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Unbiased endorsement of Shimano
I have always been a Daiwa guy. Mostly because I'm seriously into watches and Daiwa is owned by Seiko. They make one hell of an automatic watch movement so I figured reels have to be engineered well. However I just fished a friends Curado..I don't know the model number off hand but it was the 200.00 one with the 7-1 ratio. Holy s@#t, that was the most balanced feeling reel I have ever operated. For a six bearing reel the smoothness was incredible. By far the best reel I have ever used. EVER. I was comparing it to my Daiwa Capricorn 110, which has nine bearings and one roller so it's no slouch of a reel at 160.00. The Shimano just "felt" right. I don't know how else to describe it, but I would highly recommend anyone who is looking for a higher end reel to get it without delay. And to those who already own one....... I'm envious.
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yep the reel will make a good tail race weight but truly useless for any lenth of time.. but it is YOUR money waste it how ever you want to..
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I think most lines of reels (manufacturer name) has a high end reel out there, and shimano has many to pick from, I own a citica and curado and have had no problems at all, however they are alot older than the 2006 models....even diawa has some top end reels that are just as good..
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shimano reels have 75% more plastic parts inside than ANY OTHER reel on the market today. they may be nice for a year or so but will go to hell after that.. they are a WASTE of money..
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I guess I lucked out in the 90's I spent about 1300 on 5 new reels, and they all have had no problem. I imagine I got metal parts inside instead of the plastic components..I don't baby my equipment, but do make sure the are cleaned and lubed and stored away within reason.
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My dad's had his shimano for almost 15 years and he still uses it. It may be a little outdated but it still seems to work fine..
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Yep, the NEW "Rado" is slick alright. It's also OBESE and ridiculously priced at the current MSRP. Weight is your ENEMY!
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My twelve year old Curado, his middle 6 year old brother and their 2 year lil brother are saying that they still have many years ahead.
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If you owned a real Daiwa , instead of their mid line capricorny reel, you would not be so impressed with ****mano's.I was going to say what the hell are you talking about,but then again everyone is entitled to their opinion.Here's mine. They are overpriced peices of chit,built with weak @ssed components that fail.They had to reintroduce the old anti reverse dog system from the early anti reverse days to fortify their overpriced , but obviously flawed super stopper roller bearing system.The gears are thinner than most mid priced brand reels, and to be honest, I am amazed the peices of crap hold up as well as they seem to.If I had more money than brains,I still would rather be kicked in the B@lls by a horse and have to spend my money on a hospital bills, rather than buy a overpriced Shimano reel with the money. Yes I have owned the peices of crap paid way too much for the time they lasted.If you have a Shimano for over 5 years and its still works like new.Try fishing with it more often, they will come undone.I have no doubt, I could kill any Shimano just fishing my jigs with heavy braid within Two seasons of use.Been there, done that to 2 Shimano Castaics, owning them at the same time, they were broken in 2 seasons of fishing.They suck. P N J
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Whew, I am glad I am biased.I do have 2 friends here at the site who own Shimano's. I would rather they be Heroin addicts , or something , but we all have out liitle minor flaws and quirks.You really f'd up and stepped on my biggest quirks right here. It would not bother me if PETA extremist burns the Shimano factory to the ground.It will be one small victory for PETA, one huge victory for the common fishermen who have been getting ripped off by buying over priced Shimano products.If I had a choice of owning a Shimano reel, or having my mother in law work in a *****house ....Well Dear old mom in law, don't take it personally, but someone is going to get the shaft on this deal, Sorry, your it .....I would rather hire Mexican immigrants to mow my lawn than to have to buy a Shimano reel with the money.We all know just how wrong that is to think that way, but that is the way I feel. Its like they're comparable to buying condoms, they are overpriced for the product your buying. Disposable, much like a Shimano reel. You definately ain't getting near the product per price you have to pay for them,or shall we say the best bang for your buck. P N J
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as of late 3 new diawa's advantages and 3 pflughers trions are finding there way on to my rods. quatums are still good as ever.i don't think i will completely give up my quatum energy pt reels. zooker
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Okay, that's it. At 3:00 today, after the final bell rings, you guys are going to meet up in the parking lot and we're going to settle this once and for all. Wait, maybe we should all meet up at the closest lake and see if we can't all come to some type of agreement over a 6 pack of garlic scented sweet beavers.
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I've heard a good response with the Curado as well and Shimano is releasing the Curado D series as well which I heard is even better as far as durability. A website I found does a complete breakdown on different reels, spinning and baitcasting, both in the shop for all of the components, durability, how it works on the water and most importantly cost. One of the top choices I saw was for the new Shimano Citica D which has a bigger profile and is a little heavier, but Shimano has gotten rid of alot of the plastic parts adding to the additional weight.
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I’m sure you’ve seen the shimano and other brand reel ads. You get average-looking, out-of-shape, twenty-something guys made to look, well, dumb. It’s as if the title characters in the movie, “Dumb and Dumber” are the new role models for young men. Heaven help us!
Some examples: 2 guys try to install an air conditioning unit. They’re too stupid to open the window first. 2 guys talking about using 50% instead of 110%...sounds like daddy-O huh 2 guys have a conversation about Kit Kat. Their combined IQ is about 50. 2 guys: 1 holds upside-down slurpies or something in a cup over the other guy’s head interspersed with making weird noises. A phalanx of young men, march through a residential neighbourhood, creating such a stir that they leave chaos in their wake, all the while singing and chanting, "Beer, beer, beer, beer. Beer, beer, beer, beer." Fat guy hauls in an old hockey arena organ. He and his friends have a party, surrounded by beautiful women. The fat guy plays the organ while ogling the cleavage of a blonde holding the sheet music. Blonde cocktail waitress walks by and is knocked down by a couple of guys playing tether-ball in the middle of the bar. There is a frat-boy mentality at work here that’s rather disturbing. (As an aside, why is it okay for guys to be average-looking in commercials, but women in the same ad have to be beautiful? But I digress. That’s a whole other rant.) I read a comment by a social scientist of some sort who stated that this trend in advertising is a form of “reel-bashing”. He contends that if Mexicans were portrayed in this way, there would be an incredible outcry. Well, he’s right. mexicools would be upset - mainly because it would, more than likely, have been males that made the marketing decisions to run those ads. Let’s face it, even today, the people who make those kinds of decisions are still mostly owners of high priced reels. In addition, and I may be generalizing here, but not many shimano owners I know would want to portray themselves in ads as being idiots. Okay, so given that these ads were most likely given the go-ahead by fishermen, how can it be construed as shimano-bashing? Do men really see themselves as stupid and sophomoric? The marketing and advertising people must think so. Otherwise why else would they run the ads? Their job is to target a particular demographic and sell a product. The only thing they worry about is the bottom line. They’re not in the business of male-bashing out of spite. Somewhere, somehow, their researchers told them that these ads would sell product. If they didn’t work or if men took offence to the ads, they’d be pulled. It’s hard for me to envisage a bunch of suits in a boardroom saying, “Yeah, let’s go with that! The 2 guys talking about Kit Kat. They sound really, really dumb! Great, just what we’re looking for! The guys’ll love it!” But obviously, that’s what is happening. So far, I haven’t heard a great hue and cry by young men complaining about their portrayal. This leads me to believe that they agree with the message of the commercials. If ya have the money to buy a shimano, then buy one….. |
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