Confession

joedog · 01-10-12, 12:42 PM

One of my motivations for posting the below mentioned thread was to kind of show everyone maybe why Ike is Ike.
Kind of obvious that negativity sells, wouldn't you agree?
Started this as a new thread because I thought it may get lost or not read in one of the originals, especially mine. Seems few care how to improve things rather just complaining seems to make some feel better.

I know the original thread was up longer but I'm thinking my thread isn't going to make up the difference of 832 visits in a 2 week time frame or 42 replies.
Now if you were a sponsor would you be happier getting your name in front of 1050 potential clients or 200 ?

I guess thier right, negativity SELLS!
Negative publicity is better than no publicity at all.
I would even venture to say, many of you even know his sponsors and don't know other's sponsors.
Look how many new lures are coming to market with Ike's name associated with them. Alot more than past years.
Ike has a good business plan that seems to work.

Oh and I didn't put Ike's name in my thread title intentionally. The mention of Ike's name draws ATTENTION. Isn't that the purpose of advertising?

Anyway, everyone have a great time fishing!

original
http://www.bassfishin.com/bassfishin...&highlight=Ike 1050 visits...50 replies

Mine
http://www.bassfishin.com/bassfishin...&highlight=Ike 207 visits...8 replies

nofearengineer · 01-10-12, 01:31 PM

I agree with you, Joe. However, every one of you that likes his little tantrums needs to ask yourself if you want to see tourneys turn into Jersey Shore. That'll be awesome, huh?

wallywallace · 01-10-12, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nofearengineer

I agree with you, Joe. However, every one of you that likes his little tantrums needs to ask yourself if you want to see tourneys turn into Jersey Shore. That'll be awesome, huh?

i about spit my drink at the screen, lmao

joedog · 01-10-12, 02:36 PM

I'm not stating that I do or don't like Ike.
I was just bringing to point why certain things are allowed while others aren't.
I was also bringing up the fact that we as humans (me included) love to b**** as opposed to taking action.
nofear, would you not watch a televised tourney because you heard Ike was participating?
Many would watch guaranteed, if they knew Ike was going to act up.
Fishing is BIG BIG business today and unfortunatly not the beloved hobby we grew up with.
Can anyone tell me of a kid who recently started fishing and used a stick with some line tied to the end with a hook, and a worm dug out of thier mom's garden?
Thats how I started. No one that I ever even heard about had a fishing boat that cost more than a house or even a car for that matter.
$20 would last me a month or maybe a summer. Now...... a Yellow Popper.
$20 got me six Rapalas, maybe more. Now......a Lucky Craft pointer or 2 Rapalas.
Unfortunately once money gets into the equation so does questionable behavior.
I love the advances of technology and what they have brought to fishing. I love to catch fish. I love just fishing!
But I also love the simplicity of the old days!

Now this whole thread was my attempt at being the DEVILS advocate not to criticize or even comment on anyone's feelings.
Incidently, there are alot more sponsors bidding on commercial time with Jersey Shore than Bill Dance. I personally will never understand how Jersey Shore even became a show......oh ya, negativity sells.

I want to ask a favor from everyone.....Will you please all have a GREAT DAY!

Tavery5 · 01-10-12, 03:50 PM

Here is something to think about. Most bass fishing shows last 1 hour, after you take time for the Evan Williams, Humminbird, and various other commercials that leaves about 30 minutes of actual fishing coverage. During the coverage they jump from boat to boat covering the leaders and others that are making a run, or have just caught a nice fish. When I see them cover IKE it is usually him break dancing on the bow of his boat, screamin monster when he catches a 2lb fish, or breaking stuff. Ashame that the time he actually get on air is more about his antics than his ability to fish.

bamabassman · 01-10-12, 06:06 PM

i agrree with taves on tis one. wouldn't it be nice ot actually WATCH their techinuque rather than the "antics" or highlights? yeah,yeah,yeah....it may be boring tv, but to a TRUE angler, it is gold.

ike i s fantastic fisherman, no doubt about it. and the REAL reson he is shown doing his "antics" is it sells. jsut like sex sells everything form soap, to drain cleaner. that is how STUPID we the public is. we buy into it everytime.

hootie · 01-11-12, 07:58 AM

When I see a 40 year old throwing a 3 year old temper tantrum, I find it repulsive. C'mon, why did you just deliberately break that $500.00 rod and throw the whole rig into the lake. If I threw my stuff away every time I lost a fish, CRAP, I wouldn't have anything to fish with!! But then, I guess it doesn't really matter if you don't have to pay for the stuff.
Just my thoughts.
Hootie

Culpritworm7.5 · 01-18-12, 09:07 PM

Mark Zona is cool when he freaks!

Why can't Ike do that?

keithdog · 01-19-12, 12:03 AM

I have to admit Joe, even though I dislike Ikes antics, I do understand what your trying to say here. Like it or not, good or bad, his antics draw attention. And advertisers will utilize it. Kind of like a train/car wreck. You don't want to see it, it makes your stomic turn, but ya gotta look. This running discussion of Ike and his type of behaviors has drawn a lot of comments through a couple threads. That pretty much says it all. If the like or hate Ike posts drew no interrest, then the story line would quickly die. But it doesn't. Thinking about Ike and his behaviors reminds me of the great Mohammad Ali. Cacious Clay for those of us my age or older. He was villified and hated by many many people for his loud mouth hysterics and antics in the ring. There were other issues with him as well that drew hatred such as race, religion, and draft dodging. Yet today he is a beloved and respected legend in the eyes of most people today. And through it all, Ali always drew great interrest wherever he went.

kennethdaysale · 01-19-12, 12:28 AM

I think today is Ali's BDay.....they say he has parkinsons..course could be the ol rope a dope

Bubba_Bruiser · 01-19-12, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nofearengineer

I agree with you, Joe. However, every one of you that likes his little tantrums needs to ask yourself if you want to see tourneys turn into Jersey Shore. That'll be awesome, huh?

If Snookie is there, pencil me in!!!

Ranger Guy · 01-19-12, 09:32 AM

Yea I liked ike when he first started you know young guy moving up in the bassing world but his antics are really too much. Now he acts more like a spoiled brat then a true Professional. Although in all sports you have to have your Kevin Van Dams & your ikes. Heros & Whiners make sports tolerable I guess. It does give viewers something to talk about just like keith said.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubba_Bruiser

If Snookie is there, pencil me in!!!

Too much booty, Too much mouth! LoL!

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bassboogieman · 01-19-12, 10:22 AM

Snookie? Without all the crap she puts on her face she's just a plain skank, rather than a "cutie" skank.

Ranger Guy · 01-19-12, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassboogieman

Snookie? Without all the crap she puts on her face she's just a plain skank, rather than a "cutie" skank.

Hmm, so lures & make-up do the same job, only for different species? Very interesting.....lol

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Bubba_Bruiser · 01-19-12, 12:00 PM

"Too much booty, Too much mouth! LoL!"

And your point is???? HAHAHAHA!!! I promised myself I would not gutter ball this one, so I will leave it at that.

01-10-12, 12:42 PM	#1
joedog BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: JANESVILLE,WI. 53545 Posts: 3,415	Confession One of my motivations for posting the below mentioned thread was to kind of show everyone maybe why Ike is Ike. Kind of obvious that negativity sells, wouldn't you agree? Started this as a new thread because I thought it may get lost or not read in one of the originals, especially mine. Seems few care how to improve things rather just complaining seems to make some feel better. I know the original thread was up longer but I'm thinking my thread isn't going to make up the difference of 832 visits in a 2 week time frame or 42 replies. Now if you were a sponsor would you be happier getting your name in front of 1050 potential clients or 200 ? I guess thier right, negativity SELLS! Negative publicity is better than no publicity at all. I would even venture to say, many of you even know his sponsors and don't know other's sponsors. Look how many new lures are coming to market with Ike's name associated with them. Alot more than past years. Ike has a good business plan that seems to work. Oh and I didn't put Ike's name in my thread title intentionally. The mention of Ike's name draws ATTENTION. Isn't that the purpose of advertising? Anyway, everyone have a great time fishing! original http://www.bassfishin.com/bassfishin...&highlight=Ike 1050 visits...50 replies Mine http://www.bassfishin.com/bassfishin...&highlight=Ike 207 visits...8 replies __________________ "Fishing isn't life or death... it's more important than that."

01-10-12, 01:31 PM	#2
nofearengineer BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southwest IN Posts: 5,630	I agree with you, Joe. However, every one of you that likes his little tantrums needs to ask yourself if you want to see tourneys turn into Jersey Shore. That'll be awesome, huh? __________________ Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after.

01-10-12, 02:36 PM	#4
joedog BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: JANESVILLE,WI. 53545 Posts: 3,415	I'm not stating that I do or don't like Ike. I was just bringing to point why certain things are allowed while others aren't. I was also bringing up the fact that we as humans (me included) love to b**** as opposed to taking action. nofear, would you not watch a televised tourney because you heard Ike was participating? Many would watch guaranteed, if they knew Ike was going to act up. Fishing is BIG BIG business today and unfortunatly not the beloved hobby we grew up with. Can anyone tell me of a kid who recently started fishing and used a stick with some line tied to the end with a hook, and a worm dug out of thier mom's garden? Thats how I started. No one that I ever even heard about had a fishing boat that cost more than a house or even a car for that matter. $20 would last me a month or maybe a summer. Now...... a Yellow Popper. $20 got me six Rapalas, maybe more. Now......a Lucky Craft pointer or 2 Rapalas. Unfortunately once money gets into the equation so does questionable behavior. I love the advances of technology and what they have brought to fishing. I love to catch fish. I love just fishing! But I also love the simplicity of the old days! Now this whole thread was my attempt at being the DEVILS advocate not to criticize or even comment on anyone's feelings. Incidently, there are alot more sponsors bidding on commercial time with Jersey Shore than Bill Dance. I personally will never understand how Jersey Shore even became a show......oh ya, negativity sells. I want to ask a favor from everyone.....Will you please all have a GREAT DAY! __________________ "Fishing isn't life or death... it's more important than that."

01-10-12, 03:50 PM	#5
Tavery5 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 2,427	Here is something to think about. Most bass fishing shows last 1 hour, after you take time for the Evan Williams, Humminbird, and various other commercials that leaves about 30 minutes of actual fishing coverage. During the coverage they jump from boat to boat covering the leaders and others that are making a run, or have just caught a nice fish. When I see them cover IKE it is usually him break dancing on the bow of his boat, screamin monster when he catches a 2lb fish, or breaking stuff. Ashame that the time he actually get on air is more about his antics than his ability to fish. __________________ They call me Ishmael

01-10-12, 06:06 PM	#6
bamabassman BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: cedar bluff, alabama Posts: 15,292	i agrree with taves on tis one. wouldn't it be nice ot actually WATCH their techinuque rather than the "antics" or highlights? yeah,yeah,yeah....it may be boring tv, but to a TRUE angler, it is gold. ike i s fantastic fisherman, no doubt about it. and the REAL reson he is shown doing his "antics" is it sells. jsut like sex sells everything form soap, to drain cleaner. that is how STUPID we the public is. we buy into it everytime. __________________ so many lures, so little time.

01-11-12, 07:58 AM	#7
hootie BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 15	When I see a 40 year old throwing a 3 year old temper tantrum, I find it repulsive. C'mon, why did you just deliberately break that $500.00 rod and throw the whole rig into the lake. If I threw my stuff away every time I lost a fish, CRAP, I wouldn't have anything to fish with!! But then, I guess it doesn't really matter if you don't have to pay for the stuff. Just my thoughts. Hootie

01-18-12, 09:07 PM	#8
Culpritworm7.5 BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 24	Mark Zona is cool when he freaks! Why can't Ike do that?

01-19-12, 12:03 AM	#9
keithdog BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: IN Posts: 8,308	I have to admit Joe, even though I dislike Ikes antics, I do understand what your trying to say here. Like it or not, good or bad, his antics draw attention. And advertisers will utilize it. Kind of like a train/car wreck. You don't want to see it, it makes your stomic turn, but ya gotta look. This running discussion of Ike and his type of behaviors has drawn a lot of comments through a couple threads. That pretty much says it all. If the like or hate Ike posts drew no interrest, then the story line would quickly die. But it doesn't. Thinking about Ike and his behaviors reminds me of the great Mohammad Ali. Cacious Clay for those of us my age or older. He was villified and hated by many many people for his loud mouth hysterics and antics in the ring. There were other issues with him as well that drew hatred such as race, religion, and draft dodging. Yet today he is a beloved and respected legend in the eyes of most people today. And through it all, Ali always drew great interrest wherever he went. __________________ Just one more cast, and then some!

01-19-12, 12:28 AM	#10
kennethdaysale BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: rock hill, sc Posts: 2,315	I think today is Ali's BDay.....they say he has parkinsons..course could be the ol rope a dope __________________ Sometimes you gotta risk it to get the biscuit.

01-19-12, 10:22 AM	#13
bassboogieman BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Parkesburg, Pa. Posts: 3,762	Snookie? Without all the crap she puts on her face she's just a plain skank, rather than a "cutie" skank.

01-19-12, 12:00 PM	#15
Bubba_Bruiser BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South MS Posts: 3,659	"Too much booty, Too much mouth! LoL!" And your point is???? HAHAHAHA!!! I promised myself I would not gutter ball this one, so I will leave it at that. __________________ \,,,,/ ROCK ON! HRN4L!

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