overrated line

[skeeter944]

what is yalls opinion on using line that is 50lb on a rod rated for only 25lb? just curios if it really does over stress the rod,causing more wear on it. thanks!

[WTL]

I don't pay attention to the rod line ratings myself. The only stress I think you could be talking about is on the blank, but as long as you have the drag set right and don't go bending the rod like a pretzel you shouldnt have a problem.

[bassboogieman]

I think it depends on the rod. You could probably put wire on an Ugly Stick and not hurt it. At the other end of the spectrum, the extremely light weight, sensitive and EXPENSIVE premium rods, I think are another story. They are more fragile, their very light weight is from thinner blank walls, and graphite is brittle by nature. I've seen numerous posts concerning these expensive rods breaking on the hook-set, and I myself wonder about that. I have several (brand isn't important for this discussion) high-end rods, but I do not exceed line ratings for those rods as a matter of personal preference, and haven't any breakage issues. Setting drag IS important, it can compensate for heavy braid, but if you tighten down the drag, using no stretch braid, on one of the those premium rods, and use a hook-set meant to cross the fish's eyes - I think it does over stress the blank with the potential to damage it.

[ROBZILLA]

I use it on my ugly sticks because I know it can handle it, but hey it really don't matter too much it all depends on how you fight the fish right! You pulling like a maniac wont help your rod much, you see pros on TV and they are pulling hard as they can to get the fish in the boat and get the lure back out as fast as they can. thats how they win, but they also get free rods too. So it all depends on how your pulling the fish in, I think we all use over rated line cause if fish wraps up we want to be able to pull him out of there. (only the odd time)

[dodgeguy]

I GO BY THE LINE DIAMETER.IN OTHER WORDS 12 LB /50 LB SUFIX BRAID WOULD BE USED WHERE 12 LB MONO WOULD.OF COURSE IF YOU PUT 50 LBS OF PRESSURE ON YOUR ROD IT'S GOING TO EXPLODE!!!oops,i didn't realize my caps lock was on.anyway the reason for using thicker braid is to prevent line digging in on the spool.also when using lures like spinnerbaits the thicker line let's it ride in the water column where it would with a mono line.i use sufix braid 12/50 on spinning and 16/65 on my baitcasters.

[Vabass22]

Personally, where I fish, I don't beleive it is necessary to fish with braid, but, I would not overdo it, like some people put 80# braid, on a G-Loomis. I don't understand why they use 80, and not 50, because 50# will get you through mostanything. jmo. I use 8 lb gamma line on spinning, and some 10lb cahun or big game, and 12lb big game on my baitcaster, as I see no reason for braid in open water fishing.

[dodgeguy]

the main reason i use braid is sensitivity.the second reason is castability.the third reason is it doesn't twist up and spool off on a spinning reel.if i was going to use a mono i would use cajun red cast.i could see using 80 lb test braid for spinnerbaits and rattletraps to help keep them up over weedbeds and not get hung up in grass.i can also understand 80 lb test used in heavy weed matts on a baitcaster. the thicker braid prevents the line from digging in on the spool.

[Vabass22]

Does braid really not tangle as much? Say it ain't so. Cause I'm looking for line that doesn't tangle as much.

[dodgeguy]

the only thing it does that i hate is it is so limp it tip wraps sometimes if you throw slack in it like when you are snagged and your lure pops loose all of a sudden..then again every line has it's issues.you know how mono can blow off a spinning reel spool?braid will never do that.but you can still throw loops in it if you don't close your bail by hand and reel over loose line.

[Vabass22]

So I should close my bail by hand?
Sorry for hijacking this thread guys! Now get back on topic!

[ILfishinman]

yea it does wrap around the tip more than mono but not a big deal

[ILfishinman]

i close my bail by winding and it doesnt effect anything

[dodgeguy]

always!!!and make sure you lift the rod tip to take the slack out.this prevents those line loops that turn into spinning reel backlashes.you know the kind that pile up in front of the first guide and make you say "what the ----".

[Vabass22]

Yeah, that has happened many time to me, thanks for the great tip!

[dodgeguy]

No Problem.

[KenDammit]

closing your bail by hand also makes it a little easier on your reel, in my opinion. Its a habit for me since I've never done it any other way and I just do it like second nature.

Using line thats rated over what your rod is supportive of CAN be disasterous but its not a clear cut thing. Most rods could handle even the strongest mono you'd ever need, and most braids have a very small diameter for strength...so its not a terribly big issue. What you have to be careful of when using stronger lines is the pressure you put on the rod when you get snagged or try to hoss up 30lbs of weight or something like that.

[Fishie1]

I don't think set ups work as good with overated line but they will be all right....just don't go putting 20lb on a ultralight...lol jk.

[Captmikestarrett]

With braid and spinning reels you should always use your spare hand to close bail and feather line out. This prevents loops and assures proper laydown of line on reel. The spare hand technique is for accuracy and distance. You overhead cast when ever possible and use the spare hand to control distance. Flip bail over just as lure hits water. If the cast is straight where you point it then the spare hand will control distance just like a baitcaster. This gives you remarkable accuracy and very little slack line when lure hits water. How many times has a plug hit the water only to be smashed by a fish and you are trying to get that darn bail closed. Oh and there is twenty feet of line still floating down from that sky high cast. Feather the line on its way out and the problem is solved.

Now back to topic. Put as heavy a line as your reel will handle cleanly. Do not worry about the rod. If you snag up the drag will protect the rod. Always tighten line on a snag and point right at it extend arms grab spool to keep from spinning drag and pull back gently... 9 out 10 times the lures comes back. Maybe minus a hook or bent straight but it comes back.

Capt Mike

[dodgeguy]

when i get snagged i wrap the braid around a dowel and pull.

[Vabass22]

Thats, what I do with mono, except with my hand. Not stupid enough to do it with braid though. I'll be buying some calcutta braid in a couple of months, and I will remember a dowel in the tackle box.

[Captmikestarrett]

Originally Posted by dodgeguy

when i get snagged i wrap the braid around a dowel and pull.

Is this on a baitcaster?

Capt Mike