crankbait line,spinning outfit

Denny_K · 10-14-07, 09:34 AM

Hey guys,I bought some Vanish flourocarbon line 10lb to use on crankbaits
I love the way it cast,handle,cast a long distant.But the problem is it frays when I fish it around timber and structure ect.I had to go chase down my lure a few time yesterday because in mid cast SNAP! there goes my lure flying threw the air.I thought this is non-abrasive line which means I can fish it in those kinda places.Jb thinks I got a bad batch of line,I hope he's right.other than that.It handled great.I want to be able to fish wood rock all the stuff and not worry about line fray ect. Thanks guys. Denny

dodgeguy · 10-14-07, 11:27 AM

vanish is horrible line.the best flourocarbon is seguar invizx.all lines should be treated with kvd line and lure spray.it helps every kind of line i ever used it on.

JB · 10-14-07, 06:00 PM

the line made a snapping noise like a cap being set off each time it would break, guess its time to try another brand

lunker-lander · 10-14-07, 08:14 PM

Hey DG, after you spray that on your line, does it just help to keep the curling down, or does it make it last longer? Also, do you still catch fish with it on, have you seen a difference in catches after spraying it on?

-ll

Rebbasser · 10-14-07, 09:17 PM

l-l, the KVD Line and Lure does help with memory. I use it on all my rods and it seems to make whatever line I am using handle better.

airskank · 10-14-07, 09:31 PM

I picked up the KVD spray yesterday @ Basspro thanks to my friends from Toyota giving away 10$ gift certificates to listen to them for like 2 min talk about the tundra. even got a hat and a multi-tool.(best day of my life) the wife got one too

. so the 20 bux went to a crankin series BP rod.

but anyways to my question... can you use the spray on braid too? or just for mono/fluro lines?

islandbass · 10-15-07, 02:50 AM

Now you know why it is called Poof! Uh I mean Vanish. Luckily the lure broke off vs. the fish of a lifetime.

I second the Invizx recommendation. I use this line and have been very pleased with it.

Denny_K · 10-15-07, 01:16 PM

Hey thanks guys I'll check out the seguar line you talked about.c-ya Denny

lizardsrule · 10-15-07, 06:30 PM

BRAID!!!!

Lizards

JB · 10-15-07, 06:43 PM

lizards,
i keep telling him........
and telling him.......................

Wags · 10-15-07, 07:44 PM

OK...I know I'm fairly new to semi-serious bass fishing, but every time I read something.....I feel more and more like a total knob!!! ok...what the hell is KVD spray, what does it do? how is it applied? can it be used to freshen up the bathroom??...HELP!!!!

BassAddict · 10-16-07, 08:57 AM

Vanish and Vanish Transition are the absolute worst lines ever made in my opinion. For the reasons you found out yourself if nothing else. It is horrible line. I fish my crankbaits with P-Line FluoroClear. This stuff is super strong. I've started using it for worms and jigs lately with great success too. I highly recommend it!

Eric

lizardsrule · 10-16-07, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wags

OK...I know I'm fairly new to semi-serious bass fishing, but every time I read something.....I feel more and more like a total knob!!! ok...what the hell is KVD spray, what does it do? how is it applied? can it be used to freshen up the bathroom??...HELP!!!!

Reel Magic, and KVD spray are something similiar to a lubricant, in a aerosol spray can. They help mono/flouro have just a little less memory. You can just spray it on the reel/line. If you want to do it right, then soak a rag in it, and reel the line in as it's going thorugh the rag. It needs to be continuosly applied, like evey 30 minutes or so. It's not a do all for line, but it does help. Now the good answer is to get rid of that stuff, and just use Braid rotfl.

Lizards

WIUbassin · 10-23-07, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BassAddict

Vanish and Vanish Transition are the absolute worst lines ever made in my opinion. For the reasons you found out yourself if nothing else. It is horrible line. I fish my crankbaits with P-Line FluoroClear. This stuff is super strong. I've started using it for worms and jigs lately with great success too. I highly recommend it!

Eric

I'll vouch on that one as well bassaddict I used it this season on my crankbait rod 12lbs test. I have yet to lose a fish on it... My only concern with it is that now that it is getting to be the end of the season and I have used it a ton through out the spring summer and fall. I am having alittle trouble with knots breaking. I'll sometimes have to tie 3 or 4 knots before I get a really strong hold. But as far as casting and strength I am planning on using it again next spring.

dodgeguy · 10-23-07, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lunker-lander

Hey DG, after you spray that on your line, does it just help to keep the curling down, or does it make it last longer? Also, do you still catch fish with it on, have you seen a difference in catches after spraying it on?

-ll

it makes the line much more manageable.does not deter strikes from fish.reel magic is a silicone spray.kvd is a coating that stays on your line.it will not turn wire into limp string but it's a good addition for any line.

garry_3000 · 10-23-07, 12:44 PM

Ok I See That Some Of You Like Braid For Everything But I Dont See How That Can Be First Braid Is Good For Fishing Brush And Weeds But When Fishing Rocks The Stuff Gets Cut Real Easy And Will Break And In Clear Water You Can See The Stuff An Mile Down Please Tell Me More About How And When You Guys Use Braid

BigBassin144 · 10-24-07, 10:12 PM

Well, some people do only use braid. Personally, I use mono and fluoro as well as braid. Now like you said about clear water, some people don't believe that line visibility makes any difference. As for me, I do. I recently switched to braid and caught less fish. So, even more recently, I started using a fluoro leader, and are now catching more fish.

--bb144--

Lancer6 · 10-26-07, 08:33 AM

Denny,

Braid will be OK. However, if you have concerns about line visibility and you tend to use a stop-and-go retrieve with certain of your cranks, then braid might shake your confidence in very clear water.
Also to be considered is the lack of stretch in braid. With all the whoop-de-do about not tearing the hooks out of the bass's mouth...glass rods, parabolic actions, etc, the decreased "give" may cause you some concerns. Still, with one of those springy crankbait rods, the decrease in stretch may actually be of some benefit, especially in detecting a bite on slack line during a stop-and-go retrieve or when a bass just swims up alongside the lure and gently takes it. That DOES happen, you know.
If braid doesn't blow your bloomers up, then instead of pure fluorocarbon you might try a cofilament combo such as P-Line FloroClear (No "U" in that.) FloroClear is a premium mono sheathed in flourocarbon. The result is that it sinks fairly rapidly, which is desirable in virtually all applications save for topwater (plugs, buzzbaits, toads, frogs, etc.) Also, the fluoro sheathing makes it almost as invisible as pure fluorocarbon.
Now for the best part(s); One, it's a lot less costly than pure fluoro. Two, it seems to be less prone to fatal kinking.
BTW, it's very mannerly on either spinning OR casting reels. Why not give it a try?
And...Vanish, and it's cousin, Transition are the lousiest lines I've EVER used. I'd give up fishing before I'd even use it for backing!

10-14-07, 09:34 AM	#1
Denny_K BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 324	crankbait line,spinning outfit Hey guys,I bought some Vanish flourocarbon line 10lb to use on crankbaits I love the way it cast,handle,cast a long distant.But the problem is it frays when I fish it around timber and structure ect.I had to go chase down my lure a few time yesterday because in mid cast SNAP! there goes my lure flying threw the air.I thought this is non-abrasive line which means I can fish it in those kinda places.Jb thinks I got a bad batch of line,I hope he's right.other than that.It handled great.I want to be able to fish wood rock all the stuff and not worry about line fray ect. Thanks guys. Denny

10-14-07, 11:27 AM	#2
dodgeguy BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: poughkeepsie,n.y. Posts: 930	vanish is horrible line.the best flourocarbon is seguar invizx.all lines should be treated with kvd line and lure spray.it helps every kind of line i ever used it on. __________________ chrysler master tech,avid fisherman and i bleed red,white and blue!!!!

10-14-07, 08:14 PM	#4
lunker-lander BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,628	Hey DG, after you spray that on your line, does it just help to keep the curling down, or does it make it last longer? Also, do you still catch fish with it on, have you seen a difference in catches after spraying it on? -ll __________________ I don't see why schools are Public. If all schools were made Private, trespassers would be eliminated!

10-14-07, 09:17 PM	#5
Rebbasser BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 10,141	l-l, the KVD Line and Lure does help with memory. I use it on all my rods and it seems to make whatever line I am using handle better. __________________ It's happened to the best of them: John 21:3

10-15-07, 02:50 AM	#7
islandbass BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WA State Posts: 1,783	Now you know why it is called Poof! Uh I mean Vanish. Luckily the lure broke off vs. the fish of a lifetime. I second the Invizx recommendation. I use this line and have been very pleased with it. __________________ ARX "If people concentrated on the really important things in life, there'd be a shortage of fishing poles." Doug Larson (Shimano 2005 Reel Catalog)

10-14-07, 06:00 PM	#3
JB BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,655	the line made a snapping noise like a cap being set off each time it would break, guess its time to try another brand

10-14-07, 09:31 PM	#6
airskank BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sykesville MD Posts: 24	I picked up the KVD spray yesterday @ Basspro thanks to my friends from Toyota giving away 10$ gift certificates to listen to them for like 2 min talk about the tundra. even got a hat and a multi-tool.(best day of my life) the wife got one too . so the 20 bux went to a crankin series BP rod. but anyways to my question... can you use the spray on braid too? or just for mono/fluro lines?

10-15-07, 01:16 PM	#8
Denny_K BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 324	coool Hey thanks guys I'll check out the seguar line you talked about.c-ya Denny

10-15-07, 06:30 PM	#9
lizardsrule BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saint Augustine, FL Posts: 7,374	BRAID!!!! Lizards __________________ There are three types of Snakes I hate 1. Live Snakes 2. Dead Snakes 3. Sticks that look like Snakes. And Gators too!

10-15-07, 06:43 PM	#10
JB BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,655	lizards, i keep telling him........ and telling him.......................

10-15-07, 07:44 PM	#11
Wags BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Swartz Creek, Michigan Posts: 163	OK...I know I'm fairly new to semi-serious bass fishing, but every time I read something.....I feel more and more like a total knob!!! ok...what the hell is KVD spray, what does it do? how is it applied? can it be used to freshen up the bathroom??...HELP!!!!

10-16-07, 08:57 AM	#12
BassAddict BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Richmond, Virginia Posts: 805	Vanish and Vanish Transition are the absolute worst lines ever made in my opinion. For the reasons you found out yourself if nothing else. It is horrible line. I fish my crankbaits with P-Line FluoroClear. This stuff is super strong. I've started using it for worms and jigs lately with great success too. I highly recommend it! Eric

10-23-07, 12:44 PM	#16
garry_3000 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: indianapolis, in Posts: 267	Hold On Now Ok I See That Some Of You Like Braid For Everything But I Dont See How That Can Be First Braid Is Good For Fishing Brush And Weeds But When Fishing Rocks The Stuff Gets Cut Real Easy And Will Break And In Clear Water You Can See The Stuff An Mile Down Please Tell Me More About How And When You Guys Use Braid

10-24-07, 10:12 PM	#17
BigBassin144 BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 9,463	Well, some people do only use braid. Personally, I use mono and fluoro as well as braid. Now like you said about clear water, some people don't believe that line visibility makes any difference. As for me, I do. I recently switched to braid and caught less fish. So, even more recently, I started using a fluoro leader, and are now catching more fish. --bb144-- __________________ As of June 14, 2014 the members of the BF.com forum have moved to basschat.yuku.com!

10-26-07, 08:33 AM	#18
Lancer6 BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Somewhere out there Posts: 734	Denny, Braid will be OK. However, if you have concerns about line visibility and you tend to use a stop-and-go retrieve with certain of your cranks, then braid might shake your confidence in very clear water. Also to be considered is the lack of stretch in braid. With all the whoop-de-do about not tearing the hooks out of the bass's mouth...glass rods, parabolic actions, etc, the decreased "give" may cause you some concerns. Still, with one of those springy crankbait rods, the decrease in stretch may actually be of some benefit, especially in detecting a bite on slack line during a stop-and-go retrieve or when a bass just swims up alongside the lure and gently takes it. That DOES happen, you know. If braid doesn't blow your bloomers up, then instead of pure fluorocarbon you might try a cofilament combo such as P-Line FloroClear (No "U" in that.) FloroClear is a premium mono sheathed in flourocarbon. The result is that it sinks fairly rapidly, which is desirable in virtually all applications save for topwater (plugs, buzzbaits, toads, frogs, etc.) Also, the fluoro sheathing makes it almost as invisible as pure fluorocarbon. Now for the best part(s); One, it's a lot less costly than pure fluoro. Two, it seems to be less prone to fatal kinking. BTW, it's very mannerly on either spinning OR casting reels. Why not give it a try? And...Vanish, and it's cousin, Transition are the lousiest lines I've EVER used. I'd give up fishing before I'd even use it for backing!

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