Fishermen Beware !!! - Page 7

bamabassman · 10-18-08, 03:14 PM

ross perot tried.

Jim80 · 10-18-08, 03:20 PM

Ross Perot was a gimmicky millionair that just wanted to achive his next goal , he had the same views as the other parties but didn't affiliate with them because they new he had no chance of winning . The mani problem is that the people who would care enough to try to improve the standard of life have to sell out in order to get elected and then just end up a part of the machine that is washington .

Jim

WTL · 10-18-08, 07:45 PM

I have given up on the idea of an independent party. They don't have enough time in our system to achieve relevance, so they invariably fall apart after each election.

What you have to do is change one of the major parties to fit your agenda. That can be done. Its not easy, it takes a game-changing moment and it is my hypothesis that we may be near that moment for the GOP.

Jim80 · 10-18-08, 08:21 PM

I'm not saying it can't happen it's just that government and all seems to be stuck in hole that there is no way out of .

Jim

Lilmoosecountry · 10-20-08, 10:22 AM

I read an intresting thing about the polls. There was a poll done about all the major polls. This poll looked at the last 12 polls from all major polling organizations. Obama #'s have not Grown at all of the last 12 major polls. Yes his #'s are high. But there is also no new growth on average. But with Mccains #'s & possible undecideds. He still is high enough atleast from the polling aspect to take obama.

jasonfish320 · 10-20-08, 05:07 PM

look at the last presidential election G.W. was down 10 points with only a month left to go and managed to pull it off....it's very much liberals polling liberals...I'm a registered republican and haven't been called by anyone and many of my colleagues and friends have said the same thing.

Bob Smith · 10-22-08, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonfish320

look at the last presidential election G.W. was down 10 points with only a month left to go and managed to pull it off....it's very much liberals polling liberals...I'm a registered republican and haven't been called by anyone and many of my colleagues and friends have said the same thing.

That's pretty much how I've always felt about the "polls" as well.

tnfisherman · 10-22-08, 09:01 PM

i put a 4 by 8 sign of macain and palin to just make my neigbor mad and out anti osama signs on the back of my truck you wouldnt believe the people who loved them

Cranebird · 10-25-08, 07:42 AM

You people are serious about this ?

I thought Ron Paul was the best choice but he is no longer there . Last I knew the president didn't have all of the power to govern this country ? What happened to the house and the senate? One of these clowns are going to get voted in and we will either screech the whole time or be happy with the decision, until the next time.........

jcw1503 · 10-30-08, 04:16 PM

"Last I knew the president didn't have all of the power to govern this country ? What happened to the house and the senate?"

Cranebird....just a little info....the house and the senate are both democrats.....and if the president is a democrat..then they have all the power...

WTL · 10-30-08, 04:47 PM

The executive branch has taken over the years a lot of power from congress and the states. It is way more powerful than it was ever intended to be.

If we just weakened the entire government we would be so much better off. That way, we could survive even when we do elect an idiot cause he wouldnt have the power to screw stuff up!

mont_lunker_hunter · 10-30-08, 05:08 PM

This a long read,but it's interesting to see how a philosopher living during the hay day of Athens can give such insight on modern governing. Read this when you have minute...or an hour!
http://faculty.frostburg.edu/phil/forum/PlatoRep.htm

jasonfish320 · 10-30-08, 05:26 PM

I find it interesting that the media can bash Sarah Palin about the 150k for clothing for her and her family, but it's OK for Barack Hussein Obama to spend $6 MILLION on an infomercial....I'm really pulling for a surprise victory

flbassman · 10-30-08, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonfish320

I find it interesting that the media can bash Sarah Palin about the 150k for clothing for her and her family, but it's OK for Barack Hussein Obama to spend $6 MILLION on an infomercial....I'm really pulling for a surprise victory

4 million.

I think both of these instances are ridiculous. Sarah Palin just spent more on clothes than the house I grew up in cost.......And Obama spent more in a half hour than I'll see in my whole life. Nobody is for the middle class.

Dave Barry's explanation of politics- "The word politics comes from two greek words, 'poli' meaning many, and 'tics' meaning bloodsucking insects."

jcw1503 · 10-31-08, 08:10 AM

YEah, its crazy how everyonr keeps talking about the middle class, but they sit up there living in multimillion dollar houses....Obama spent more on a few acres of land then i would ever hope to make in my life time...

jcw1503 · 10-31-08, 08:12 AM

I am curious, have they ever found Obama's birth certificate...the last i have seen and heard is they can't find it....and some of his family say he was born in america, but his grandma and others say it was not born in the US....

lowrider · 10-31-08, 11:46 AM

i'm not an obama supporter. but i EASILY found this, from a major newspaper.

First, last fall, there were all kinds of people, a number of them Ron Paul supporters, dashing from Internet site to Internet site suggesting that John McCain could not serve as president of the United States.

That was because he was born outside the United States and, therefore, not native-born, as presidents must be constitutionally.

McCain was, in fact, born in a U.S. military hospital in the Panama Canal Zone, where his father was serving in the Navy. That was, in fact, American-controlled territory at the time.

More importantly, his parents were both American citizens, so he could have been born on Mars and still been an American at birth. And a sense of the Senate resolution took care of any lingering doubts.

Now come the rumors about Barack Obama's birthplace, that he was really born in his father's native Kenya, so like Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who was born in Austria, he can't become a U.S. president.

Same rule would apply as for McCain. Obama's mother was an American. So is her son.

The Obama campaign has provided at The Ticket's request what it says is a copy of the Illinois senator's official birth certificate, reproduced here, showing he was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, at 7:24 p.m., which means he was late for dinner, just like a politician. Click on the photo to enlarge for reading.

doc · 10-31-08, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcw1503

I am curious, have they ever found Obama's birth certificate...the last i have seen and heard is they can't find it....and some of his family say he was born in america, but his grandma and others say it was not born in the US....

I had a sarcastic statement typed up about this, but then I realised if you believe this type of rhetoric the sarcasm would probably escape you.

jcw1503 · 10-31-08, 01:15 PM

i didn't read the post you mentioned it on doc, people were talking about it at work recently and i was curious, i was not trying to start anyhting but acutally if there is a military station across county, that station is considered american ground, so as it was said it that McCains is the same situation, no it would not in that sense...again i was wondering and not making a statement

Wishing2BFishing · 11-05-08, 12:17 PM

Well, we now have a winner . . . OBAMA

woody · 11-05-08, 12:29 PM

The United States of America is a country of winners !

jcw1503 · 11-05-08, 12:47 PM

Well, yes Obama is going to be president....Well, at least the majority in the house is Republican....What its not!!....Well, at least the majority in the senate is Republican...What that one is not either!!!...POP...America should of had a V8!!!!!

jasonfish320 · 11-05-08, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woody

The United States of America is a country of winners !

Exactly!...if the dems have it their way we won't be able to watch football games because it will be unfair if someone loses, and all the players need to have equal time playing...f'ing kills me...so looks like the "redistribution" of wealth idea will be great!...we can all drive around in the same cars, work the same jobs, get paid the same and all live in the same house...EQUALITY at it's best!

Lilmoosecountry · 11-06-08, 11:23 AM

Gun sales are on the increase. Gett'm while there hot before jan 20/2008. Wonder why that's simple OBAMA HUSSIEN is comming for them.

doc · 11-06-08, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lilmoosecountry

Gun sales are on the increase. Gett'm while there hot before jan 20/2008. Wonder why that's simple OBAMA HUSSIEN is comming for them.

Yes he is, thats all I've heard about on the news. /end sarcasm

10-18-08, 03:20 PM	#152
Jim80 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Thomaston CT Posts: 3,862	Ross Perot was a gimmicky millionair that just wanted to achive his next goal , he had the same views as the other parties but didn't affiliate with them because they new he had no chance of winning . The mani problem is that the people who would care enough to try to improve the standard of life have to sell out in order to get elected and then just end up a part of the machine that is washington . Jim __________________ In memory of Zooker 1/11/73-7/2/2010. You will be sorely missed and never forgotten.

10-18-08, 07:45 PM	#153
WTL BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntsville, Al Posts: 7,466	I have given up on the idea of an independent party. They don't have enough time in our system to achieve relevance, so they invariably fall apart after each election. What you have to do is change one of the major parties to fit your agenda. That can be done. Its not easy, it takes a game-changing moment and it is my hypothesis that we may be near that moment for the GOP. __________________ Selling live waterdogs for less since 2005.

10-18-08, 08:21 PM	#154
Jim80 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Thomaston CT Posts: 3,862	I'm not saying it can't happen it's just that government and all seems to be stuck in hole that there is no way out of . Jim __________________ In memory of Zooker 1/11/73-7/2/2010. You will be sorely missed and never forgotten.

10-20-08, 10:22 AM	#155
Lilmoosecountry BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,322	I read an intresting thing about the polls. There was a poll done about all the major polls. This poll looked at the last 12 polls from all major polling organizations. Obama #'s have not Grown at all of the last 12 major polls. Yes his #'s are high. But there is also no new growth on average. But with Mccains #'s & possible undecideds. He still is high enough atleast from the polling aspect to take obama. __________________ Live everyday as if it was your last & check your ego at the door!!! God is watching.

10-20-08, 05:07 PM	#156
jasonfish320 BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: MAINEIAC Posts: 585	look at the last presidential election G.W. was down 10 points with only a month left to go and managed to pull it off....it's very much liberals polling liberals...I'm a registered republican and haven't been called by anyone and many of my colleagues and friends have said the same thing. __________________ "If at first you don't succeed; have another beer"

10-18-08, 03:14 PM	#151
bamabassman BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: cedar bluff, alabama Posts: 15,292	ross perot tried.

10-22-08, 09:01 PM	#158
tnfisherman BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: east tn Posts: 370	i put a 4 by 8 sign of macain and palin to just make my neigbor mad and out anti osama signs on the back of my truck you wouldnt believe the people who loved them

10-25-08, 07:42 AM	#159
Cranebird BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bath, NY Posts: 308	You people are serious about this ? I thought Ron Paul was the best choice but he is no longer there . Last I knew the president didn't have all of the power to govern this country ? What happened to the house and the senate? One of these clowns are going to get voted in and we will either screech the whole time or be happy with the decision, until the next time......... __________________ ******************************************

10-30-08, 04:16 PM	#160
jcw1503 BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 617	"Last I knew the president didn't have all of the power to govern this country ? What happened to the house and the senate?" Cranebird....just a little info....the house and the senate are both democrats.....and if the president is a democrat..then they have all the power...

10-30-08, 04:47 PM	#161
WTL BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntsville, Al Posts: 7,466	The executive branch has taken over the years a lot of power from congress and the states. It is way more powerful than it was ever intended to be. If we just weakened the entire government we would be so much better off. That way, we could survive even when we do elect an idiot cause he wouldnt have the power to screw stuff up! __________________ Selling live waterdogs for less since 2005.

10-30-08, 05:08 PM	#162
mont_lunker_hunter BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Monticello, Arkansas Posts: 371	This a long read,but it's interesting to see how a philosopher living during the hay day of Athens can give such insight on modern governing. Read this when you have minute...or an hour! http://faculty.frostburg.edu/phil/forum/PlatoRep.htm __________________ Politics is like pleasing a woman, one slip of the tongue and ur in a world of s**t.

10-30-08, 05:26 PM	#163
jasonfish320 BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: MAINEIAC Posts: 585	I find it interesting that the media can bash Sarah Palin about the 150k for clothing for her and her family, but it's OK for Barack Hussein Obama to spend $6 MILLION on an infomercial....I'm really pulling for a surprise victory __________________ "If at first you don't succeed; have another beer"

10-31-08, 08:10 AM	#165
jcw1503 BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 617	YEah, its crazy how everyonr keeps talking about the middle class, but they sit up there living in multimillion dollar houses....Obama spent more on a few acres of land then i would ever hope to make in my life time...

10-31-08, 08:12 AM	#166
jcw1503 BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 617	I am curious, have they ever found Obama's birth certificate...the last i have seen and heard is they can't find it....and some of his family say he was born in america, but his grandma and others say it was not born in the US....

10-31-08, 11:46 AM	#167
lowrider BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 937	i'm not an obama supporter. but i EASILY found this, from a major newspaper. First, last fall, there were all kinds of people, a number of them Ron Paul supporters, dashing from Internet site to Internet site suggesting that John McCain could not serve as president of the United States. That was because he was born outside the United States and, therefore, not native-born, as presidents must be constitutionally. McCain was, in fact, born in a U.S. military hospital in the Panama Canal Zone, where his father was serving in the Navy. That was, in fact, American-controlled territory at the time. More importantly, his parents were both American citizens, so he could have been born on Mars and still been an American at birth. And a sense of the Senate resolution took care of any lingering doubts. Now come the rumors about Barack Obama's birthplace, that he was really born in his father's native Kenya, so like Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who was born in Austria, he can't become a U.S. president. Same rule would apply as for McCain. Obama's mother was an American. So is her son. The Obama campaign has provided at The Ticket's request what it says is a copy of the Illinois senator's official birth certificate, reproduced here, showing he was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, at 7:24 p.m., which means he was late for dinner, just like a politician. Click on the photo to enlarge for reading.

10-31-08, 01:15 PM	#169
jcw1503 BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 617	i didn't read the post you mentioned it on doc, people were talking about it at work recently and i was curious, i was not trying to start anyhting but acutally if there is a military station across county, that station is considered american ground, so as it was said it that McCains is the same situation, no it would not in that sense...again i was wondering and not making a statement

11-05-08, 12:17 PM	#170
Wishing2BFishing BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Morgantown, Pa Posts: 1,254	Well, we now have a winner . . . OBAMA

11-05-08, 12:29 PM	#171
woody BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Jonesville, Indiana Posts: 3,597	The United States of America is a country of winners !

11-05-08, 12:47 PM	#172
jcw1503 BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 617	Well, yes Obama is going to be president....Well, at least the majority in the house is Republican....What its not!!....Well, at least the majority in the senate is Republican...What that one is not either!!!...POP...America should of had a V8!!!!!

11-06-08, 11:23 AM	#174
Lilmoosecountry BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,322	Gun sales are on the increase. Gett'm while there hot before jan 20/2008. Wonder why that's simple OBAMA HUSSIEN is comming for them. __________________ Live everyday as if it was your last & check your ego at the door!!! God is watching.

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