Need some advice on a possible purchase

fish2 · 03-13-11, 08:12 PM

looking at buying a bass boat. Came across a 2008 Bass Tracker Nitro 640. It is 16 ft long and has a 2009 50 horse Merc motor(ME50ELPTO). comes with a motor guide pro series 46 trolling motor with lowarance depth finders. 20 gal fuel cell. Guy states that it was his dad's and his dad passed away. Seller states it has never left the trailer or been in the water. Does this sound like a too good offer.
also what is it worth? All help would be useful thanks guys.

Zach
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carolina-rig-01 · 03-13-11, 09:13 PM

Without knowing the price of it, I can't say whether or not it sounds too good to be true. But the easiest way to see if his story checks out is to get it to a mechanic who can hook it up to a computer and see how many hours are on it (I assume they are able to do this with smaller outboards). This information will not only let you know if it has been on the water but if it turns out the guy is lying then you will know what kind of RPM's, water pressure, water temp and all other conditions the motor has been through. Of course a compression check and a good once over by a mechanic is advised anyways. I would just tell the guy that you want to take it to a Mercury mechanic of your choice and if it checks out then you will pay the bill and if it doesn't then he pays the bill. You should get a good idea from his reaction if he is telling the truth or not.

lilmule · 03-13-11, 09:24 PM

As an example of what its worth a 2008 in pristine shape just sold at auction in Georgia for 7k,it was however eq with the highest hp its rating could handle a 90 hp merc.
That with a 50 was pretty much the entry pkg and cost like 1500-2000 less than the upgrade 90 hp did.Assuming it would bring same less its about 4500-5500 value on an auction and if purchased would have to treat like a new motor with a break in period.
Something is worth what one can actually get out of it,not what bluebook price is,times are tuff its a buyers world.Generally those with less hp are harder to sell as dont move very fast,and those that upgraded when purchased get fair value.
For casual fishing its a decent boat for lake erie or wanting to run over a few miles no,with a 90 hp however one could run say 20 miles either direction.

sthnchm · 03-14-11, 12:40 AM

i have inquired about the same boat. wondering if its a scam. where did you see it? It was on Craigslist in Bessemer, Ala. here. We should compare notes to check this guys story.

fish2 · 03-14-11, 03:32 PM

carolina he has it listed at 2900 bucks
and sthnchm he told me he lives in Boston

CMorg · 03-14-11, 03:41 PM

Scam , there are hundereds of scams on Craigslist. I intentionally call them out and they usually respond with what appears to be a very bad english vocabulary ( ie , words misspelled , not in the right order ) I am assuming this is an overseas type scammer.

fish2 · 03-14-11, 03:49 PM

CMorg I agree, I thought it was a to good to be true deal. If anyone knows where I can get my hands on a mid 1990s to a early 2000s Bass Tracker for a good price let me know. I am itching to get my own boat.

sthnchm · 03-14-11, 04:38 PM

fish2, he told me he was in Boston as well and that his dad had passed away. I might email him back and tell him I have family up there and they want to come by and look at it. See what he says.

fish2 · 03-15-11, 11:05 AM

Let me know what he says

sthnchm · 03-15-11, 05:50 PM

Ok here is the latest. I told him I would have someone come by and look at the boat. He proceeded to tell me his brother in law had a sewing machine company which used a freight service and he would ship it to me. He said he had a couple of other guys looking at it but one had to get a loan and the other only had 2200.00. I emailed him back and said I didn't need it shipped, I would come get it and pay him for it when I saw it and picked it up. His next email proceeded to tell me that he had a family and was not a scumbag and that if I wanted it, he would give me the buy it now link on Ebay. I would pay for the boat, he would have it shipped, I would have 5 days to decide if I wanted it or not while Ebay held the money. If I didn't want it, he would have it picked up and my money would be returned. LOL, amazing!

bamabassman · 03-15-11, 05:52 PM

scam,scam...........SCAM!!!! report that dude, better yet.have your someone go by and "pay a visit".

fish2 · 03-15-11, 08:20 PM

Knew it why can't people be honest

CMorg · 03-15-11, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sthnchm

Ok here is the latest. I told him I would have someone come by and look at the boat. He proceeded to tell me his brother in law had a sewing machine company which used a freight service and he would ship it to me. He said he had a couple of other guys looking at it but one had to get a loan and the other only had 2200.00. I emailed him back and said I didn't need it shipped, I would come get it and pay him for it when I saw it and picked it up. His next email proceeded to tell me that he had a family and was not a scumbag and that if I wanted it, he would give me the buy it now link on Ebay. I would pay for the boat, he would have it shipped, I would have 5 days to decide if I wanted it or not while Ebay held the money. If I didn't want it, he would have it picked up and my money would be returned. LOL, amazing!

Lol , told you it was a scam. Read this old post , and make sure to scroll down to my responce. I find the same thing with boats/cars/motorcycles...

CMorg · 03-15-11, 08:22 PM

Forgot the link , sorry.

http://www.bassfishin.com/bassfishin...ad.php?t=26053

sthnchm · 03-15-11, 09:08 PM

Cmorg, you were right. it is scam. if it werent so sad, it would be funny how this guy has gone in circles. who do i need to report him to? im gonna tell him one more time that i have cash, i want it, and will come get it. i want to see how he will try and worm out of that.

fish2 · 03-17-11, 09:02 PM

fill us in on what he says

balla13 · 05-15-11, 12:22 PM

What was the guys email. There is one on craigslist in holdrege nebraska.

jasonfish320 · 05-17-11, 08:09 AM

I would toy with him for a bit. Atleast it will keep him occupied so he doesn't scam someone else. I would tell him that you are from the Amish country and buying this as a gift and therefore can only pay cash, ask him to meet you in some random location and you will exchange the cash...and never show up...or better yet (I've done this) tell him you will send it via Western Union, and ask him where it is a convenient location when he emails you back that it didn't arrive tell him that you sent it to another location (a few miles from the original) hahaha..scam a scammer, why not? The best one I have seen so far is a guy who actually convinced a scammer to get some ridiculous tattoo, the guy who was getting scammed claimed to the would be scammer that he could not exchange money with anyone who was not part of his religion and to become a member you had to get this tatto...it was some ridiculously stupid tattoo that he just came up with on the spot..now that is genius!

03-13-11, 08:12 PM	#1
fish2 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bryan Ohio Posts: 141	Need some advice on a possible purchase looking at buying a bass boat. Came across a 2008 Bass Tracker Nitro 640. It is 16 ft long and has a 2009 50 horse Merc motor(ME50ELPTO). comes with a motor guide pro series 46 trolling motor with lowarance depth finders. 20 gal fuel cell. Guy states that it was his dad's and his dad passed away. Seller states it has never left the trailer or been in the water. Does this sound like a too good offer. also what is it worth? All help would be useful thanks guys. Zach <>< __________________ fish2 <><

03-13-11, 09:24 PM	#3
lilmule BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Buchanan,Tn Posts: 2,685	As an example of what its worth a 2008 in pristine shape just sold at auction in Georgia for 7k,it was however eq with the highest hp its rating could handle a 90 hp merc. That with a 50 was pretty much the entry pkg and cost like 1500-2000 less than the upgrade 90 hp did.Assuming it would bring same less its about 4500-5500 value on an auction and if purchased would have to treat like a new motor with a break in period. Something is worth what one can actually get out of it,not what bluebook price is,times are tuff its a buyers world.Generally those with less hp are harder to sell as dont move very fast,and those that upgraded when purchased get fair value. For casual fishing its a decent boat for lake erie or wanting to run over a few miles no,with a 90 hp however one could run say 20 miles either direction. Last edited by lilmule; 03-13-11 at 09:33 PM.

03-14-11, 12:40 AM	#4
sthnchm BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4	i have inquired about the same boat. wondering if its a scam. where did you see it? It was on Craigslist in Bessemer, Ala. here. We should compare notes to check this guys story. Last edited by sthnchm; 03-14-11 at 12:48 AM.

03-14-11, 03:32 PM	#5
fish2 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bryan Ohio Posts: 141	carolina he has it listed at 2900 bucks and sthnchm he told me he lives in Boston __________________ fish2 <><

03-14-11, 03:49 PM	#7
fish2 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bryan Ohio Posts: 141	CMorg I agree, I thought it was a to good to be true deal. If anyone knows where I can get my hands on a mid 1990s to a early 2000s Bass Tracker for a good price let me know. I am itching to get my own boat. __________________ fish2 <><

03-13-11, 09:13 PM	#2
carolina-rig-01 BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Webb City, MO Posts: 6,387	Without knowing the price of it, I can't say whether or not it sounds too good to be true. But the easiest way to see if his story checks out is to get it to a mechanic who can hook it up to a computer and see how many hours are on it (I assume they are able to do this with smaller outboards). This information will not only let you know if it has been on the water but if it turns out the guy is lying then you will know what kind of RPM's, water pressure, water temp and all other conditions the motor has been through. Of course a compression check and a good once over by a mechanic is advised anyways. I would just tell the guy that you want to take it to a Mercury mechanic of your choice and if it checks out then you will pay the bill and if it doesn't then he pays the bill. You should get a good idea from his reaction if he is telling the truth or not.

03-14-11, 03:41 PM	#6
CMorg BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Southern , IN Posts: 1,832	Scam , there are hundereds of scams on Craigslist. I intentionally call them out and they usually respond with what appears to be a very bad english vocabulary ( ie , words misspelled , not in the right order ) I am assuming this is an overseas type scammer.

03-14-11, 04:38 PM	#8
sthnchm BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4	fish2, he told me he was in Boston as well and that his dad had passed away. I might email him back and tell him I have family up there and they want to come by and look at it. See what he says.

03-15-11, 11:05 AM	#9
fish2 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bryan Ohio Posts: 141	Let me know what he says __________________ fish2 <><

03-15-11, 05:50 PM	#10
sthnchm BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4	Ok here is the latest. I told him I would have someone come by and look at the boat. He proceeded to tell me his brother in law had a sewing machine company which used a freight service and he would ship it to me. He said he had a couple of other guys looking at it but one had to get a loan and the other only had 2200.00. I emailed him back and said I didn't need it shipped, I would come get it and pay him for it when I saw it and picked it up. His next email proceeded to tell me that he had a family and was not a scumbag and that if I wanted it, he would give me the buy it now link on Ebay. I would pay for the boat, he would have it shipped, I would have 5 days to decide if I wanted it or not while Ebay held the money. If I didn't want it, he would have it picked up and my money would be returned. LOL, amazing!

03-15-11, 05:52 PM	#11
bamabassman BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: cedar bluff, alabama Posts: 15,292	scam,scam...........SCAM!!!! report that dude, better yet.have your someone go by and "pay a visit". __________________ so many lures, so little time.

03-15-11, 08:20 PM	#12
fish2 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bryan Ohio Posts: 141	Knew it why can't people be honest __________________ fish2 <><

03-15-11, 08:22 PM	#14
CMorg BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Southern , IN Posts: 1,832	Forgot the link , sorry. http://www.bassfishin.com/bassfishin...ad.php?t=26053

03-15-11, 09:08 PM	#15
sthnchm BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4	Cmorg, you were right. it is scam. if it werent so sad, it would be funny how this guy has gone in circles. who do i need to report him to? im gonna tell him one more time that i have cash, i want it, and will come get it. i want to see how he will try and worm out of that.

03-17-11, 09:02 PM	#16
fish2 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bryan Ohio Posts: 141	fill us in on what he says __________________ fish2 <><

05-15-11, 12:22 PM	#17
balla13 BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1	What was the guys email. There is one on craigslist in holdrege nebraska.

05-17-11, 08:09 AM	#18
jasonfish320 BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: MAINEIAC Posts: 585	I would toy with him for a bit. Atleast it will keep him occupied so he doesn't scam someone else. I would tell him that you are from the Amish country and buying this as a gift and therefore can only pay cash, ask him to meet you in some random location and you will exchange the cash...and never show up...or better yet (I've done this) tell him you will send it via Western Union, and ask him where it is a convenient location when he emails you back that it didn't arrive tell him that you sent it to another location (a few miles from the original) hahaha..scam a scammer, why not? The best one I have seen so far is a guy who actually convinced a scammer to get some ridiculous tattoo, the guy who was getting scammed claimed to the would be scammer that he could not exchange money with anyone who was not part of his religion and to become a member you had to get this tatto...it was some ridiculously stupid tattoo that he just came up with on the spot..now that is genius! __________________ "If at first you don't succeed; have another beer"

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