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Old 03-28-08, 08:52 AM   #26
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Just get some Sufix BRAID, and use the mono for backing.

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Old 03-28-08, 11:46 AM   #27
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Lizards, you can't use braid for everything. Maybe the mono is to go on a cranking rod. mono is, IMO, the only line for cranking.\

So, Buzz, what rod you putting this on anyways?

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Old 03-28-08, 12:49 PM   #28
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This is a Spinnerbait Rod, by the way. It is a Falcon Low Rider 6'7'' MH Bass Spin, spinning. Great rod for spinnerbaits; little too tough for crankbaits though, especially the smaller ones like the Sub Warts, Bandit 100's, etc.

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Well since It's for spinnerbaits I'd absolutley downsize the line. I use 8lb for spinnerbaits. I also prefer throwing spinnerbaits on a baitcaster, but I do think the line size is your problems. Try 8 or 10lb and see if it makes a difference, that will be better for spinnerbaits anyways.

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Old 03-28-08, 06:51 PM   #30
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Lizards, you can't use braid for everything. Maybe the mono is to go on a cranking rod. mono is, IMO, the only line for cranking.\

So, Buzz, what rod you putting this on anyways?

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Do you wanna put some money on "THAT" statement Look I never said anyone has to like how I fish, or the equipment I use. Each person has his own tatses for all applications. Now I will state for a fact, my preferences come from fishing first hand. Not just talking here on the boards, and deciding that what someone else likes is what must be the best. I've tried about every type of line, and use what works for me. I can argue the side of braid for any application you want.

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Old 03-28-08, 07:31 PM   #31
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i've used braid on crankbaits and spinnerbaits for 2 years and have not had any problems at all, however i carry many rods that have mono that also have cranks and blades on em. Main reason for that is experimenting with dif geared quantums, I've had the same 5 baitcasters (quantum) and same shimano citica since 1995. all work just fine and some have braid , some dont. I know that the mono stretches and benefits ya in the impact of the hit, but i want to do my own field testing, thats 1/2 the fun of fishing on your own.
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Do you wanna put some money on "THAT" statement Look I never said anyone has to like how I fish, or the equipment I use. Each person has his own tatses for all applications. Now I will state for a fact, my preferences come from fishing first hand. Not just talking here on the boards, and deciding that what someone else likes is what must be the best. I've tried about every type of line, and use what works for me. I can argue the side of braid for any application you want.

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Ok, so maybe you CAN use braid for everything, but again, it's all personal preference. and IMO, Fluoro and mono are better suited for some things than braid.

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Old 03-29-08, 04:41 PM   #33
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i have no problems at all w/ suffix elite...i love that stuff.best line i have ever used

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i agree i love elite cant use any other mono anymore
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Old 03-30-08, 07:02 AM   #34
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I'm glad there are others here who fell in love with the castability of Sufix Elite.

I actually never go higher than 8lb. test on my spinning reels.
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Old 03-30-08, 09:47 PM   #35
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This is the last time I will try Sufix monofilament!

I attempted to spool some 14 lb monofilament on the Spinnerbait Rod in preparation for fishing today, (no fish, by the way), and this line jumped-off the spool instantly! As I was winding it one, the line pulled one of the numbers where it forms a 'noose'-like curl, preventing the line from spooling properly.

Good thing is I'm going to Cabela's this weekend to get some good monofilament!

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Suffix oversizes its line. As in 10lbs suffix is the diameter of 12lbs anything else. Id try downsizing.
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Old 03-31-08, 11:59 AM   #36
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The biggest problem with braid is many times. People put heavy line on rods that can't take the stresses of the line your using. Not including damaging guides & what not. Follow the rods recomendations on poundage. You rod will last allot longer. Thatz why i cry when i hear 65 pound line on a allstar rod rated at 20 max.
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Moose, that 65 lb. test is only equal to 17 lb. test. So technically, that is still in the ratings, although it does make quite a sound!

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Old 03-31-08, 01:25 PM   #38
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Moose, that 65 lb. test is only equal to 17 lb. test. So technically, that is still in the ratings, although it does make quite a sound!

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Actually, Buzz, Moose is right.. The 65 lb test rating is far higher than most of the rods we are using (I am just a guilty as the next guy). The rod strength is noted on the blank, over powering that rating could jeopardize your warranty and break your rod in the right situation. What you just stated is the "equivalent line diameter".

That's another reason I keep my drag backed off on my reels spooled with braid. It softens the impact of the braid to the rod. I broke a couple of rods early on by setting the hook too hard with the braid.
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Moose, that 65 lb. test is only equal to 17 lb. test. So technically, that is still in the ratings, although it does make quite a sound!

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No sir line diameter plays no role in the stresses of a rod.!!!
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Actually, Buzz, Moose is right.. The 65 lb test rating is far higher than most of the rods we are using (I am just a guilty as the next guy). The rod strength is noted on the blank, over powering that rating could jeopardize your warranty and break your rod in the right situation. What you just stated is the "equivalent line diameter".

That's another reason I keep my drag backed off on my reels spooled with braid. It softens the impact of the braid to the rod. I broke a couple of rods early on by setting the hook too hard with the braid.
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Ahh.....

I was thinking that if it was the same diameter, all was the same. After thinking about it though, I guess it does make sense. Braid doesn't stretch, so I guess it does put more of a strain on the rod.

What can I do to make sure I'm not putting too much strain on my fishin' rod?

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Moose, that 65 lb. test is only equal to 17 lb. test. So technically, that is still in the ratings, although it does make quite a sound!

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Running a heavy poundage line on a rod will void all warranty's on all those high price rods that you own. I don't care what company that made it. Now if you don't care fine with me.
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Ahh.....

I was thinking that if it was the same diameter, all was the same. After thinking about it though, I guess it does make sense. Braid doesn't stretch, so I guess it does put more of a strain on the rod.

What can I do to make sure I'm not putting too much strain on my fishin' rod?

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Drop your line size down to specified limits on your rod
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Ahh.....

I was thinking that if it was the same diameter, all was the same. After thinking about it though, I guess it does make sense. Braid doesn't stretch, so I guess it does put more of a strain on the rod.

What can I do to make sure I'm not putting too much strain on my fishin' rod?

-Buzz
If any of those rods are under warranty I would suggest changing the line out to the recommended poundage (use braid with the right poundage if you want). If the warranty is not an issue then loosen your drag on the reel so that it pulls out fairly easy with some tension.
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So you're saying to change the line to the reccommended line weight? For example, my Flippin' Stick is rated for 15-35 lb., would 40 lb. Power Pro be OK?

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NOPE!!! 15 to 35 as stated!!!
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Ahh.....

I was thinking that if it was the same diameter, all was the same. After thinking about it though, I guess it does make sense. Braid doesn't stretch, so I guess it does put more of a strain on the rod.

What can I do to make sure I'm not putting too much strain on my fishin' rod?

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Simple, don't put rediculously high pound test line on them. 30 is my max. I mean people say you need higher for fishing ots of weeds and stuff , but when are you ever going to have to pull up even 20lb of weeds?!

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So you're saying to change the line to the reccommended line weight? For example, my Flippin' Stick is rated for 15-35 lb., would 40 lb. Power Pro be OK?

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NOPE!!! 15 to 35 as stated!!!
Yup, I agree moose. And if you want to keep the warranty's on your rods, then using 36lb line on a rod rated for 35 would not be a good idea. Iuse 30lb braid on my Fish Eagle II rod that's like rated for 12, but I don't really care about that rod too much, and it didn't have a warranty to begin with. If you wanna use higher pound test line than your rod is rated for, get an Ugly Stik.



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Simple, don't put rediculously high pound test line on them. 30 is my max. I mean people say you need higher for fishing ots of weeds and stuff , but when are you ever going to have to pull up even 20lb of weeds?!

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It's called hyrdilla. You may also need to pull your boat to a snag if your TM is not working or you don't have one.

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I don't care what your fishing for. Use your drag thatz what itz for. I caught an 80lb blue cat on 17lb mono last year. I was fishing the Missouri river. Trust me i have way more debri than you have. Cars, bodies, sunken boats, tree's & brush & i have an aggressive current to contend with. Over powering a rod is usually a sign sombody does'nt understand the use of his DRAG.
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