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Old 08-04-08, 09:26 PM   #1
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Default Leavin' the hook in...

We have had several threads talking about deep hooked bass, so I thought I would post this...

Fishing with Dad yesterday and had a slow day, caught 5 fish all under 15 inches.

The biggest of the day, was 14.5 inches, what made it interesting is when I lipped him I saw, in his throat, a swivel. Upon further examination I could barely see the eye of the hook buried in the back of his throat.

This fish sure gave the appearance of being healthy... he jumped twice on the way in and was very lively...

Now. I have no idea how long ago he was hooked, but he showed no ill effect from the hook. Perhaps it is ok, when all else fails, to just cut low and let it go?

Have you guys seen the same thing? How often? how bad? Ever caught anything with something other than a hook still embedded in it? I know I've seen many fish with evidence of bad hook removals, big holes in the mouth etc...
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Old 08-04-08, 09:39 PM   #2
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I caught a bass with a worm dangleing from his anus and a worm hook in his tongue and a crankbait on the side of his head. I removed the hook / crankbait and worm. He swam away happy.

I caught a punk rock once.


She had two circle hooks deep in her and double rig with weight hooked to her.. Luckly I had a surgeon on board. She swam away happy too.

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Old 08-04-08, 09:41 PM   #3
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Capt Mike, that ain't a fish. That there is a lake monster with gills.
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Old 08-04-08, 10:34 PM   #4
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that is what smith lake in cullman,al. has my friends. grandpa used to catch emlike that. make wonderful steaks on da barbie. nice fish there capt.
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Old 08-04-08, 11:45 PM   #5
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I heard one time that hooks will actually break down/dissolve eventually in a fishes mouth or gullet. My grandfather told me he read it somewhere so I wouldn't swear to it but he never lied to me bout anything else. I have heard the same from other people if you are going to let the fish go and it is hooked deep just cut the line.
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Old 08-05-08, 09:14 AM   #6
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I caught a bass with a worm dangleing from his anus and a worm hook in his tongue and a crankbait on the side of his head. I removed the hook / crankbait and worm. He swam away happy.

I caught a punk rock once.


She had two circle hooks deep in her and double rig with weight hooked to her.. Luckly I had a surgeon on board. She swam away happy too.

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Old 08-05-08, 09:27 AM   #7
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You caught on #4 test with a crappy rig, didn't you?
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Old 08-05-08, 01:35 PM   #8
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I caught one saturday morning, while fishing a tube in deep water, at a pond. She had a 2/0 or 3/0 worm hook still in her throat... hooked very deep, and it was rusty, but she put up a good fight, and was very healthy... apparently healthy enough to eat a 3 1/2" tube on a 3/16 tube head...

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Old 08-05-08, 09:53 PM   #9
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Been plenty of threads on this subject in the past. Best not to leave it in if you can. If you have to then leave a length of line 8"+ or so (half the length of the body) outside the fishes mouth. You wouldn't think so but it's been proven to be the best.
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Been plenty of threads on this subject in the past. Best not to leave it in if you can. If you have to then leave a length of line 8"+ or so (half the length of the body) outside the fishes mouth. You wouldn't think so but it's been proven to be the best.
What would be that reasoning? My guess is to keep it straight in the digestive tract?
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Old 08-06-08, 10:16 AM   #11
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caught a bass with 5 hooks in its mouth 2 plastic baits-other than mine- and they left 3 feet of line on one hook.

i pulled out the baits cut the hooks and let him go..

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caught a bass with 5 hooks in its mouth 2 plastic baits-other than mine- and they left 3 feet of line on one hook.

i pulled out the baits cut the hooks and let him go..

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I know I have left a hook or two with line in a bass but that was due to the line breaking.
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Old 08-06-08, 01:19 PM   #13
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What would be that reasoning? My guess is to keep it straight in the digestive tract?
Very close. It's to keep the hook from blocking the digestive tract.
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Old 08-07-08, 02:39 PM   #14
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Been plenty of threads on this subject in the past. Best not to leave it in if you can. If you have to then leave a length of line 8"+ or so (half the length of the body) outside the fishes mouth. You wouldn't think so but it's been proven to be the best.
I'm not sure I see any sense in leaving 8" of monofilament hanging out of the fishes mouth.

Can you point to any documentation on this?

Seems to me if the fish is hooked deep, it's likely that attempting to get it out will cause more harm than leaving it in. It would seem to me that cutting the line as close to the hook as possible and leaving the hook alone would give the fish the greatest chance for survival.

One other thought. We all tend to remove hooks with line intact. The barb can cause a fair amount of damage exiting in reverse. Sometimes it may make the most sense to cut the line and use pliers to pull from the hook side, pulling the eyelet trough (instead of backing the hook out).
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Old 08-13-08, 01:54 PM   #15
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Research study done on striped bass. Don't have the website but google it. Leaving the line allows for drag and keeps the hook from blocking the throat. The bass that had the hook left in and line cut died due to starvation. The ones that had the line attached survived at a significantly higher survival rate.
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Unfortunately, there is rather conflicting information on this:
http://www.nesportsman.com/articles/article11.shtml
http://www.bassdozer.com/articles/ma...k_in_out.shtml
http://www.a-guide-to-florida-bass-f.../gut-hook.html
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Old 08-13-08, 04:39 PM   #17
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Interesting...That DeArc dehooker can easily be made with a coat hanger. I mean, I'm all for making a buck, but $18 for a bent coat hanger?
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Old 08-13-08, 04:41 PM   #18
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Don't know if it is right or wrong, but if I can't get them out I will cut off as much of the hook as I can. I suspect that the smaller the piece of metal the lower the impact on the fish
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Old 08-14-08, 12:43 PM   #19
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"Foster theorizes that the length of line hanging from the fish's mouth kept the shank flat and allowed food to pass below it. Without the line, food tended to force the hook eye and shank down, which blocked the esophagus. With the shank held flat, the hook may move to one side, allowing the fish to feed."

This is part of the study I mentioned. Read the actually study and make your own decision about leaving the hook in or not.
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we caught one yesterday that had a hook in it and the hook was disolving away in it throut
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