Line and suspending baits

bassinbob · 01-25-06, 06:13 PM

Would flourocarbon affect the suspending action of a jerkbait? I want to start using suspending lures and other crankbaits more this year. I know flourocarbon sinks but it doesn't stretch like mono does. What type of line do you mostly use for jerkbaits and crankbaits? Also since flourocarbon sinks would a larger diameter affect the depth in any way for a deep crankbait?, smaller diameter=deeper depth of the lure.

Bob

JB · 01-25-06, 06:35 PM

I use 14lb test mono for my jerkbaits bob and am happy with trilene, but I am sure you can find a flourocarbon that will work for you.

Fish On · 01-25-06, 06:39 PM

If you are looking for really good flurocarbon check out p line. That line is amazing. It makes you cast so much further and no knots.

basser087 · 01-25-06, 07:51 PM

Pline isn't all it's made out to be. Pline is horrible with breaks and can hardly handle small fish and it twists up all of the time. With copolymer lines on the market now you have to fish them. Have you guys checked out the new Gamma line? Their 12 lb line breaks at 20 lbs of pressure but has 12 lb diameter, looks and feels like monofilament. You can go with their 8 lb line and get your crankbaits to dive to their max depth and it takes 15 lbs of pressure to break the line. Normally line breaks at the lb test mark and usually with this line your knot will break before your line would so I reccomend to tie a double polymer knot for increased strength.

Rebbasser · 01-25-06, 07:55 PM

I'm with JB on this one-I use green Trilene. 12 lb for suspending jerkbaits and lipless crankbaits, 10 lb for lipped crankbaits.

I don't the type of line makes as much difference as the line diameter.

basser087 · 01-25-06, 07:58 PM

I agree with you.

Rodman_Rob · 01-25-06, 08:27 PM

fluro may sink, but its not going to affect the suspending action. When it sinks its not dropping to the bottom, its just falling under the surface of the water making it harder to fish soft plastics since you can't see the line, but makes up for it slightly in the sensitivity department making it easier to feel bites.

JB · 01-25-06, 08:34 PM

REb,
I'll tell ya what, as much as I like to jerk the rattling rogue all day, that fluke sure is a easier bait to throw once your arm gets glowing red from over use! lol

WIbassfisherman · 01-25-06, 08:57 PM

Line diameter is going to affect running depth on any crank (suspending, rat-L-trap, or crankbait). Flurocarbon has little to no stretch so you'll have increased sensitivity, HOWEVER, you don't want to be rippin-lips on any hook set. Take this into consideration when selecting your rod action. I think you'll be fine with flurocarbon if you use a medium action rod. You may cast farther than using mono on a medium heavy rod. Medium action with mono doesn't keep you in contact with your bait as well IMO and you're not going to get the action you want from such a long ways away. You'll lose that erratic action you're looking for.

Personally, and specifically with a Rougue I've used 10lb mono on a med-hvy rod (baitcast setup) and I've used 8lb flurocarbon on a med-action rod (spinning). Matter of preference, confidence, and success.

zooker · 01-26-06, 05:48 AM

i use 12 pound ande . most jerk bait fishing you are not looking to get them deep 5-8 foot normally. just make sure there is some kind of snap on the bait. a coast lock or cross lock you want a jerk bait to move around a bit. adding to the action. jerk bait fish almost always hit the bait with there foot on the gas..

zooker

Patrick Krueger, Jr. · 01-26-06, 08:12 AM

I remember KVD on Bassmaster University saying he only uses fluorocarbon for suspending jerkbaits. Of course, it was his Wild Shiner he designed with Strike King he was using. I think his reasoning was to get it deeper and with long casts, the little stretching still makes it slash around all crazy when it's 100 ft. away.

bassintom · 01-26-06, 09:36 AM

i only use flouro when i'm worming in ultra clear water...other than that it's trilene XL or XT...or powerpro.depending on the situation i'm in.

Wishing2BFishing · 01-26-06, 10:38 AM

Co-polymer all the way. I use one brand. McCoy's Mean Green. 10 lb. test for my spinning gear and 12 1b. on my baitcaster. This stuff is super strong and doesn't have much memory. It will work on spinning or baitcasting gear. The price is reasonable (roughly the same as Trilene, Stren, ect.).

bassnman30 · 01-26-06, 03:49 PM

I strickly use fouro. for most of my baits. Excluding top water and spinnerbaits or Rat-l-trap "type" baits (these are reaction baits). I've had the best success with 10 lb test. It's strong enough to handle big fish and it has basically no stretch and the fish really can't see this type line. Ideal in clear water.

Rebbasser · 01-27-06, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB

REb,
I'll tell ya what, as much as I like to jerk the rattling rogue all day, that fluke sure is a easier bait to throw once your arm gets glowing red from over use! lol

It sure is!

01-25-06, 06:13 PM	#1
bassinbob BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Pitts. Pa. Posts: 3,801	Line and suspending baits Would flourocarbon affect the suspending action of a jerkbait? I want to start using suspending lures and other crankbaits more this year. I know flourocarbon sinks but it doesn't stretch like mono does. What type of line do you mostly use for jerkbaits and crankbaits? Also since flourocarbon sinks would a larger diameter affect the depth in any way for a deep crankbait?, smaller diameter=deeper depth of the lure. Bob __________________ you can have my fishin rod when ya take it from my cold dead hands

01-25-06, 06:39 PM	#3
Fish On BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hauppauge, NY Posts: 368	If you are looking for really good flurocarbon check out p line. That line is amazing. It makes you cast so much further and no knots. __________________ David Scott

01-25-06, 07:55 PM	#5
Rebbasser BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 10,141	I'm with JB on this one-I use green Trilene. 12 lb for suspending jerkbaits and lipless crankbaits, 10 lb for lipped crankbaits. I don't the type of line makes as much difference as the line diameter. __________________ It's happened to the best of them: John 21:3

01-25-06, 08:27 PM	#7
Rodman_Rob BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ocala, FL. 1/2 hour southwest of Rodman Posts: 1,702	fluro may sink, but its not going to affect the suspending action. When it sinks its not dropping to the bottom, its just falling under the surface of the water making it harder to fish soft plastics since you can't see the line, but makes up for it slightly in the sensitivity department making it easier to feel bites. __________________ Lizardsrule may not be able to drive a boat, but he can sure put you on the fish!

01-26-06, 05:48 AM	#10
zooker BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: denton nc Posts: 13,441	i use 12 pound ande . most jerk bait fishing you are not looking to get them deep 5-8 foot normally. just make sure there is some kind of snap on the bait. a coast lock or cross lock you want a jerk bait to move around a bit. adding to the action. jerk bait fish almost always hit the bait with there foot on the gas.. zooker __________________ the godfather.. aml in remission since 7-20-09

01-25-06, 06:35 PM	#2
JB BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,655	I use 14lb test mono for my jerkbaits bob and am happy with trilene, but I am sure you can find a flourocarbon that will work for you.

01-25-06, 07:51 PM	#4
basser087 BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Niles, Mi Posts: 75	Pline isn't all it's made out to be. Pline is horrible with breaks and can hardly handle small fish and it twists up all of the time. With copolymer lines on the market now you have to fish them. Have you guys checked out the new Gamma line? Their 12 lb line breaks at 20 lbs of pressure but has 12 lb diameter, looks and feels like monofilament. You can go with their 8 lb line and get your crankbaits to dive to their max depth and it takes 15 lbs of pressure to break the line. Normally line breaks at the lb test mark and usually with this line your knot will break before your line would so I reccomend to tie a double polymer knot for increased strength.

01-25-06, 07:58 PM	#6
basser087 BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Niles, Mi Posts: 75	I agree with you.

01-25-06, 08:34 PM	#8
JB BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,655	REb, I'll tell ya what, as much as I like to jerk the rattling rogue all day, that fluke sure is a easier bait to throw once your arm gets glowing red from over use! lol

01-25-06, 08:57 PM	#9
WIbassfisherman BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hartland, Wisconsin Posts: 151	Line diameter is going to affect running depth on any crank (suspending, rat-L-trap, or crankbait). Flurocarbon has little to no stretch so you'll have increased sensitivity, HOWEVER, you don't want to be rippin-lips on any hook set. Take this into consideration when selecting your rod action. I think you'll be fine with flurocarbon if you use a medium action rod. You may cast farther than using mono on a medium heavy rod. Medium action with mono doesn't keep you in contact with your bait as well IMO and you're not going to get the action you want from such a long ways away. You'll lose that erratic action you're looking for. Personally, and specifically with a Rougue I've used 10lb mono on a med-hvy rod (baitcast setup) and I've used 8lb flurocarbon on a med-action rod (spinning). Matter of preference, confidence, and success.

01-26-06, 08:12 AM	#11
Patrick Krueger, Jr. BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kenosha, WI Posts: 567	I remember KVD on Bassmaster University saying he only uses fluorocarbon for suspending jerkbaits. Of course, it was his Wild Shiner he designed with Strike King he was using. I think his reasoning was to get it deeper and with long casts, the little stretching still makes it slash around all crazy when it's 100 ft. away. __________________ The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. - John Buchan

01-26-06, 09:36 AM	#12
bassintom BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: washington(northwest) N.J. Posts: 3,958	i only use flouro when i'm worming in ultra clear water...other than that it's trilene XL or XT...or powerpro.depending on the situation i'm in. __________________ A man's gotta believe in something...I believe I'll go fishing.

01-26-06, 10:38 AM	#13
Wishing2BFishing BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Morgantown, Pa Posts: 1,254	Co-polymer all the way. I use one brand. McCoy's Mean Green. 10 lb. test for my spinning gear and 12 1b. on my baitcaster. This stuff is super strong and doesn't have much memory. It will work on spinning or baitcasting gear. The price is reasonable (roughly the same as Trilene, Stren, ect.).

01-26-06, 03:49 PM	#14
bassnman30 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lexington,NC-Worlds best BBQ. Posts: 1,945	I strickly use fouro. for most of my baits. Excluding top water and spinnerbaits or Rat-l-trap "type" baits (these are reaction baits). I've had the best success with 10 lb test. It's strong enough to handle big fish and it has basically no stretch and the fish really can't see this type line. Ideal in clear water. __________________ Lexington,NC.

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