The difference between light and dark water. - Page 2

bingham · 04-23-09, 11:57 AM

CCBass, thats why i said what i said, your not very good with this read then post thing, both of the comments i made you have tried to make it sound like something its not, why? referring to the one about your statement of "bass tanning" and the one i made about you being brilliant. can you answer that?

bingham · 04-23-09, 11:58 AM

maybe you should start making posts in the daytime instead of in the middle of the night, that could be the problem...

CCbass · 04-24-09, 06:30 AM

True bingham, I read above, assumed and took it wrong while reading further down the list. My fault, thanks.

bingham · 04-25-09, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CCbass

True bingham, I read above, assumed and took it wrong while reading further down the list. My fault, thanks.

no problem bud

BassMoJo · 04-24-09, 07:39 AM

I feel like a dumber person after reading this theard

bingham · 04-25-09, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BassMoJo

I feel like a dumber person after reading this theard

haha we see lol

BigBassin144 · 08-27-09, 07:59 PM

When I saw this, I though whoever dug this POS thread up better have a dang good reason...

I guess cheezburger is good enough considering the rest of the thread...

BB

MallenManson · 08-27-09, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBassin144

When I saw this, I though whoever dug this POS thread up better have a dang good reason...

I guess cheezburger is good enough considering the rest of the thread...

BB

zooker started it.....and i must say....i feel dirty just reading it. but the cheeseburger photo kept me from swallowing razor blades.

zooker · 08-27-09, 10:57 PM

me???

don't drag me into your gutter..

zooker

MallenManson · 08-28-09, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by zooker

me???

don't drag me into your gutter..

zooker

Moi? You jumped right in with me! BTW....in case we ever make it out of here, next time, untie the rope ladder so it falls down in and we can make it back out

WTL · 08-28-09, 07:14 AM

Every now and then....check that...quite often - I regret things that I post here that might push some line or boundary.

I'm not sure if I think the "harbls" picture is worth regretting or not. On one hand, it is very topical given the nature of the discussion up until that point. And it was funny. Bawdy and disgusting, but funny.

On the other hand, its also pretty sick.

MallenManson · 08-28-09, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WTL

Every now and then....check that...quite often - I regret things that I post here that might push some line or boundary.

I'm not sure if I think the "harbls" picture is worth regretting or not. On one hand, it is very topical given the nature of the discussion up until that point. And it was funny. Bawdy and disgusting, but funny.

On the other hand, its also pretty sick.

The fact that you're unsure = great reason for regret.

Patrick Krueger, Jr. · 08-28-09, 09:16 AM

You guys were not happy with this ccbass fella, huh? I was surprised to see you vets come down so hard on him. I guess I can't blame you, the guy seemed a tad arrogant with the "for the young posters" line and then managed to make make no sense whatsoever, especially in his first posting.

Next time I go to that clear, dark, green lake I'm gonna' throw my flat-colored bluegill crankbaits (or was it the other way around?). Clearly, obscurity clarifies the confusion.

nofearengineer · 08-28-09, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick Krueger, Jr.

Clearly, obscurity clarifies the confusion.

Don't forget obfuscation!!

I found that whole thread hilarious, being the debater I am. I love language, and I am always fighting to preserve ours. Believe me it is beset on all sides by the lackadaisical at best, and the deliberate at worst.

To satirize the original thread:

I will from now on say that dark means light, and light means dark. I will even encourage beginners to take part in my redefinition of the terms. If you guys don't like that, obviously you are not smart enough to understand my rationale. It isn't that you just disagree with it; it's that you're not smart enough...yeah, that's it. I mean, there's no logical reason why things light doesn't reach are called "dark", and things that are well-lit are called "light". Let's all tear down this artificial construct of English language!!!

Enough already?

MallenManson · 08-28-09, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick Krueger, Jr.

You guys were not happy with this ccbass fella, huh? I was surprised to see you vets come down so hard on him. I guess I can't blame you, the guy seemed a tad arrogant with the "for the young posters" line and then managed to make make no sense whatsoever, especially in his first posting.

Next time I go to that clear, dark, green lake I'm gonna' throw my flat-colored bluegill crankbaits (or was it the other way around?). Clearly, obscurity clarifies the confusion.

Myself, and not that I'm one of the vets, I'm a newbie, have never really dealt with ccbass before. Other than the time one of my favorite posters told me he was gonna hang someone from the tallest tree and directed me to a thread.

All I know is, if my "source" says he's a dewtchbag, then so be it. Until said dewtchbag proves him wrong.

BlueDaksi · 01-30-10, 10:04 PM

I just told nofearengineer in a pm that I had decided NOT to comment on this confusing thread because I thought that "You can't fix that kind of broke." However, being the sucker for a challenge that I am, I can't resist. I'm ignoring all previous posts on this thread and am only posting to assist the innocent bystanders like myself who are now thoroughly confused...

I believe that there are two main issues being confused here, water clarity, and light conditions. Forget about color reflecting off the surface of the water because it really doesn't really matter that much (although lure color does). I'm also not going to discuss much what these issues mean from the perspective of a bass just to keep it simple, but will refer to a great article for further reading.

Clarity is the distance that you can see into the water. Clarity is affected by dissolved substances or suspended solids (turbidity) that reduce the distance you can see an object in the water. You can measure this with a secchi disk, but most of us fishermen don't often carry one around with us all of the time, so we go by rule of thumb. A good rule of thumb, from the least amount of clarity to most is muddy, dingy, stained, clear, and gin-clear.

Light conditions are something else, although their effects can be related (I'll explain in a moment). Light condition is how much light there is at a particular location, from brightest to... ...darkest (yup, I said it...), from direct sunlight, to shade and the dark conditions that you find early morning or late evening (and night...).

The interaction of water clarity and light conditions can have an impact on fishing. For example, clear water in sunny conditions is going to require a different approach than clear water in shaded conditions. Most of us given the choice between these two conditions are probably going to target the shady spots when the sun is out on clear water...

However, you might think that in low water clarity conditions, let's say muddy water, that light wouldn't matter. This answer depends to some degree on what is making the water turbid, but sometimes these conditions can be horrible for fishing because if light is able to penetrate into the water (even if you can't see through it light can still penetrate into it...), it can make for some very uncomfortable conditions for fish. Consider driving in fog or hazy conditions. If there is cloud cover, you can't see that far ahead of you so you have to slow down a bit. However, if there is bright light mixed in with the fog and haze, it can be downright painful to see in those conditions. It's the same for bass except they don't drive and they are under water...

So, now that you all probably think I'm nuts, here's a link to a useful article related to this topic - http://www.bassresource.com/beginner...selection.html

nofearengineer · 01-30-10, 10:12 PM

Oh god, you done did it now.

bcklash · 01-30-10, 10:38 PM

Oh no he didn't

BeaverIslander · 01-30-10, 11:56 PM

Wow. This one needs to go away.

bamabassman · 01-31-10, 12:52 AM

Blue..........things like this needs to stay gone pal. Like GONE. Hahahahaha. Nice read though for real.

MississippiBoy · 01-31-10, 05:24 PM

What should be done to this thread.....

CCbass · 04-19-09, 03:44 AM

WTL I stated it relays to lure choice and water color, I also stated what colors I use when. The only arguement was in fact what I see as light and dark as far as water color. JB do you really want me to count spelling errors on this sight, I don't have that much time.

JB · 04-19-09, 08:23 AM

drac, I know its daylight now and you won't see this till its dark again, but do you even bass fish anymore? we never hear of any fishing reports from you.......

04-23-09, 11:57 AM	#1
bingham BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cottondale, AL Posts: 323	CCBass, thats why i said what i said, your not very good with this read then post thing, both of the comments i made you have tried to make it sound like something its not, why? referring to the one about your statement of "bass tanning" and the one i made about you being brilliant. can you answer that? __________________ EAT, SLEEP, FISH

04-23-09, 11:58 AM	#2
bingham BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cottondale, AL Posts: 323	maybe you should start making posts in the daytime instead of in the middle of the night, that could be the problem... __________________ EAT, SLEEP, FISH

04-24-09, 07:39 AM	#5
BassMoJo BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hampstead, MD Posts: 801	I feel like a dumber person after reading this theard __________________ This is my Signature there are many like it, but this one is mine.

08-27-09, 07:59 PM	#7
BigBassin144 BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 9,463	When I saw this, I though whoever dug this POS thread up better have a dang good reason... I guess cheezburger is good enough considering the rest of the thread... BB __________________ As of June 14, 2014 the members of the BF.com forum have moved to basschat.yuku.com!

08-27-09, 10:57 PM	#9
zooker BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: denton nc Posts: 13,441	me??? don't drag me into your gutter.. zooker __________________ the godfather.. aml in remission since 7-20-09

04-24-09, 06:30 AM	#3
CCbass BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Monterey CA Posts: 253	True bingham, I read above, assumed and took it wrong while reading further down the list. My fault, thanks.

08-28-09, 07:14 AM	#11
WTL BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntsville, Al Posts: 7,466	Every now and then....check that...quite often - I regret things that I post here that might push some line or boundary. I'm not sure if I think the "harbls" picture is worth regretting or not. On one hand, it is very topical given the nature of the discussion up until that point. And it was funny. Bawdy and disgusting, but funny. On the other hand, its also pretty sick. __________________ Selling live waterdogs for less since 2005.

08-28-09, 09:16 AM	#13
Patrick Krueger, Jr. BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kenosha, WI Posts: 567	You guys were not happy with this ccbass fella, huh? I was surprised to see you vets come down so hard on him. I guess I can't blame you, the guy seemed a tad arrogant with the "for the young posters" line and then managed to make make no sense whatsoever, especially in his first posting. Next time I go to that clear, dark, green lake I'm gonna' throw my flat-colored bluegill crankbaits (or was it the other way around?). Clearly, obscurity clarifies the confusion. __________________ The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. - John Buchan

01-30-10, 10:04 PM	#16
BlueDaksi BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 148	I just told nofearengineer in a pm that I had decided NOT to comment on this confusing thread because I thought that "You can't fix that kind of broke." However, being the sucker for a challenge that I am, I can't resist. I'm ignoring all previous posts on this thread and am only posting to assist the innocent bystanders like myself who are now thoroughly confused... I believe that there are two main issues being confused here, water clarity, and light conditions. Forget about color reflecting off the surface of the water because it really doesn't really matter that much (although lure color does). I'm also not going to discuss much what these issues mean from the perspective of a bass just to keep it simple, but will refer to a great article for further reading. Clarity is the distance that you can see into the water. Clarity is affected by dissolved substances or suspended solids (turbidity) that reduce the distance you can see an object in the water. You can measure this with a secchi disk, but most of us fishermen don't often carry one around with us all of the time, so we go by rule of thumb. A good rule of thumb, from the least amount of clarity to most is muddy, dingy, stained, clear, and gin-clear. Light conditions are something else, although their effects can be related (I'll explain in a moment). Light condition is how much light there is at a particular location, from brightest to... ...darkest (yup, I said it...), from direct sunlight, to shade and the dark conditions that you find early morning or late evening (and night...). The interaction of water clarity and light conditions can have an impact on fishing. For example, clear water in sunny conditions is going to require a different approach than clear water in shaded conditions. Most of us given the choice between these two conditions are probably going to target the shady spots when the sun is out on clear water... However, you might think that in low water clarity conditions, let's say muddy water, that light wouldn't matter. This answer depends to some degree on what is making the water turbid, but sometimes these conditions can be horrible for fishing because if light is able to penetrate into the water (even if you can't see through it light can still penetrate into it...), it can make for some very uncomfortable conditions for fish. Consider driving in fog or hazy conditions. If there is cloud cover, you can't see that far ahead of you so you have to slow down a bit. However, if there is bright light mixed in with the fog and haze, it can be downright painful to see in those conditions. It's the same for bass except they don't drive and they are under water... So, now that you all probably think I'm nuts, here's a link to a useful article related to this topic - http://www.bassresource.com/beginner...selection.html __________________ -Paul Shipman, Ph.D., Team FishGator.com, Team Malibu Kayaks Pro-Staff Last edited by BlueDaksi; 01-30-10 at 10:10 PM.

01-30-10, 10:12 PM	#17
nofearengineer BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southwest IN Posts: 5,630	Oh god, you done did it now. __________________ Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after.

01-30-10, 10:38 PM	#18
bcklash BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Elliston, Va. Posts: 4,372	Oh no he didn't __________________ The soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box. keep us free:

01-30-10, 11:56 PM	#19
BeaverIslander BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: St. Cloud, Minnesota Posts: 275	Wow. This one needs to go away.

01-31-10, 12:52 AM	#20
bamabassman BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: cedar bluff, alabama Posts: 15,292	Blue..........things like this needs to stay gone pal. Like GONE. Hahahahaha. Nice read though for real. __________________ so many lures, so little time.

01-31-10, 05:24 PM	#21
MississippiBoy BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ridgeland MS Posts: 3,923	What should be done to this thread..... __________________ I smell smoke, and I hear sirens. Do you think that's a problem?

04-19-09, 03:44 AM	#22
CCbass BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Monterey CA Posts: 253	WTL I stated it relays to lure choice and water color, I also stated what colors I use when. The only arguement was in fact what I see as light and dark as far as water color. JB do you really want me to count spelling errors on this sight, I don't have that much time.

04-19-09, 08:23 AM	#23
JB BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,655	drac, I know its daylight now and you won't see this till its dark again, but do you even bass fish anymore? we never hear of any fishing reports from you.......

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