lake has never turned out another largemouth bass even close to the 22-4 fish that Perry is credited with, I think there are serious questions.

A few years ago, the State of Virginia went thourgh their state records and purged any that they could not verify. They kept the old weights but listed them as "Historical". I think that's where Perry's record belongs today. In a "Historical " catagory. Bob Crupi's fish is the largest VERIFIED largemouth bass ever caught. 22-1.
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Old 02-08-05, 07:08 PM   #16
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Default Re: world record bass....artificial?

now that u put it like that i question the record to. u guys make good points.
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Old 02-08-05, 09:22 PM   #17
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Default Re: world record bass....artificial?

I'm not gonna argue that there may have been some problems with that record. But if it was certified according to the standards in effect at the time, I don't see the record's removal as being warranted.

I realize that the largemouth record is the most important in all of fishing (at least to us), but there are other records that pre-date the largemouth, like Tiger Muskie, Yellow Perch, Atlantic Salmon and Brook Trout. Heck, the perch goes back to 1865. Should those records remain valid?
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Old 02-08-05, 09:26 PM   #18
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Default Re: world record bass....artificial?

22-4 is just a historical mark, no doubt about that. It could have been 22-2 or 22-6, or heck I suppose the fish could have been a carp and just misidentified as a largemouth...but it is a fact that that is the number that has been burned into the heads of millions of american anglers and that is the mark until it is broken.
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Old 02-08-05, 10:06 PM   #19
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Default Re: world record bass....artificial?

You are right about that WT. If Perry's record was ever disallowed, and I don't think it ever will be until it's broken, it would always be the "gold standard" anyway. I'm sure Crupi wouldn't agree with stripping the record and giving it to him. And while say that we can't prove Perry's record, we also can't disprove it either. (See. I can take both sides in an argument.)
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Default Re: world record bass....artificial?

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Not sure about this. I don't even know where the line gets drawn as to what's a lake and what's a pond.
If I remember right the difference between a pond and a lake is whether or not sun light penetrates the water all the way to the bottom at it's deepest point. If it does it's a pond, if not it's a lake. It doesn't have so much to do with the physical size of the body of water. I could be wrong, and then again this could be the only thing I remember from high school. ;D
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Old 02-09-05, 01:44 AM   #21
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lake1 Â* Â*( P ) Â*Pronunciation Key Â*(lk)
n.
A large inland body of fresh water or salt water.
A scenic pond, as in a park.
A large pool of liquid: a lake of spilled coffee on my desk.



pond Â* Â*( P ) Â*Pronunciation Key Â*(pnd)
n.
A still body of water smaller than a lake.
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Old 02-09-05, 02:19 AM   #22
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lake1 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lk)
n.
A large inland body of fresh water or salt water.
A scenic pond, as in a park.
A large pool of liquid: a lake of spilled coffee on my desk.



pond ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pnd)
n.
A still body of water smaller than a lake
Well that cleared it right up. ;D ;D

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Old 02-09-05, 05:48 PM   #23
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Default Re: world record bass....artificial?

Anyone know of anyother bass that was heavier than the one caught by Perry, by any other means other then by a fisherman?

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Old 02-09-05, 05:51 PM   #24
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Bob, I don't think that a bass larger than 22-4 has ever been observed other than the Perry bass. There have been rumors out of mexico for years about the natives netting larger fish, but seriously I doubt it.
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Old 02-09-05, 09:21 PM   #25
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[quote author=bassinbob link=board=MessBoards;num=1107468854;start=0#22 date=02/09/05 at 15:48:40]Anyone know of anyother bass that was heavier than the one caught by Perry, by any other means other then by a fisherman?

Bob[/quote]
A few years ago, a fisherman claimed to have caught a 24-pounder, but it was weighed on a bathroom scale, and, of course, not certified.

http://www.midwestbassmagazine.com/P...clos_Arti.html
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