A Philosophical Question: - Page 2

bamabassman · 05-12-08, 08:35 PM

back....hahahahahahahahahaha

Fish2win · 05-13-08, 11:59 AM

"fishing isn't about being good or great, its about yourself and meeting the challenge of mother nature. Or just to beat the crap out of the guy in the back of the boat!! not sure yet will let you know soon! hahaha! "

It can be the ultimate compatition. You against the guy in the back of the boat and you against the fish simutaniously. That is one of the things that motavates me top keep fishing. Fish2win

Lilmoosecountry · 05-13-08, 01:21 PM

Fishing is not a hobbie for me. It's who i am. It's bean engrained in me since i was 2. It's not an option to stop thinking like one. In the winter when hobbie fishermen are hunting. I am still fishing. Yeah i do switch gearz and change species. I usually go after panfish & crappie on the marina docks. The ice is'nt safe to walk on down here. But just the same i have to dig a hole to drop a jig. Real fishermen are on the water when itz 100 or at 30 below. Yes my favoite movie of all time is (A river runs threw it). That living my entire life fishing is who i am.

Captmikestarrett · 05-13-08, 02:45 PM

If my id where to align with my social conscience in reflection of prowess in the manly art of fishing then and only then I suppose I could reach my pinnacle with out a second guess or thought.

Capt Mike

lizardsrule · 05-13-08, 06:47 PM

Simple answer is "KNOWLEDGE", I need more of it, and am gaining it everyday. There isn't a superfast way to get all the knowledge, and "KNOW" it's good knowledge that works. IE someone on here states you got to use a lizard to catch bass on the beds. That can work, but anyone who decides to use that knowledge(not neccessarily from a experienced angler), and only uses that, and not his own judgements, and capabilities will miss the boat more often than not. I am working towards aquiring a "BASS" boat, where that will give me more opportunities to fish many different areas then I can get to in my little tin can. The next answer to that would be just like most folks, I don't have the financial ability to not work, and still live. When I get more knowledge, and can spend more time on the water, the is no limit to what I can achieve in fishing. I truly believe that, and nobody can change my opinion. I have the will, and desire to be a great fisherman, it will just take more time.

Lizards

bothomas · 05-14-08, 05:37 PM

WTL, what do you consider to be a truly great fisherman. Someone who understands the challenge and loves to spend the time necessary to learn.( and it takes a lifetime of learning ). Someone who comes to peace while on the water. Someone who is a competitive tournament angler. Someone who teaches others to love the sport. I think once you determine what you want out of fishing it is relatively easy to choose the path that will get you there. ( on the patience thing... nothing truly great comes fast or easy )

bamabassman · 05-14-08, 06:14 PM

bothomas has a VERY GOOD point. me i have peace of mind and love the challenge. i also love the sport and trying to work on the patience thing, lol. as or the learning.....none of us will ever know ALL there is to fishing, it is a continuance of learning in my opion. kinda like medicine, doctors are PRACTING, they never are a pro at it....right? so that is the way i feel we should look at it. it is a practice, not a profession. although there are pros just like doctors, lawyers and so on. now that i read this, i wonder....does this make sense? maybe i am not putting in the correct words. enough, getting too deep for me.

WTL · 05-14-08, 10:41 PM

I don't know bothomas, I think you know a great fisherman when you see one. Kinda like you know a pretty girl when you see one, its just obvious. We don't really need to get into attributes.

I will say this, there are many great people who happen to be fishermen. These are the people I would sooner aspire to be like, they do, as you said get an enjoyment from the water. I do believe that to be more important to a man than being technically proficient.

backinthesaddle · 05-14-08, 10:52 PM

Well spoken WTL. There are great men who happen to be fisherman. Just because someone is tall or old doesn't make them a great man thats for sure.
( or even a great fishermen)

brushhog · 05-15-08, 08:08 PM

Gentleman, as we wax philosophically, (WTL seems to draw this out of us) I must tell you about a great fisherman. Great, even though he gets out fished fairly consistently. Great even though his gear is old and inexpensive to begin with. Great even though he has never owned a boat to speak of....

My Dad is a great fisherman/outdoorsman because he respects the land/ water more than anyone I know, he gets great pleasure simply from being out and never fails to see the greatness in nature, and above all is a greater teacher of what he knows...

Indeed, greatness is measured in many ways....

flfireman · 05-15-08, 09:50 PM

Was thinking about this and not really sure how I wanted to answer it. I consider myself a decent fisherman... at times. My explanation for this is. When I forget about the time, the things I need to do, the things that happened at work, the BS I just took from one supervisor or the next, the cost of gas, the next payment for this, that or the other. When I just go out to fish and forget about everything. I do well, sometimes I do superb. I've fished w/ semi-pro's and have outfished them, does this make me great...no. It means that I had a better day than them. On the other hand when I get rushed, start bit%in about everything, I usually have a bad day. When I catch myself doing this, sometimes I can sit down and make myself realize that my life isn't all that bad and to enjoy the time God has given me to relax and enjoy the wonderful world he has made for me. I do rush a lot, I do change bait's a lot, I do throw a spinnerbait for hours on end, knowing that I just caught a fish on a worm, but wasn't in the mood for slowing my self down. So I guess after this long winded explanation. I need to just relax, concentrate on what I think should be working and remember why I bought all this stuff in the first place. To have fun.

05-13-08, 11:59 AM	#27
Fish2win BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Norris Tennessee Posts: 469	"fishing isn't about being good or great, its about yourself and meeting the challenge of mother nature. Or just to beat the crap out of the guy in the back of the boat!! not sure yet will let you know soon! hahaha! " It can be the ultimate compatition. You against the guy in the back of the boat and you against the fish simutaniously. That is one of the things that motavates me top keep fishing. Fish2win __________________ Norris Tennessee set the hook! They dont have hands.

05-13-08, 02:45 PM	#29
Captmikestarrett BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: May 2006 Location: Accokeek MD Posts: 3,315	If my id where to align with my social conscience in reflection of prowess in the manly art of fishing then and only then I suppose I could reach my pinnacle with out a second guess or thought. Capt Mike __________________ Capt Mike Starrett light tackle guide Potomac River http://www.indianheadcharters.com

05-13-08, 06:47 PM	#30
lizardsrule BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saint Augustine, FL Posts: 7,374	Simple answer is "KNOWLEDGE", I need more of it, and am gaining it everyday. There isn't a superfast way to get all the knowledge, and "KNOW" it's good knowledge that works. IE someone on here states you got to use a lizard to catch bass on the beds. That can work, but anyone who decides to use that knowledge(not neccessarily from a experienced angler), and only uses that, and not his own judgements, and capabilities will miss the boat more often than not. I am working towards aquiring a "BASS" boat, where that will give me more opportunities to fish many different areas then I can get to in my little tin can. The next answer to that would be just like most folks, I don't have the financial ability to not work, and still live. When I get more knowledge, and can spend more time on the water, the is no limit to what I can achieve in fishing. I truly believe that, and nobody can change my opinion. I have the will, and desire to be a great fisherman, it will just take more time. Lizards __________________ There are three types of Snakes I hate 1. Live Snakes 2. Dead Snakes 3. Sticks that look like Snakes. And Gators too!

05-14-08, 10:41 PM	#33
WTL BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntsville, Al Posts: 7,466	I don't know bothomas, I think you know a great fisherman when you see one. Kinda like you know a pretty girl when you see one, its just obvious. We don't really need to get into attributes. I will say this, there are many great people who happen to be fishermen. These are the people I would sooner aspire to be like, they do, as you said get an enjoyment from the water. I do believe that to be more important to a man than being technically proficient. __________________ Selling live waterdogs for less since 2005.

05-15-08, 08:08 PM	#35
brushhog BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Whitesboro, NY Posts: 1,222	Gentleman, as we wax philosophically, (WTL seems to draw this out of us) I must tell you about a great fisherman. Great, even though he gets out fished fairly consistently. Great even though his gear is old and inexpensive to begin with. Great even though he has never owned a boat to speak of.... My Dad is a great fisherman/outdoorsman because he respects the land/ water more than anyone I know, he gets great pleasure simply from being out and never fails to see the greatness in nature, and above all is a greater teacher of what he knows... Indeed, greatness is measured in many ways.... __________________ 3/4 of the Earth's surface is water and 1/4 is land. Clearly god wants me to fish, not mow the lawn.

05-12-08, 08:35 PM	#26
bamabassman BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: cedar bluff, alabama Posts: 15,292	back....hahahahahahahahahaha

05-13-08, 01:21 PM	#28
Lilmoosecountry BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,322	Fishing is not a hobbie for me. It's who i am. It's bean engrained in me since i was 2. It's not an option to stop thinking like one. In the winter when hobbie fishermen are hunting. I am still fishing. Yeah i do switch gearz and change species. I usually go after panfish & crappie on the marina docks. The ice is'nt safe to walk on down here. But just the same i have to dig a hole to drop a jig. Real fishermen are on the water when itz 100 or at 30 below. Yes my favoite movie of all time is (A river runs threw it). That living my entire life fishing is who i am.

05-14-08, 05:37 PM	#31
bothomas BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Huntsville, Al. Posts: 220	WTL, what do you consider to be a truly great fisherman. Someone who understands the challenge and loves to spend the time necessary to learn.( and it takes a lifetime of learning ). Someone who comes to peace while on the water. Someone who is a competitive tournament angler. Someone who teaches others to love the sport. I think once you determine what you want out of fishing it is relatively easy to choose the path that will get you there. ( on the patience thing... nothing truly great comes fast or easy )

05-14-08, 06:14 PM	#32
bamabassman BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: cedar bluff, alabama Posts: 15,292	bothomas has a VERY GOOD point. me i have peace of mind and love the challenge. i also love the sport and trying to work on the patience thing, lol. as or the learning.....none of us will ever know ALL there is to fishing, it is a continuance of learning in my opion. kinda like medicine, doctors are PRACTING, they never are a pro at it....right? so that is the way i feel we should look at it. it is a practice, not a profession. although there are pros just like doctors, lawyers and so on. now that i read this, i wonder....does this make sense? maybe i am not putting in the correct words. enough, getting too deep for me.

05-14-08, 10:52 PM	#34
backinthesaddle BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Canton,Georgia Posts: 63	Well spoken WTL. There are great men who happen to be fisherman. Just because someone is tall or old doesn't make them a great man thats for sure. ( or even a great fishermen)

05-15-08, 09:50 PM	#36
flfireman BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Palm Bay, Fl Posts: 2,751	Was thinking about this and not really sure how I wanted to answer it. I consider myself a decent fisherman... at times. My explanation for this is. When I forget about the time, the things I need to do, the things that happened at work, the BS I just took from one supervisor or the next, the cost of gas, the next payment for this, that or the other. When I just go out to fish and forget about everything. I do well, sometimes I do superb. I've fished w/ semi-pro's and have outfished them, does this make me great...no. It means that I had a better day than them. On the other hand when I get rushed, start bit%in about everything, I usually have a bad day. When I catch myself doing this, sometimes I can sit down and make myself realize that my life isn't all that bad and to enjoy the time God has given me to relax and enjoy the wonderful world he has made for me. I do rush a lot, I do change bait's a lot, I do throw a spinnerbait for hours on end, knowing that I just caught a fish on a worm, but wasn't in the mood for slowing my self down. So I guess after this long winded explanation. I need to just relax, concentrate on what I think should be working and remember why I bought all this stuff in the first place. To have fun. __________________ In the Lord all things are possible.

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