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Old 11-11-04, 03:39 AM   #1
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Default Missing strikes?

Hi

Went fishing last night, caught 2 small ones.

Tried a superfluke first, missed 2 strikes...
Then an original Rapala floater, caught 1 (the rapala's first, it was very happy ;D), missed 1 (Man bass are quick, just before i lifted the rapala from the water one came flying from the side and took it, exciting to see)
Then a deadringer worm, caught 1, missed 1 strike.

My questions:

1. I read in some previous posts people complaining about missing strikes using a super fluke. Why do they miss strikes easily (assuming nothing wrong with the rigging)?

2. Is there something like an acceptable strike/miss ratio to indicate that I'm not doing something wrong. e.g. using a super fluke its ok to miss 1 out of 10, and a spinner bait maybe 1 in 20? Which bait has the best ratio (to use when the bass take anything you throw at them?)

3. Obviously the size of the fish should make a difference? Missing more strikes from small fish?

4. What do you guys think of the Mepps Black Fury spinner (is this classified as a spinnerbait?). My friend used that for a little while and outfished me... Will it only work for small bass?

Enough for one day... and thx for all the help


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Old 11-11-04, 05:10 AM   #2
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Default Re: Missing strikes?

Tinusp,

The reason that it's easier to miss a fish on a fluke is the fact that the fluke is so bulky. Â*What I mean is it's alot of plastic Â*for the hook to come through. Â* Also are you using hooks that look like this?



The extra-wide gap will make for easier and better hooksets.

Oh and the acceptable stike to miss ratio is 0 misses for however many strikes ;D Â*You're gonna miss some it just happens. Â*Whats important is why did you miss them? Â*You obviously realise that already cuz you're asking questions.

As far as the Mepps spinner. Â*I've never used the one you were asking about. Â* I'm guessing that it's an inline spinner. Â*Aw heck I just looked one up. Â*Is this it??



Point is they worked for your buddy so they must be alright. Â* You asked if they only worked on small fish. Â*Well no big ones will eat it too. Â*If it's the smaller inline then you are more likely to catch more smaller ones than big ones because the little fish are easier to catch.

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Old 11-11-04, 05:22 AM   #3
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Default Re: Missing strikes?

Used the normal worm hooks. The angle at the eye seems to be different, will get the right ones.

And yes thats the spinner, just without the feathers.

What does the inline mean in "inline spinner"?
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Old 11-11-04, 05:35 AM   #4
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Default Re: Missing strikes?

See the blades on this spinnerbait



They are offset to the bait body.



This one the blades are in-line with the bait body. Get it
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Old 11-11-04, 06:03 AM   #5
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Default Re: Missing strikes?

Right thx

So the top one is called an offset spinnerbait?

On the top spinnerbait does the fish attack the blades, body or both?
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Old 11-11-04, 08:52 AM   #6
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Default Re: Missing strikes?

Dang IL, you're pretty savvy with the pics and all

Also may want to make sure you hook is large enough for the flukes. For superflukes I always use a 5/0 wide gap hook. Another thing I was taught along time ago is that when shiner fishing, the bass will grab the shiner, and then turn it in it's mouth before swallowing it. Therefor it take a second or two for the hook to get into the best position for a hookset. Now if it works for shiner, perhaps it could work for flukes also I highly recommend a superline of some kind when fluke fishing. It has no stretch, which makes a lot of difference trying to get through bulky plastics like flukes and crawbugs.

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Old 11-11-04, 09:22 AM   #7
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Default Re: Missing strikes?

It's called either an offset spinnerbait, or more commonly, a "safety pin" spinnerbait. Easy to see where that name comes from.

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Old 11-11-04, 09:56 AM   #8
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Default Re: Missing strikes?

Fluke Hook....another option is to use a 4/0 Round Bend Worm Hook (offset shank near the eye) by Gamakatsu. This is also a hook that offers a wide gap and are available through BassPro Shops.
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Old 11-11-04, 11:30 AM   #9
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Default Re: Missing strikes?

tinusp-the top pic is a spinnerbait where your Mepps is an in-line spinner.

IL is correct about the bulk of the fluke being a factor, but so is the rod you are using. I use a heavy action rod for flukes because it has less give to it and is stiff enough to get a good hookset.
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Old 11-11-04, 07:43 PM   #10
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Default Re: Missing strikes?

i have used a mepps aglia-that is the one with out feathers-a size 2 is a tough bait to beat i have caught many bass in the 3-4 pound range with these spinner's.all though they tend to hang up alot on weeds as a spinner bait wont.

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