Mental or physical

LubbockFisher · 01-13-09, 11:29 PM

Ok, heres the deal. I have absolutly no luck(catch some but not what i think I should) with the carolina rig, however i have great luck(starting to become a go to bait) by pegging a weight 1-2 foot up on t-rigs. Sort of a car-rig without the swivel and beads. Do you think this is mental or physical?

CMorg · 01-13-09, 11:32 PM

I cant C-Rig either , but I can split shot like a pro....

cassidyta · 01-13-09, 11:33 PM

I think the answer is YES.

You are getting a different action with your set up. Additionally, you now have a line that does not have as much give in it as a normal Carolina rig. I believe you will feel the fish a little better on your rig but may not cover as much area.

Of course, there is a lot to be said for confidence and the mental part. I would think that you fish that rig more because you trust in it. If it is only 25% more than the C-rig it means that you have it in the water 25% more and have more opportunities.

pig_n_jig · 01-14-09, 05:39 AM

You probably are getting bites with the carolina rig.You probably aren't used to feeling the bites that come on a carolina rig.That is why your feeling the smaller fish, they tend to thump the lures.A biggger fish is more subtle. A slight tick is all you'll feel at most, usually just see your line swimming off.

P N J

pig_n_jig · 01-14-09, 04:56 PM

You really need a 3 ft. leader or more for carolina rigging.I know its a pain in the butt having the longer leader, but it will increase your bite ratio.

You also need to PM someone who knows more about it.I am entry level but I am going to do a whole lot more this summer.

P N J

carolina-rig-01 · 01-14-09, 05:11 PM

i would agree that you are probably getting bites on the carolina rig but not feeling them. like pnj said, most of the time it will just feel heavy or kinda mushy.

LubbockFisher · 01-14-09, 06:04 PM

The worst part around here is the mesquit trees.EVERYWHERE. And the pegged weight seems to just work better around them. Dont know if its the size sinker or the fact that it will slip some if it gets caught up. Thanks for the help guys.

abu4600 · 01-14-09, 08:10 PM

Ithink its probably more mental because you have discovered a rig that works for you and you have confidence in it.

carolina-rig-01 · 01-15-09, 03:37 AM

there are situations where certain rigs just work better than others. congratulations on making adjustments until you found something a little different that what everyone else is doing and it's even better that it is working for you. you will probably find another scenerio someday where a carolina rig will work better but fishing is all about adapting and finding something a little different than what everyone else has shown the fish.

The Doc · 01-15-09, 08:32 AM

I'm the same way. I have barely used the C-rig, but my partner this year for the tournaments uses em all the time, so I gotta (being the non-boater) adapt my fishing style for the year. I guess we'll see what happens.

Joel · 01-15-09, 10:31 AM

I'm not by any means a hard core C-Rig fisherman. It's a technique I really don't like throwing all that much, as I find it cumbersome and awkward to cast using a baitcaster. But I do use it in the summertime when I'm looking for deeper fish along creek channels or deep flats. You just can't beat it for covering a lot of water in a controlled manner.

For those that are having problems, make sure you work your C-Rig with your rod with a side arm movement. Same for the hookset. As others have already said, feeling or knowing you've got a bite isn't all that easy. What I've done is go to my standard line: 30 lb Braid/Carolina rig/3 Ft leader of 12-17 lb mono. I can feel everything, and with the no stretch of the braid, the sidearm hookset is easy. It doesn't need a monster hookset to set the hook. Also the Mono or whatever you use for a leader is a lot more abrasive resistant then the braid which simply isn't.

bassthumb32 · 01-15-09, 04:31 PM

If the water is clear i use a mojo weight pegged. I think that the profile of the rig is too much. Like pnj said try a longer leader too.

carolina-rig-01 · 01-15-09, 04:56 PM

a lot of guys will tie a carolina rig so that they use a jig in place of the weight. the theory is that a lot of times a bass will hit the weight which i can believe because of the noise it creates. the jig will give you one more bait in the water. i have done this and have caught fish doing it but for some reason i have gotten away from it.

LubbockFisher · 01-15-09, 05:16 PM

I've been using 20lb braid with 12lb leader with either mono or floro depending if i want it on the bottom or not. I think my problem might be the weight of the c-rig. I may try it with 1/2 or 3/4 weights this year.Have been using 1 ounce. Thinks for all the info guys.

cassidyta · 01-15-09, 05:16 PM

I will use jigs at the bottom of my drop shots from time to time. It has worked for me in the past. Like C-rig, I am not sure why I stopped doing it.

Joel · 01-16-09, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by carolina-rig-01

a lot of guys will tie a carolina rig so that they use a jig in place of the weight. the theory is that a lot of times a bass will hit the weight which i can believe because of the noise it creates. the jig will give you one more bait in the water. i have done this and have caught fish doing it but for some reason i have gotten away from it.

What a great idea. I'm trying to understand how you do this and keep the jig in a parallel line to the C-rig. Seems to me that it will be facing 90 degrees away from the C-rig. Just how do you tie this one up ? Also, wouldn't this method constantly pull the jig on its side as you move the rig forward with your rod ?

01-13-09, 11:29 PM	#1
LubbockFisher BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lubbock Texas Posts: 52	Mental or physical Ok, heres the deal. I have absolutly no luck(catch some but not what i think I should) with the carolina rig, however i have great luck(starting to become a go to bait) by pegging a weight 1-2 foot up on t-rigs. Sort of a car-rig without the swivel and beads. Do you think this is mental or physical?

01-13-09, 11:33 PM	#3
cassidyta BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,928	I think the answer is YES. You are getting a different action with your set up. Additionally, you now have a line that does not have as much give in it as a normal Carolina rig. I believe you will feel the fish a little better on your rig but may not cover as much area. Of course, there is a lot to be said for confidence and the mental part. I would think that you fish that rig more because you trust in it. If it is only 25% more than the C-rig it means that you have it in the water 25% more and have more opportunities. __________________ If you have ever wondered if you should retie, the answer is yes.

01-14-09, 05:39 AM	#4
pig_n_jig BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bath, NY Posts: 361	You probably are getting bites with the carolina rig.You probably aren't used to feeling the bites that come on a carolina rig.That is why your feeling the smaller fish, they tend to thump the lures.A biggger fish is more subtle. A slight tick is all you'll feel at most, usually just see your line swimming off. P N J __________________ Location: Bath, NY...........Whiz-Bang junior pro staff member #OU812

01-14-09, 04:56 PM	#5
pig_n_jig BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bath, NY Posts: 361	You really need a 3 ft. leader or more for carolina rigging.I know its a pain in the butt having the longer leader, but it will increase your bite ratio. You also need to PM someone who knows more about it.I am entry level but I am going to do a whole lot more this summer. P N J __________________ Location: Bath, NY...........Whiz-Bang junior pro staff member #OU812

01-14-09, 05:11 PM	#6
carolina-rig-01 BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Webb City, MO Posts: 6,387	i would agree that you are probably getting bites on the carolina rig but not feeling them. like pnj said, most of the time it will just feel heavy or kinda mushy. __________________ You only live once. But if you do it right, once is enough.

01-13-09, 11:32 PM	#2
CMorg BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Southern , IN Posts: 1,832	I cant C-Rig either , but I can split shot like a pro....

01-14-09, 06:04 PM	#7
LubbockFisher BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lubbock Texas Posts: 52	The worst part around here is the mesquit trees.EVERYWHERE. And the pegged weight seems to just work better around them. Dont know if its the size sinker or the fact that it will slip some if it gets caught up. Thanks for the help guys.

01-14-09, 08:10 PM	#8
abu4600 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Brandon Mississippi Posts: 480	Ithink its probably more mental because you have discovered a rig that works for you and you have confidence in it.

01-15-09, 03:37 AM	#9
carolina-rig-01 BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Webb City, MO Posts: 6,387	there are situations where certain rigs just work better than others. congratulations on making adjustments until you found something a little different that what everyone else is doing and it's even better that it is working for you. you will probably find another scenerio someday where a carolina rig will work better but fishing is all about adapting and finding something a little different than what everyone else has shown the fish. __________________ You only live once. But if you do it right, once is enough.

01-15-09, 08:32 AM	#10
The Doc BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Ft. Bragg, NC Posts: 270	I'm the same way. I have barely used the C-rig, but my partner this year for the tournaments uses em all the time, so I gotta (being the non-boater) adapt my fishing style for the year. I guess we'll see what happens. __________________ In the absence of orders, find something and kill it. Unk, 82nd ABN WWII

01-15-09, 10:31 AM	#11
Joel BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Suffolk County, NY Posts: 542	I'm not by any means a hard core C-Rig fisherman. It's a technique I really don't like throwing all that much, as I find it cumbersome and awkward to cast using a baitcaster. But I do use it in the summertime when I'm looking for deeper fish along creek channels or deep flats. You just can't beat it for covering a lot of water in a controlled manner. For those that are having problems, make sure you work your C-Rig with your rod with a side arm movement. Same for the hookset. As others have already said, feeling or knowing you've got a bite isn't all that easy. What I've done is go to my standard line: 30 lb Braid/Carolina rig/3 Ft leader of 12-17 lb mono. I can feel everything, and with the no stretch of the braid, the sidearm hookset is easy. It doesn't need a monster hookset to set the hook. Also the Mono or whatever you use for a leader is a lot more abrasive resistant then the braid which simply isn't. __________________ Joel 1st you have to find 'em

01-15-09, 04:31 PM	#12
bassthumb32 BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Fort Loudon, PA Posts: 682	If the water is clear i use a mojo weight pegged. I think that the profile of the rig is too much. Like pnj said try a longer leader too. __________________ MY LIFETIME GOAL IS TO KEEP AT LEAST A SMALL CASE OF BASSTHUMB FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.

01-15-09, 04:56 PM	#13
carolina-rig-01 BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Webb City, MO Posts: 6,387	a lot of guys will tie a carolina rig so that they use a jig in place of the weight. the theory is that a lot of times a bass will hit the weight which i can believe because of the noise it creates. the jig will give you one more bait in the water. i have done this and have caught fish doing it but for some reason i have gotten away from it. __________________ You only live once. But if you do it right, once is enough.

01-15-09, 05:16 PM	#14
LubbockFisher BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lubbock Texas Posts: 52	I've been using 20lb braid with 12lb leader with either mono or floro depending if i want it on the bottom or not. I think my problem might be the weight of the c-rig. I may try it with 1/2 or 3/4 weights this year.Have been using 1 ounce. Thinks for all the info guys.

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