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Old 07-25-06, 12:58 AM   #1
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Default Do dark purple worms work in muddy water?

Do dark purple platic worms work in muddy stained water?

Can anyone point me into the direction of a color that might work in my lakes water conditions?

Which one should I try please help me out.


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Old 07-25-06, 01:01 AM   #2
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not sure abou that but in darker water i like to use plastics with contrasting colors. such as a dark body with a bright tail. or just bright plastics. in clearer waters more natural colors work
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Old 07-25-06, 01:09 AM   #3
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dark colors work well in muddy waters so to answer your question, yes. actually purple is the most visible color in the water. its the last color to be filterered out by the refractive qualities of water/light
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Old 07-25-06, 01:45 AM   #4
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The darker color provides a silhouette/contrast that the fish can make out. Worms with rattles inserted/internal will also help in the dingy water. Personally I prefer a jig-n-trailer in the dingy water to give off more vibration and a larger (silhouette) profile.
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Old 07-25-06, 09:04 AM   #5
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We go with junebug or black and chartruse tipped tail for murky water, I'd say purple is an all around color, works most of the time.
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Yes, purple always works
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Old 07-25-06, 05:08 PM   #7
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9 times out of 10, It don't matter what color it is, its the presentation you use and whether you are fishing where the fish are. P N J
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Old 07-25-06, 08:29 PM   #8
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Yes, purple always works
I wouldn't say that, but then again, purple has almost never failed me.
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I have found the red shad, or black to work for me.
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Old 07-26-06, 12:47 PM   #10
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I have caught the most and biggest fish on a chartreuse in darker water. Most people wont believe that but its held true for me. I was using a chartreuse w black pepper (color) mixed worm most the time.
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Old 07-27-06, 12:05 AM   #11
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Do dark purple platic worms work in muddy stained water?
Is it muddy, or is it stained To me those are to different conditions. But I use greenpumpkin and black in all conditions, reguardless of water color/clarity and I'm happy with the success I've had. Purple should work fine.

PNJ, I do think color matters at times. I've seen shades(not colors) be more effective. This has happened or several occasions. So at times I do beleive color(shades) matter. But if your using darker shades, more often than not, your gonna be right.

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Old 07-27-06, 12:40 AM   #12
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I can tell you at least in Nor Cal purple is a staple color. I trow lures with purple in 1 form or anoter at least 75% of the time. I throw it in clear water...muddy water....shallow....deep. I have caught bass up to 8+ lbs on purple. My Dad last weekend caught a 8.24lb on a magarita mutilator roboworm(purple with brown) dropshot. At every lake around here I can catch with purple....Just my .02
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Old 07-27-06, 09:52 PM   #13
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Old 07-28-06, 12:06 AM   #14
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Steve Jr.,

There was a time, circa the late 60's into the 70's, when the purple worm was the standard by which all other worms were judged. It's closest competitors were the black, strawberry, blue, and (a little later,) something called "motoroil", the first of which really did look like motoroil.
Mind you, there was not the wide assortment of various metalflakes but there were contrasting tails. So, one might throw a purple/yellow or purple/white. One might choose a black/chartreuse tail or a strawberry/chartreuse.
BTW, though not to spark an argument, I believe blue to be the most visible color at depth.
Whatever color fades fastest as it goes deeper is not really your question. Your's is based on much reduced water clarity. This might surprise you, but color may play less of a role than other factors; factors which YOU can control.
Now, I don't recommend you somehow pour a few fluorocarbon worms and thereby make your offering invisible just to test my theory. I do, however, recommend that you:
Use a worm with a fairly thick body, perhaps no shorter than 6" in length. I further recommend a "gator"-style worm; one with a more sickle-shaped tail as compared to the ribbon tail of something like a 7" Berkley Power Worm. Remember that you want a lure that will displace and disturb a lot of water on it's falls. The wider sickle tail might cause a slower fall as well, and that means the worm is "active" for perhaps a few precious seconds longer as it is falling. You might also consider a 5-6" curl-tail grub.
Next, make a rattle insertion tool. But...rather than take up space here... you can PM me for instructions on how I make them.

Now, if you have a worm that displaces a lot of water, has a rattle, there's one factor left to address...scent. It's up to you as to whether you use a worm that is impregnated with an attractant, add attractant, etc., but all I can say to that is that I'd make application of a good scent about every 5th cast, and THAT is if the worm/grub already stinks to high heaven.

Steve, so far we've thought in terms of "worm". A recent experience at a lake here in Texas compels me to offer another suggestion; behold the "SenkoTikiYumDingerWhatever."!
Last Sunday AM, around 0530, a 5" Tiki with a RATTLE inserted right behind the bend of the hook (Texas Rig) caught four in a row for me when the usual suspects had failed me. No monsters, but at least something bit!
While the water in that lake is pretty clear, and you are mentioning muddy water, it was moonless and dark as Hades so the same principles apply.
Think a moment...Soft stick, T-rigged = pretty slow fall. A periodic little twitch as it sinks makes a rattling noise...Hmmmmmmm. Add scent...Wow!
BTW, it was a green pumpkin/chartreuse swirl 5" Tiki, not the traditional black most would choose for the "night shift". I'm willing to bet that color played NO role.

I've used up enough bandwidth for now. PM me if you wanna learn more. Maybe we can link via phone...easier!

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Great, informative post fly!
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Old 07-28-06, 02:44 PM   #16
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Old 07-30-06, 11:21 AM   #18
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Fly you are exactly correct. This is especially true in clear or stained water, Once Bill Dance said" I like any color worm as long as it is blue" If you study how the light spectrum affects color you will find that blue ,purple and the other violet hues require less lite to make color. By the way Red and orange reguire the most.During the 80 I caught hundreds of bass on a translucient blue worm with a chartreuse tail. I dont think anyone even makes that color anymore.One day when fishing an oxbow in Mississippi, i think it was about 1978 I caught 8 bass that weighed 40 pounds on a solid blue ring worm.
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