Couple Questions for the experts

everettvet · 08-01-07, 11:32 AM

What size hook and style of hook do you use when fishing 9.5 inch - 12 inch worms?

What action of rod, length of rod and composite (graphite or glass) of rod do you use for casting jigs on ledges/drops?

I just thought I would try and get some feedback from the group.

JB · 08-01-07, 11:42 AM

I'd use a 4/0 offset gammy with a heavy or MH baitcaster. However I see many guys at lake Monroe in southern indiana use big 10 inch worms on just about every kind of setup you can imagine. Bigger profile worm, bigger area to penetrate with the hook, so go bigger IMO. works on KY lake to!

carolina-rig-01 · 08-01-07, 11:59 AM

i would use a owner 5/0 wide gap plus for my hook. a 7' medium heavy rod. and seaguar inviz x for my line ( a lot of guys probably wouldn't want to use fluorocarbon for this but i really like it myself).

ToPwAt'R GuY · 08-01-07, 05:42 PM

I would use a 5/0 offset gammy hook. They work really well for me when I'm fishing big soft plastics. For the rod I'd go with a 7' MH graphite rod. What I look for in a jig rod is a rod with good backbone and a nice sensitive tip. I like to be able to feel what my jig is doing while its under water and be able to get a good hookset. This setup does both. Hope this helps.

everettvet · 08-01-07, 05:52 PM

Thanks for the repsonses. The help is much appreicated.

zooker · 08-01-07, 05:59 PM

5/0 or 6/0 ewg gammy.. the trick with large bait such as the 12" worm you need to texaspose the hook. count longer before setting the hook. i used 7.5" senko type bait once i had to count to 7 to get a good hook up..

zooker

everettvet · 08-01-07, 06:06 PM

Zook,

I know that I don't have enough patience to count to 7 before the hook set. I realize that the situation dictates the hook set. We use a lot of 10 -12" worms on Kentucky lake and I am still learning to ledge fish. It doesn't seem like I will ever get the hang of ledge fishing. I guess that means that I need to spend more time on the water. Darn the luck!

zooker · 08-01-07, 06:10 PM

think top water pause. that long a wait is good with them worms.. the bass will grab the worm by the tail them take a bigger bite this bigger bite is where the hook should be..the reason for the texasposed is the hook digs in the second you start to pull the line and not pull the hook out of the fishes mouth..

zooker

everettvet · 08-01-07, 06:12 PM

I will give it a try on Saturday.

If you ever make over this way, let me know and we will hook up the Triton and see what happens on Kentucky/Barkley lakes.

zooker · 08-01-07, 06:16 PM

never fished in ky but tenn plenty of times..

ya never know i may just buy a boat out that way..

zooker

bassintom · 08-02-07, 05:30 PM

I'd use a 11/0 hook and 7' heavy rod.But that's just me.

Rodman_Rob · 08-02-07, 07:38 PM

10 inch - 5/0
12 inch - 6/0

6ft rod if you need to make short accurate presentations
7ft rod if you need to make longer casts

Rebbasser · 08-02-07, 08:00 PM

At least a 5/0 EWG-that's a lot of plastic, and you don't want the throat of the hook clogged up with plastic. 6-6 to 7' MH action rod.

I fish all my non-finesse non-flipping jigs on a 6-10 H action rod.

bassfisher02 · 08-02-07, 08:04 PM

Does anyone ever do the double hook method? 2 hooks rigged a few inches from eachother, one to cover the front of the worm and another to get the back? Only practical if you dont liek to use such large hooks. I've done it a few times but I dont fish that sized worm too much.

JB · 08-02-07, 08:09 PM

I only use the one big hook upfront, but can remember when alot of guys would use a worm prerigged with 2 or more often 3 hooks, that were probably the size of a @4 crappie hook. A big rage in the 80s, creme had them and I think a brand called tournement worms would sell a few prerigged ones in packages for a couple of bucks...not many colors available tho. Black or creme color or a few that had a dif colored straight tail, and then some with a small spinner in front.

man if this doen't bring mymomisbecky oughta woodwork, what will?

basschamp4 · 08-02-07, 09:17 PM

ive never heard of tournament worms but there are a brand that i have bought a couple of times they are prerigged and work great for me but the hooks are small and are sometimes very hard to get out

bassfisher02 · 08-02-07, 10:31 PM

Thats the point, they are made to stay in.

Rodman_Rob · 08-02-07, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassfisher02

Thats the point, they are made to stay in.

if ya wanna make your own, just tie two hooks together w/ 65lbs PP. Then rig the worm on that. The added weight of the second hook could provide a very deadly fall rate when rigged weightless.

bassfisher02 · 08-02-07, 11:31 PM

Thats what I do when I fish them, I use the double hook method.

FlyRod · 08-03-07, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by everettvet

What size hook and style of hook do you use when fishing 9.5 inch - 12 inch worms?

What action of rod, length of rod and composite (graphite or glass) of rod do you use for casting jigs on ledges/drops?

I just thought I would try and get some feedback from the group.

Re: Original thread title:

Experts? EXPERTS?! Here?

Riiiiiiight!

FR
Amateur, still learning, and darned proud of it.

everettvet · 08-03-07, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyRod

Re: Original thread title:

Experts? EXPERTS?! Here?

Riiiiiiight!

FR
Amateur, still learning, and darned proud of it.

Yea, That statement was kind of with a "wink, wink." I have learned alot from this site and enjoy reading it.

I am an amateur and still have more to learn than I have time for.

bassfisher02 · 08-03-07, 09:04 PM

I was convinced he was reffering solely to me? I was a bit taken back when everyone else started to post. Haha!

zooker · 08-04-07, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassfisher02

Does anyone ever do the double hook method? 2 hooks rigged a few inches from eachother, one to cover the front of the worm and another to get the back? Only practical if you dont liek to use such large hooks. I've done it a few times but I dont fish that sized worm too much.

yeah i have tri-rigged with a 16" worm and a 18" lizard.. the trick is to use trailer hooks -like those used on a spinnerbait- all the points need to be texasposed..

zooker

Bender · 08-04-07, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zooker

18" lizard

That ain't no lizard, that is a Komodo Dragon!!!
The biggest worm I have used was a 10" and I think I had a 4/0 EWG hook, but the hook seemed too small. Worked though, mostly used during and after dusk.

BPACA · 08-04-07, 08:29 PM

5/0 hook is what I use on 10 inch worms....12 inch probably would go with a 6/0 or a 7/0 if available......like expert zook says you need to wait a little longer with a big worm....like at least 3 seconds.

08-01-07, 11:32 AM	#1
everettvet BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Paducah, KY Posts: 730	Couple Questions for the experts What size hook and style of hook do you use when fishing 9.5 inch - 12 inch worms? What action of rod, length of rod and composite (graphite or glass) of rod do you use for casting jigs on ledges/drops? I just thought I would try and get some feedback from the group.

08-01-07, 11:59 AM	#3
carolina-rig-01 BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Webb City, MO Posts: 6,387	i would use a owner 5/0 wide gap plus for my hook. a 7' medium heavy rod. and seaguar inviz x for my line ( a lot of guys probably wouldn't want to use fluorocarbon for this but i really like it myself). __________________ You only live once. But if you do it right, once is enough.

08-01-07, 05:59 PM	#6
zooker BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: denton nc Posts: 13,441	5/0 or 6/0 ewg gammy.. the trick with large bait such as the 12" worm you need to texaspose the hook. count longer before setting the hook. i used 7.5" senko type bait once i had to count to 7 to get a good hook up.. zooker __________________ the godfather.. aml in remission since 7-20-09

08-01-07, 06:10 PM	#8
zooker BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: denton nc Posts: 13,441	think top water pause. that long a wait is good with them worms.. the bass will grab the worm by the tail them take a bigger bite this bigger bite is where the hook should be..the reason for the texasposed is the hook digs in the second you start to pull the line and not pull the hook out of the fishes mouth.. zooker __________________ the godfather.. aml in remission since 7-20-09 Last edited by zooker; 08-01-07 at 06:16 PM.

08-01-07, 06:16 PM	#10
zooker BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: denton nc Posts: 13,441	never fished in ky but tenn plenty of times.. ya never know i may just buy a boat out that way.. zooker __________________ the godfather.. aml in remission since 7-20-09

08-01-07, 11:42 AM	#2
JB BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,655	I'd use a 4/0 offset gammy with a heavy or MH baitcaster. However I see many guys at lake Monroe in southern indiana use big 10 inch worms on just about every kind of setup you can imagine. Bigger profile worm, bigger area to penetrate with the hook, so go bigger IMO. works on KY lake to!

08-01-07, 05:42 PM	#4
ToPwAt'R GuY BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: missouri Posts: 930	I would use a 5/0 offset gammy hook. They work really well for me when I'm fishing big soft plastics. For the rod I'd go with a 7' MH graphite rod. What I look for in a jig rod is a rod with good backbone and a nice sensitive tip. I like to be able to feel what my jig is doing while its under water and be able to get a good hookset. This setup does both. Hope this helps.

08-01-07, 05:52 PM	#5
everettvet BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Paducah, KY Posts: 730	Thanks for the repsonses. The help is much appreicated.

08-01-07, 06:06 PM	#7
everettvet BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Paducah, KY Posts: 730	Zook, I know that I don't have enough patience to count to 7 before the hook set. I realize that the situation dictates the hook set. We use a lot of 10 -12" worms on Kentucky lake and I am still learning to ledge fish. It doesn't seem like I will ever get the hang of ledge fishing. I guess that means that I need to spend more time on the water. Darn the luck!

08-01-07, 06:12 PM	#9
everettvet BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Paducah, KY Posts: 730	I will give it a try on Saturday. If you ever make over this way, let me know and we will hook up the Triton and see what happens on Kentucky/Barkley lakes.

08-02-07, 05:30 PM	#11
bassintom BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: washington(northwest) N.J. Posts: 3,958	I'd use a 11/0 hook and 7' heavy rod.But that's just me. __________________ A man's gotta believe in something...I believe I'll go fishing.

08-02-07, 07:38 PM	#12
Rodman_Rob BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ocala, FL. 1/2 hour southwest of Rodman Posts: 1,702	10 inch - 5/0 12 inch - 6/0 6ft rod if you need to make short accurate presentations 7ft rod if you need to make longer casts __________________ Lizardsrule may not be able to drive a boat, but he can sure put you on the fish!

08-02-07, 08:00 PM	#13
Rebbasser BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 10,141	At least a 5/0 EWG-that's a lot of plastic, and you don't want the throat of the hook clogged up with plastic. 6-6 to 7' MH action rod. I fish all my non-finesse non-flipping jigs on a 6-10 H action rod. __________________ It's happened to the best of them: John 21:3

08-02-07, 08:04 PM	#14
bassfisher02 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 4,765	Does anyone ever do the double hook method? 2 hooks rigged a few inches from eachother, one to cover the front of the worm and another to get the back? Only practical if you dont liek to use such large hooks. I've done it a few times but I dont fish that sized worm too much. __________________ Good Fishin'

08-02-07, 08:09 PM	#15
JB BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,655	I only use the one big hook upfront, but can remember when alot of guys would use a worm prerigged with 2 or more often 3 hooks, that were probably the size of a @4 crappie hook. A big rage in the 80s, creme had them and I think a brand called tournement worms would sell a few prerigged ones in packages for a couple of bucks...not many colors available tho. Black or creme color or a few that had a dif colored straight tail, and then some with a small spinner in front. man if this doen't bring mymomisbecky oughta woodwork, what will?

08-02-07, 09:17 PM	#16
basschamp4 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: avon, indiana Posts: 153	ive never heard of tournament worms but there are a brand that i have bought a couple of times they are prerigged and work great for me but the hooks are small and are sometimes very hard to get out __________________ biggest bass: 26" 5.2 lbs

08-02-07, 10:31 PM	#17
bassfisher02 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 4,765	Thats the point, they are made to stay in. __________________ Good Fishin'

08-02-07, 11:31 PM	#19
bassfisher02 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 4,765	Thats what I do when I fish them, I use the double hook method. __________________ Good Fishin'

08-03-07, 09:04 PM	#22
bassfisher02 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 4,765	I was convinced he was reffering solely to me? I was a bit taken back when everyone else started to post. Haha! __________________ Good Fishin'

08-04-07, 08:29 PM	#25
BPACA BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 420	5/0 hook is what I use on 10 inch worms....12 inch probably would go with a 6/0 or a 7/0 if available......like expert zook says you need to wait a little longer with a big worm....like at least 3 seconds.

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