Chatterbait, or spinnerbait?

[Bassboss]

Which do you prefer to use around hyrilla + clear water (10'-15' visibility is my guess) I know that a lot of vibration is not not good for fishing clear water, and a lot of vibration is what a chattbait has. But I also know that people really like them for fishing, in and around hyrilla. Spinnerbaits are good for every where, and are not much a specialty bait IMO. Also you can choose how much vibration you have.

Do some chatter blades have more than the other?

Click here to see the pond.

Thanks,

~SJ

[bassackwards]

i like rage tale frog or shad

[Bassboss]

btw that par of the pond in the pic is only a small bit of the it, it thins out to only a few patches ever 10-20 yards or so. Also the mats are not as big, they range from a 6' diameter to a 1/2' diameter. But their are "gardens" if you will of my hyrilla on the bottom. They pond is 1' to 15'-17' at the most, averaging 5'-9' With 10' to 13' drop offs not uncommon.

To see other pics click there>> pond , pond , pond

[bamabassman]

BUZZ IT MAN. then frog it, spinner it. pop-r it, spook it. get the idea? then try the lizard without a weight. texas rig, no weight.

[Bassboss]

Originally Posted by bamabassman

BUZZ IT MAN. then frog it, spinner it. pop-r it, spook it. get the idea? then try the lizard without a weight. texas rig, no weight.

Never had luck with the buzz bait? Don't know why? Buzz frogs work better though, more weedless also.

I'll havta get some lizards, what color? Watermelon sounds good!

[Bassboss]

Originally Posted by bamabassman

BUZZ IT MAN. then frog it, spinner it. pop-r it, spook it. get the idea? then try the lizard without a weight. texas rig, no weight.

Also why no weight? Is it because if I don't it will get caught in the hyrilla? I don't think I can cast that on my BC, should I add a split shot at least?

Thanks again!

[bamabassman]

no weight cause it to look more naturel i think falling. more alive as well in shallow water, less hangups too. my favorites are zoom...punking seed with a chartruse tail, faded a little (let it fade for a day in the sun, bothsides), the other color i like is june bug. you should be able to cast it with your bait caster, i do.

[Bassboss]

Originally Posted by bamabassman

no weight cause it to look more naturel i think falling. more alive as well in shallow water, less hangups too. my favorites are zoom...punking seed with a chartruse tail, faded a little (let it fade for a day in the sun, bothsides), the other color i like is june bug. you should be able to cast it with your bait caster, i do.

What size hook? 5/0 for the extra weight?

[bamabassman]

i use a 4, mostly. 5 is good too. either way is ok. just don't jerk it all over the place. make it look like it is eating as it goes so to speak. lizards are notorious for eating bass eggs. that is why bass can't stand em in their beds. crawdads too.

[abu4600]

I would go with the spinnerbait w/double willow blades and reel it pretty fast to try to get a reaction strike.

[Bassboss]

Originally Posted by bamabassman

i use a 4, mostly. 5 is good too. either way is ok. just don't jerk it all over the place. make it look like it is eating as it goes so to speak. lizards are notorious for eating bass eggs. that is why bass can't stand em in their beds. crawdads too.

Great tips so far bama! Keep 'em coming!

Thanks, to Abu also!

[BigBassin144]

Between spinnerbiat and chatterbait, I'd go spinner. Having vibration isn't bad, but its important you have flash in clear water (willow blades), and it if hard to have a lot of both. Anyways, I'd stay away from the chatterbait for one reason, the weeds. It will hang in the weeds a lot more, and it may effect the action of the blades. The spinnerbait would be one of my first choises for sub-water fishing here. for topwater, definately a frog. Spro bronzeye for hollow body, and Rage Tail Toad or Zoom Horny toad for other frogs.

BB

[CMorg]

Originally Posted by bamabassman

BUZZ IT MAN. then frog it, spinner it. pop-r it, spook it. get the idea? then try the lizard without a weight. texas rig, no weight.

Id take a differant approach , Top , Middle , Bottom.
Top - Buzzbait , Pop R , Frog , Spook
Middle - Crankbait , spinnerbait , chatterbait
Bottom - T-Rig worm , Jig.

Id hit one batch of grass on top , then move to another one , and another one , then id go back to the first and get the middle , so on , so on...

[aikenyounggun]

i like a spinnerbait but after looking at the pond go get a frog and throw it.... drag it over the grass and the holes between the grass... the fish will blow up in the grass or in the open water..... on the lizard thing go with pumpkin seed with a chartreuse tail... you can buy the dip it chartreuse stuff and redip the tails yourself b/c the tails bleed out the color and the dip it gives a sent and a stronger look

[Bassboss]

Originally Posted by aikenyounggun

i like a spinnerbait but after looking at the pond go get a frog and throw it.... drag it over the grass and the holes between the grass... the fish will blow up in the grass or in the open water..... on the lizard thing go with pumpkin seed with a chartreuse tail... you can buy the dip it chartreuse stuff and redip the tails yourself b/c the tails bleed out the color and the dip it gives a sent and a stronger look

Thanks, I had a bass blow through the weeds to get my spro frog, it was the most bad *** top water strike I've ever see, much less experienced!

I'll try so JJ's magic for a dip. It adds die and sent, put it in on youtube, the videos are very impressive!

JJ's magic video

As matter of fact I got my first pack of baby brush hogs b/c of this video!

[garry_3000]

Take an 3/4 oz weight and peg it to your bait and pitch it around the holes or dead in the middle of the matt. The big ones will jerk the rod out of your hand so be ready.

[Bassboss]

Originally Posted by garry_3000

Take an 3/4 oz weight and peg it to your bait and pitch it around the holes or dead in the middle of the matt. The big ones will jerk the rod out of your hand so be ready.

I thought about doing that, but never got around to it, and + I don't think I have any weights over 1/2oz, I'll try to someone to take me to wallart so I can get some 3/4oz weights and a few packs of zoom worms.

How do you think a stander size brush hog will work for pitching inside weed mats?

[bamabassman]

all this is great advice. really is. i like cmorg's approach very much.

[Bassboss]

Originally Posted by bamabassman

all this is great advice. really is. i like cmorg's approach very much.

Thanks for all the help, I feel that I've already expanded my bass fishing knowledge, just by reading this!

lead's fine for flipping mats rights, tungsten is not a must?

Man I can't weight for the weekend!

Not only will I catch some fish, but I'll also tell the pond regular about this cool site!

[bamabassman]

lead is just fine bub. that's all i got,lmao.

[Bassboss]

Originally Posted by bamabassman

lead is just fine bub. that's all i got,lmao.

LOL!

Yup, you and I need to get this the 21st century don't we!

[Bassboss]

An other ting fellers, 8" or 6", I'll going to wally world in a few min. so I need reply's ASAP

[MississippiBoy]

You talking about lizards? I like 6", but that's just me.

[Bassboss]

Originally Posted by MississippiBoy

You talking about lizards? I like 6", but that's just me.

Yup I'm talking lizards! Thank for the snappy response!

[Bassboss]

I went to wally world and got the Zoom lizards, watermelon seed, 6". They had no weights over 1/2oz. I did however get two $1.00 wallmart spinnerbaits.