Boat Heater

[CMorg]

I have a tournament in 2 weeks , on a powerplant lake. Anyway , chances are it will be cold. I bought ( only because it was way on sale ) a Mr. Buddy heater with the dual green gas tanks.

http://www.mrheater.com/product.aspx?catid=41&id=116

Long story short, would this work on my boat just to warm up the ol hands from time to time ?

[CamG]

Yep...should work good!

I have a couple Mr. Heaters in my duck blind. They do the job well!

[CMorg]

Awsome , I was hoping this would work ok. I know it wont work miracles , but if I can keep alittle warm it will help.

[Bender]

I've used one on my boat. Only problem is that you need to keep it low so there is no wind. You might also try those hand warmers that you can put in your gloves or tuck them into the sleeve band on the inside of your wrist. That keeps them out of your glove and warms up blood going to your hand a little.

[CMorg]

Someone told me that DNR will nail my b@lls to the wall with that heater in my boat ??

[nofearengineer]

Originally Posted by CMorg

Someone told me that DNR will nail my b@lls to the wall with that heater in my boat ??

Indiana Code:

IC 14-15-2-9
Gas or flammable liquids
Sec. 9. (a) This section does not apply to motor fuel or fuel used in pocket cigarette, cigar, or pipe lighters.
(b) A person may not carry in a boat that is:
(1) kept, maintained, or operated upon public water; and
(2) used to carry passengers for hire;
gas, liquefied gas, or an inflammable liquid capable of being used for cooking, heating, or lighting.
As added by P.L.1-1995, SEC.8.

http://www.in.gov/nrc/2408.htm

This site is your friend.

The critical word here is the "and".

I assume you are not carrying passengers for hire, therefore the person who said this doesn't know what they are talking about. I would still print a copy of this and carry it in my boat if I were you. The DNR guys can be jerks sometimes.

[CMorg]

You are correct NFE , and good lookin out. That site will now be added to my favorites. Thanks , I will also print this out and keep it with me.

[bassboogieman]

I'm no lawyer, but I'm not sure I agree. There is a semi-colon after the word "water" that indicates "seperation" within a sentence. In that instance, the and may just indicate there are two, but seperate restrictions. As the restrictions are identified by number, further indicates to me they may not be linked. Otherwise there would be one continuous sentence and the need to number them would not be necessary. Additionally, there is the instance of using boats for hire (2) on private water and restriction (1) specificially states public water. The second restriction may be written to protect the public when contracting services on private water, not controlled the the Fish & Boat Commission. Therefore I'm not certain that restrictions one AND two must be met to prevent the use of such an appliance onboard a boat, but that either alone is cause to prevent the usage.

Me, I would never carry an appliance using flamable fuel on a boat.

[CMorg]

heck with it , I will just put hand warmers down my pants , wait , what ??

[nofearengineer]

Trust me on this one, Boogie. I prepare contract drawings for a living. The difference between "and" and "or" is intentional here.

I've actually read discussions on the difference between "will" and "shall". Black's Law Dictionary is a great read.

Otherwise, nobody could carry a Coleman lantern on their boat for night fishing.

[CMorg]

Will and shall are used daily with the line of work I am in...

[CamG]

Originally Posted by bassboogieman

Me, I would never carry an appliance using flamable fuel on a boat.

I'm guessing you've never been in a duck boat? Thousands of duck hunters every year have heaters and cooking stoves on their boats (including me) and don't seem to have any problem.

If something did happen, well..I guess you are surrounded by water.

[CMorg]

Originally Posted by CamG

I'm guessing you've never been in a duck boat? Thousands of duck hunters every year have heaters and cooking stoves on their boats (including me) and don't seem to have any problem.

If something did happen, well..I guess you are surrounded by water.

It beaver dam sure wouldnt spread would it...

[screwballl]

I would also check on the tournament rules and regs... the state or local law may allow it, but the tournament rules may not.

[CMorg]

Just a club tourney , I know these guys could care less , so long as it doesnt give me an advantage !! Lol.

[doc]

Originally Posted by CMorg

Just a club tourney , I know these guys could care less , so long as it doesnt give me an advantage !! Lol.

being warm and confortable vs cold and miserable seems like an advantage to me

[bassboogieman]

If something did happen, well..I guess you are surrounded by water.

Can't argue that -- but it's cold water. And you have a lot of clothes on. We nearly lost a goose hunter last year that ended up in the water. Hypothermia almost claimed his life, he was extremely fortunate there was a couple fishing that day nearby, that fired up the big motor on their bass boat (electric only lake, but they were not cited ) got to him as he was going under and got him to shore, along with making the 911 call for assistance. He was also fortunate that sound (screaming) carries well over water as he was hunting alone, another risk.

What other's choose to do, isn't really a concern to me - if they want to take risks who am I to say "don't do it"? But, I would not put a flamable fuel heater in my boat for any reason - there are easier less dangerous methods to keep warm that do not involve flamable fuel. And to use one in a boat with another, puts them at risk also - one they may not perceive as life threatening. I always look for "what could go wrong" and eliminate it if possible, rather than think "that can't happen to me". Eventually, if you take enough risks - it will.

I have enough worry to about with the 52 gallons of fuel I'm sitting on. A fire on board with 50 gallons of gas in the fuel tank - no way I want to even think about that happening. Different boats, carry different situations and risks. Small boats with portable gas tank - less risk of a big fire, but going overboard to avoid a fire in cold water is not a good option either.

Otherwise, nobody could carry a Coleman lantern on their boat for night fishing.

I wouldn't do that either - I'd use battery power. That is IF I fished at night, and we've already had that conversation.

[nofearengineer]

Boogie, if you'd stop fishing by candlelight, and go with something more modern, you might have better luck!!!

[bassboogieman]

Hey, candlelight worked for Abe Lincoln.
And I've heard a few comments about your luck, so I'd be careful throwing snow......
Yeah, snow - can't get to the stones...............

[screwballl]

light is light, but if you want heat with it, need some sort of fire...

[bassboogieman]

Well as Mr Modern could tell you there is always infrared...........

[bassfisher]

You could use an flood light, they throw a ton of heat out.

[nofearengineer]

You could always install a cigarette lighter and use electric gloves. Mind tripping over the cord though.

[bassfisher]

Originally Posted by nofearengineer

You could always install a cigarette lighter and use electric gloves. Mind tripping over the cord though.

I have two in the Avalanche under edge of the seat one on both sides, and one in the Magna on the dash. We use them for blacklights and spot light for night fishing.

[Lvitch]

Does any one make a 12V electric heater?

Those hand warmers are awesome as well, they usually stay warm all day. Those have made my day bearable many times. They have big ones now too that stick to your shirt to keep your chest warm, as well as ones for your socks.