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Old 11-15-11, 07:03 PM   #26
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As for components such as skirts and tied or banded etc, that has nothing to do with if a fish bites the jig or if the jig hooks fish, that stuff does hook a lot of fisherman though. Any decent skirt will look good enough to a bass to pick up a jig. Any decent band should keep a skirt in place for a long time. With that being said, I do like to see tied skirts, they look like top quality, but I don't know that they help in actual fishing conditions. Until now, there were several things that i looked for in a jig, The very first thing was a cross or horizontal line tie. If they had a vertical line tie they were worthless to me, no mater how nice every thing else was. Thats for several reasons. Denny Brauer has preached about cross line ties for many years, he himself said that vertical line ties help to turn a jig to it's side, then the single brush guard finishes it off. Vertical line ties also cause your knot to slide up and down, That cause jigs to swim at angles that are up or down instead of natural.
The 2nd thing i look for is hooks that can be resharpened. Some jigs are now coming out with the chemically sharpened hook points. Those are super sharp, until they hit a rock, then they are trash. Thats fine for my hooks that I use for plastics, but jigs are to expensive to toss in trash when the hook point gets dull from scraping a rock. The last thing I look at is skirts and bands. If i don't like a skirt or it's bands, thats easy to change or fix. I can tie some wire thread next to the band and then snip it off if I want tied skirts. I can replace stock bands with bands that hold rattles. Any of that can be done to enhance a nice jig, so it's not that important to me. I only have 2 of the alpha jigs right now, both of them have a nice skirt that is similar to the Terminator skirts. They are a slide on skirt with built in collar. I did notice on the perfect strike site that some of the jigs had banded skirts, I don't know if that is from 2 different production runs or if that was done to make certain colors that were not available in the one part skirts, I will ask when I call them again. What I do know is that Bo used a hook designed for this bait, it's not a hook that can be bought off the shelf. It has the angle that he found to be the best for his jig head design. That hook is very sharp, but it can be resharpened with a stone. The hook also has the cross line tie, and the head is cam shaped so it does stay upright when you set the hook. I've seen this in his testing machine and in actual fish caught on video. I have also heard it from a friend of my dads that has been using Bo's original design for many years. I hope to keep seeing the same thing in my actual fishing, but that depends on when I get to go again.
I wanted to post a reply to some of the things said in this post, the first being the comment about skirts. IMO, skirts are a big part of how a jig performs, you can choose between basically three types of materials for jig skirts, flat rubber, round rubber and silicone. Each of these have different properties, the silicone skirts have less movement and less flair when the jig is just sitting stationary, the rubber have much more flair to them. The way they are tied is important in some respects also, as a tied skirt will generally have more flair than a band, bands offer the advantage of easy changes and some have rattle holders but you risk them breaking and not having the materials or time to replace a productive color of skirt. In the last several years silicone skirts have become popular because of all of the colors and patterns that a person can choose from, don't think that anyone who has spent much time on the water has not seen a time or two where bass seem to key in a certain color of bait and anything else is just a waste of time. I agree that patterns and colors catch fisherman as much as fish, but if you keep it simple some key colors seem to always produce, PB&J, Blue/Black, Red/Black, Watermelon /Pumpkin and other natural looking colors. Line ties, I have not read the article that you referenced but I have my own experiences that I will share, line ties are made in both orientations because while one may be good for a certain type presentation the other is better for others. Cross type line ties are great for dragging jigs on the bottom, searching and finding the random piece of cover and banging into it. In-line ties are better for hopping jigs, like when you are in a very rocky area and dragging is not as effective, I personally feel they work better for swimming jigs, if you look at most jigs that a made for swimming they generally have a in-line tie.

The bottom line of this is that we all have experiences and opinions about how, why, and when something works better.

I have been around fishing most of my life, and I can't tell you the number of things that have come out over the years that were going to change the way we fished. So excuse me if I am skeptical about things, but in my book, the proof is in the pudding. If these jigs have truly been around for 15 years, what was the point of keeping them a secret, put them in the hands of some big time pros, let them fish and review them, if they are as good as they say then it wont be long before everyone will have to have them to stay competitive.
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Old 11-20-11, 11:19 AM   #29
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#1 was that he said all saftey pin style jigs will fall on there side, the dual frog style hook would always have one point facing up. #2, he said that many bass will not be hooked good with the normal jigs because of how they are prone to laying on the side and slipping to the corner of the mouth or right out of the mouth.
No offense, but this is a total load of BS. Some safety pin style jigs will fall on there side because they use a vertical hook eye. All the jigs I use have a horizontal eye and they fall straight. They almost always hook a bass in the roof of its mouth.

I have fished jigs nearly all my fishing life. I cannot see these working any better than the jigs I currently use.
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Old 11-20-11, 11:54 AM   #30
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No offense, but this is a total load of BS. Some safety pin style jigs will fall on there side because they use a vertical hook eye. All the jigs I use have a horizontal eye and they fall straight. They almost always hook a bass in the roof of its mouth.

I have fished jigs nearly all my fishing life. I cannot see these working any better than the jigs I currently use.
Cam, that quote was from the fishing university guy about the dual hook jigs he was advertising. I agree, I have caught a lot of bass on jigs where I hooked them in the roof of the mouth, especialy if they bite the bait on the fall. As for the perfect strike jig, I don't recall them saying that they think jigs always fall over in a fish's mouth, only that they can easilly fall over and slide through the fish's jaws. The designer of the perfect strike jig made sure to point out that he caught lots and lots of bass on regular jigs before he designed this jig and that the main thing he was trying to do was make one that always turned up, not just some of the time. He also wanted his to be very resistent to snags so that it could be fished in thick cover without losing a bunch of them. I lose a lot of jigs during a season. I was initially impressed with the dual weed guard and then the shape of the head that seems to rotate the jig up anytime it moves over something. I agree with you on the cross line tie 100%. Denny Brauer started talking about that in magazine articles a long time ago. Denny helped to design a jig that uses that cross line tie hook and one point he makes for it is that the vertical tie will slide out of a fishes mouth easier than than a cross line tie. Thats one reason I have always prefered my eakins jigs with a cross line tie. When I saw the perfect strike jigs I was impressed but not convinced. I did some checking on them and found out that they had actually been in use locally for a long time, but never sucsesfully brought to market on a large scale. I heard from someone I trust that told us he uses them and that they are much harder to get snagged and they his experience with them is that they almost always hook the bass securly in the roof of the mouth. I then did the same thing I have done with several other bait companies. I tried to work a deal to help each other advertise and offered to do some reel service for them to get a supply of baits. They sent me abunch of jigs and I will be cleaning some reels for Bo this winter. I do the same thing with Minda Baits, Moaner hooks and triggerfish baits. All of these are baits or hooks that I like to use and therefore I advertise for them and they advertise for me. If you like the looks of any of those baits or the perfect strike jigs, then try them out, if not, then don't. Makes no difference to me and I certainly don't want any hard feelings with anyone here who seem to have been offended that I like a bait that they don't or are sceptical of.
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Old 11-20-11, 12:41 PM   #31
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Hey Tavery, I thought someone should reply to your query regarding the time frame this has been around. Let me explain my position. I am merely a friend and fishing companion of Bo's and not in anyway connected with the sales and promotion of this product. In my initial thread I was only giving my opinion and experience of fishing with this Jig. I am 80 years old and have been fishing since I was 5.

As I understand it, this has been around since the late 80's. When it first hit the market through a trade show in Los Vegas, the initial orders were so massive they overwhelmed the mfg. capacity and capability therefore, things subsequently fell apart. The partners tried to steal all of the rights and patents and it apparently got into one jumbo legal mess. Afterward Bo brought everything back under his control and it was kept rather quite other than with friends and fishing companions. I guess only until now he was able to generate and fianancial interest to get it started again. Don't hold me to this verbatim, but it this is the way I understand it.

You know if I had your address in Goddard I would be willing to send you some Jigs from my supply. They are for the most part Ir's. and misfits from the original production. They may not be very pretty, but I assure you they will get the job done. The one's we use are of the original design and to me personally they are better than the new one's because they have solid guide arms or weed guards and they are of much stiffer material, like weed eater line. I understand that this was changed on the new design, because they felt this concept would or could not be accepted in the mind set of the fishing community. But to me they are better if you have a strong enough hook set. Not only do they got through cover with a stronger faster pace but also act as a locking device to lock the hook in place.

Anyway, excuse my rambling and the grammatical format here, if you are really interested in forming your own opinion on this and trying what we fish with, then I would be glad to send you half dozen, 1/4 to 1/2 and let you test then for yourself.

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Old 11-20-11, 12:52 PM   #32
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Kevin, why would anyone be offended or have hard feelings over the discussion of a bass jig? When anyone makes a broad statement about any topic on this or any other forum, they need to be prepared to defend/explain their position. There were allot of statements about what makes a good jig, nothing wrong with that, but not everyone will agree. Jigs, are a bait that many of have grew up fishing, we all have our own strong opinions about what, when why, and how, and when these opinions are voiced it should not be taken personally, but as an opportunity to learn.

Perfect strike jigs are what this thread is truly about, so this is what I have to offer, most of us have never held one in our hands and to my knowledge none of us have fished one enough in real world conditions to have much experience with them. So it seems to me that what has been posted about them is what others have had to say, and what we have been able to watch in videos.

My problem with a video advertising any product is that if the product did not perform exactly as they claim, do you think they would show you that? I look forward to someone I trust and know, fishing with these jigs and giving a fair and impartial review of exactly how they perform.

Some may think that the fact you trade out your services for materials make you somehow less credible in your opinions on these products, as they would with anyone who is a sponsored advertiser.

I trust and value your opinion, so I would ask that you fish these jigs and after you have caught several fish in various conditions, offer us your review at that point based on your experiences. Let's get away from the media and advertising hype and put these things to the test.

As for me, skeptical yes, offended or have any hard feelings over these discussions, crazy.
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Hey Tavery, I thought someone should reply to your query regarding the time frame this has been around. Let me explain my position. I am merely a friend and fishing companion of Bo's and not in anyway connected with the sales and promotion of this product. In my initial thread I was only giving my opinion and experience of fishing with this Jig. I am 80 years old and have been fishing since I was 5.

As I understand it, this has been around since the late 80's. When it first hit the market through a trade show in Los Vegas, the initial orders were so massive they overwhelmed the mfg. capacity and capability therefore, things subsequently fell apart. The partners tried to steal all of the rights and patents and it apparently got into one jumbo legal mess. Afterward Bo brought everything back under his control and it was kept rather quite other than with friends and fishing companions. I guess only until now he was able to generate and financial interest to get it started again. Don't hold me to this verbatim, but it this is the way I understand it.

You know if I had your address in Goddard I would be willing to send you some Jigs from my supply. They are for the most part Ir's. and misfits from the original production. They may not be very pretty, but I assure you they will get the job done. The one's we use are of the original design and to me personally they are better than the new one's because they have solid guide arms or weed guards and they are of much stiffer material, like weed eater line. I understand that this was changed on the new design, because they felt this concept would or could not be accepted in the mind set of the fishing community. But to me they are better if you have a strong enough hook set. Not only do they got through cover with a stronger faster pace but also act as a locking device to lock the hook in place.

Anyway, excuse my rambling and the grammatical format here, if you are really interested in forming your own opinion on this and trying what we fish with, then I would be glad to send you half dozen, 1/4 to 1/2 and let you test then for yourself.

Sincerely, Bud Welch

Bud, a person with your amount of experience is a rare commodity. I truly appreciate your very generous offer to send me some of these jigs to try and it is very tempting to take you up on it. However, I would feel much better if I purchased the jigs from Bo, and used the same ones that are commercially available to everyone. If anyone is interested at that point I would be glad to offer my impartial review of the jigs.

Again, let me tell you how appreciative I am of you coming here offering your experience and very generous offer. I hope you can find the time to drop in occasionally as share some of your experience with us.

Welcome to the site, look forward to talking with you in the future.
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Thanks for the kindness, I'll pass this along to Bo.
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Cam, that quote was from the fishing university guy about the dual hook jigs he was advertising. I agree, I have caught a lot of bass on jigs where I hooked them in the roof of the mouth, especialy if they bite the bait on the fall. As for the perfect strike jig, I don't recall them saying that they think jigs always fall over in a fish's mouth, only that they can easilly fall over and slide through the fish's jaws. The designer of the perfect strike jig made sure to point out that he caught lots and lots of bass on regular jigs before he designed this jig and that the main thing he was trying to do was make one that always turned up, not just some of the time. He also wanted his to be very resistent to snags so that it could be fished in thick cover without losing a bunch of them. I lose a lot of jigs during a season. I was initially impressed with the dual weed guard and then the shape of the head that seems to rotate the jig up anytime it moves over something. I agree with you on the cross line tie 100%. Denny Brauer started talking about that in magazine articles a long time ago. Denny helped to design a jig that uses that cross line tie hook and one point he makes for it is that the vertical tie will slide out of a fishes mouth easier than than a cross line tie. Thats one reason I have always prefered my eakins jigs with a cross line tie. When I saw the perfect strike jigs I was impressed but not convinced. I did some checking on them and found out that they had actually been in use locally for a long time, but never sucsesfully brought to market on a large scale. I heard from someone I trust that told us he uses them and that they are much harder to get snagged and they his experience with them is that they almost always hook the bass securly in the roof of the mouth. I then did the same thing I have done with several other bait companies. I tried to work a deal to help each other advertise and offered to do some reel service for them to get a supply of baits. They sent me abunch of jigs and I will be cleaning some reels for Bo this winter. I do the same thing with Minda Baits, Moaner hooks and triggerfish baits. All of these are baits or hooks that I like to use and therefore I advertise for them and they advertise for me. If you like the looks of any of those baits or the perfect strike jigs, then try them out, if not, then don't. Makes no difference to me and I certainly don't want any hard feelings with anyone here who seem to have been offended that I like a bait that they don't or are sceptical of.
First of all Kevin, I definitely have no hard feelings about this...believe me. We are talking about a fishing lure, not global warming.

I apologize that I didn't read furthur into this thread to realize that the statement was made by Charlie Ingram. That guy would try to sell snake oil if he that it would make him a buck.
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I like jigs and will throw one when I think it's the best tool for the situation at hand. Over the many years I've been fishing them I rarely put a whole lot of thought into my purchase choices and not much more thought into which one to tie on. Brand name was almost never a consideration, I just wanted a 3/8 or so in a natural color with a light wire hook. Odd I guess considering how particular I've been regarding plugs, wire baits and plastics, not to mention how picky I could be about rods, reels, line, electronics and such.
It has become apparent to me that this bait and this subject has flown under my "radar" or just gets more attention on this (and other) forum(s) than I would have imagined.
For example this thread and it's sister thread hook up ratio with jigs, whats your thoughts and its step sister thread jig rod[ have been viewed 1707 times and commented on 77 times in a little over 10 days. Casually looking over the boards that appears to be some kind of unofficial record. So now I have to decide to add jigs to the list of things I should really think a lot about or just keep reaching in the box and simply grab the first one I see. I think that being presented with new choices and mental processes is why I participate in and read this forum and others like it. Thanks .......Ken
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Old 11-20-11, 07:42 PM   #37
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Can someone post a picture of this jig ? I have been using the all terrain grassmaster jig for years without any problem.I can't imagine needing a different jig but I am always open to learning something new. Here is a picture of the grassmaster jig to compare to.Thank you in advance. PNJ
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Here ya go. I hope these came out good, The one upside down is to show the shape of the head that they call the cam action head.

It didn't come out as good as I hoped, the bottom of the head is actually shaped like part of an octogon with flat spots.
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here is one from there site, lets see if it shows the angles better.
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Thank you for taking the time to post the pictures.I appreciate it.P N J

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kenneth I did get a jig out to you in the mail, Tavery if you give me your info I would be happy to send you one as well.

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I got mine Fri. added some eyes to it! Looks pretty good either way, not so sure about the skirt design? I plan on tossing it into some brushpiles at the lease Tues., will have a better idea then
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