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Old 08-10-06, 07:59 PM   #26
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Great little combo, cheap too. That shimano looks about like a stradic, but 100+ bucks cheaper. You picked a winner IMO.
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Old 08-10-06, 08:03 PM   #27
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Thanks, I was more curios if the reel was any good, I have the same exact rod but for my biatcaster( i posted a link to that combo closer to the bigining of the thread) I really like the rod thats why I chose to get another one.

Ive always liked Shimano spinning reels. And I really like Diawa Baitcasters
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Old 08-10-06, 08:08 PM   #28
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thats because even i know better than rigging a crankbait on power pro.. i take it you have never fished a whole lot of under hanging brush..

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OK, I have no idea what this means. Guess I'm a dummy LOL. I would never FLIP a crankbait, and I don't even do it very often. When "Pitching" I agree with you. I usually will skip weightless plastics under the "Over" Hanging brush, or pitch under it, because honestly I dislike Flipping Perhaps we aren't talking about the same technique here. Flipping to me is when you have approx you rod length of line hanging down from the rod tip. Then you grab the line, close to the reel, and pull the bait up towards the tip, with your hand and arm. You then swing out the rod tip towards target, and let the line out by hand. The reel is never used, unless of course you need to fight the hawg after he takes out a bunch of line off of the drag. This is strictly a rod, motion technique. However I have been wrong before Any enlightenment would be appreciated. Not trying to raise your dander up.

http://www.bassresource.com/fish/flip&pitch.html

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Old 08-10-06, 08:26 PM   #29
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the way i flip if i want to reach just a slightly farther distance is let line out about the length of the rod(7'6")then pull off another length whatever i need to reach the target.i use a pendulum type flip.when the bait hits the water i pull off line to allow it to sink straight down.
this is where the reel comes in.i use either a megaforce or tri force Z with the flippin switch loaded with 50 or 65 lb PP.
IMO only,in certain cases the reel is more important than the rod..in some cases i don't think the rod is that important.
examples:flippin and pitchin...reel is more important
jigs and cranks...rod is more important.
this is just my opinion,don't want to poke a stick in anyone's cage...lmao
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Old 08-10-06, 08:38 PM   #30
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i was trying to make 2 points..dang even uncle lizard is cofused.. ok lizzy ifin you all remember. you had a medium crank bait rigged on that high end rod/reel combo that you all let me try out when we fished togather on high rock..i was pointing out that even a great rod/reel/ combo -which it is - is a waste when you have braided line,and try to fish a crankbait with it..
#2 i do alot of pitching under docks. a smooth reel with a good drag and a great braking system is needed. to keep the massive backlashes at bay..
now that i done did draw ya a picture think you can figure it out all by yer lil old self??


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Old 08-10-06, 08:43 PM   #31
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tommy,
i fish/flip/pitch the exact same way, but its really hard to follow your post without
any (hic)'s.... ya dryin' out ol man? rofl
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Old 08-10-06, 09:26 PM   #32
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I put my money in the rods and the johnny morris has been good to me so for, Ive herd they are made by pfuleger (never could spell that word) Sure would like to try out one of the new flugger's but I know if I liked it I would start doing a change out so gonna stay where I am unless I start having trouble.
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Old 08-11-06, 04:14 PM   #33
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thats because even i know better than rigging a crankbait on power pro.. i take it you have never fished a whole lot of under hanging brush..

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Zooker, just curious, you do not use PowerPro for your cranks?
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Old 08-11-06, 06:26 PM   #34
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It's not to often that we disagree , but when "Flipping" the reel isn't even used. So why would that be more important

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Lizards, I only flip in water 2 feet or less, and then more often than not I still pitch then too.Pitching allows you to be in position to catch the fish that bites. Flipping has to much movement involved to do the same task. The reel becomes the most important peice of equipment when presenting a jig properly.I could fasten the properly tuned pitching reel to a shovel handle with metal eyes screwed in as line guides and still catch fish with it.Any other technique I would say the rod is more important than the reel. P N J
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Old 08-11-06, 07:05 PM   #35
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pnj,
i agree, once you get the momentum of pitching just as quietly and picking apart targets, who needs to flip and use the other arm ? i like working in tight and get the pendulum going on pitching, with very little splash
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Old 08-11-06, 10:34 PM   #36
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Maybe i am backwards. I have always spent the most money on my reels. With rods, usually, it takes me a while to get one with a good feel and I don't really spend too much on them. Reels - I believe that i have way overspent.
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Old 08-11-06, 10:58 PM   #37
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hmm the current issue i am totaly lost in. I think the reel is more important... how are you supposed to have a nice presentation and land a fish without a good reel? rods are very important but i think you can get away with a cheap one... my avocet (20 bucks) was fine for a while unil the ferrule busted. that was my dad's fault though, he handles everything so roughly. he puts my rods under like 30 pounds of stuff on a clutered up shelf. As to ugly stiks- have one, can't say im pleased. my avocet had much better sensitivity. cheaper, and weaker but you dont need something srong as an ugly stik. i will be using it for surf fishing.
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Old 08-11-06, 11:03 PM   #38
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if the techniuce you are using requires sensitivity then the rod is more important , but if your doing something like using spinnerbaits or topwater or something like that then the reel is more important IMO
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Old 08-12-06, 10:03 AM   #39
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that was my dad's fault though, he handles everything so roughly. he puts my rods under like 30 pounds of stuff on a clutered up shelf.
No, it was your fault. Your rod=your responsibility.
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Old 08-14-06, 12:06 PM   #40
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your'
e right, it is my responsibility. which is why i had them in a nice safe corner. perfectly fine there. I've told my dad many times not to touch my fishign stuff but he throws away anything small, and chucks anything else into a random part. i try to take care of them and when i put em somewhere safe he puts em in the dangerzone. like in the car he kept telling me to move my rods to the side (under a 50 pound suitcase), and told me nothing would happen even though it was bent like i was landing a 40 pound catfish.
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Old 08-14-06, 03:55 PM   #41
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Gotcha.... Maybe now that he likes to fish, he'll ease up on the equipment...
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Old 08-14-06, 04:04 PM   #42
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yes hopefully. my rods have stayed in the right spot for a day, that looks like a good sign
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Old 08-14-06, 04:11 PM   #43
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Just go wiht Fenwick for your rod choices LOL, gets rid of the rod equation, right Zook?

For reels, Mitchell, Shimano,Quantum, Daiwa are all good, find your favorite.
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Old 08-14-06, 06:06 PM   #44
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I'm sure I can outfish most without a reel at all in CERTAIN unique situations, and "flippin" a typical drainage pond or golf course lake in the pre-dawn would be that situation. Good question, partly because there are no definite cut and dried answers and partly because it almost got some arguing and cussing going.
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Old 08-14-06, 07:32 PM   #45
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Culprits, there's been plenty of arguin' and cussin' goin' on...
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Old 08-14-06, 08:08 PM   #46
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i won't waste my time even puttin power pro on ANY REEL i own.. it is junk imo ..

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Old 08-16-06, 06:27 PM   #47
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definetely the rod, although they are both extremely important
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Old 08-16-06, 07:34 PM   #48
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I personally put way more money into the reel than the rod, however I look at rods more carefully as far as handle style and length, and then look carefully at the rods stengths and flexiblity.
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