.22lr or .22mag

[tnfisherman]

which is better for shooting squrriels,groundhogs,crows,,maybe a few yote under 125yards,and what else that i find to shoot ,,,,, plus what kind of damage will a .22mag do to a critter

[jmartin]

Go with the 22mag I am not sure you will get enough knockdown on a groundhog with a 22lr at 100 plus yards and the bullet is heavier so it will not be affected by wind so much. Marlin makes a great bolt action 22mag for a reasonable price.

[tnfisherman]

i have a .22lr well a couple but i have a single six thats changeble to .22mag that i carry to shoot critters on trap line but i would like to have a.22 mag to shoot,,,, the .22mag at 100yds has like 1300 fps with cci thats more then most .22lr has at the muzzle,,,,,,,, does a .22mag do alot of damage

[jmartin]

Thats hard to answer tnfisherman. Without having ballistic tips or a higher energy like you will find in a 223 or 22-250 you are not gonna have the head blown off or find nothing but feathers and two feet damage, however you can punch a nice little hole thru groundhogs with a 22mag all day long if you have a good scope. hope that helps

Jerry

[tnfisherman]

i ment it dont blow up too much on a squrriel or anything ,,,,,,,yea they make ballistic tips for a .22 mag

[jmartin]

I wasnt aware of that, but that is good to know because with the price of ammo my Bushmaster gets really $$$$$ to shoot.

[tnfisherman]

yea go to www.cciammunition.com

[tnfisherman]

what would happen if you shot a .22lr in a .22 mag

[flbassman]

Originally Posted by tnfisherman

what would happen if you shot a .22lr in a .22 mag

You would die. Actually, it probably wouldn't even shoot, because a long is a rimfire vs. center pin on a mag. But I'll let you try it....

For my money, I'd go with the LR, or move up to a .223......The LR is also a mighty fine trap checking gun, in addition to being legal (at least in FL) to carry at times when you can't have a rifle. (Like at night, with a spotlight.)

[tnfisherman]

a .22 mag is a rimfire just like a .22lr,,,,,,,i heard it would crack the case on the .22lr in the .22mag

[MississippiBoy]

Originally Posted by tnfisherman

what would happen if you shot a .22lr in a .22 mag

Originally Posted by tnfisherman

a .22 mag is a rimfire just like a .22lr,,,,,,,i heard it would crack the case on the .22lr in the .22mag

Then why ask, if you already knew the answer?

[jooleyen]

Originally Posted by MississippiBoy

Then why ask, if you already knew the answer?

I think you know the answer to that question.

[zooker]

22mag.. hit a yote with a 22lr sure it will end him but not as fast as a 22mag..

zooker

[MississippiBoy]

Originally Posted by jooleyen

I think you know the answer to that question.

What question? I had a question about a question, now you say I have the answer to the question I already asked?

Now I'm all confused...

[tnfisherman]

i didnt know that it would crack i just heard that it would,......... i was looking at cci .22mag v-max, 30 grain bullet ballistic tip,,,,,, at the muzzle its got 2200fps and at 100yds its got 1571fps thats still more then mosts .22lr has got at the muzzle,,,,,,,,,now they got a round out that when it hits it blows into three peices,,, thats cool

[flbassman]

Yeah, your right. The 22 hornet is a centerfire

[tnfisherman]

i can deer hunt here in tn with any centerfire rounds

[tnfisherman]

im thinking bout the .22mag really heavy

[Lancer6]

TennyFish,

I'm going to assume that by ".22 Mag" you refer to THIS
http://www.remington.com/products/am...um_rimfire.asp
rather than the old straight-cased 22mag, formally known as ".22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire or WMR.
Even at that I urge you to reconsider shooting larger animals, such as coyotes, with anything other than a higher velocity CENTER-fire cartridge. Here's why:
The muzzle velocity on the 40 grain bullet fired by the ".22 Mag" shown in the link is, depending on barrel length and a few other factors, approx. 1900 FPS-far slower than that of the common center-fire 22's. In fact it's about the same as the time-honored straight-cased 22mag. The ONLY appreciable difference is that the newer version offers a superior bullet design.
Here's my concern: While the cartridge might be consistently effective at ranges up to 125 yards on smaller animals, using it on coyotes or similarly sized (or larger) animals may well result in wounded animals that escape only to die in agony later. This is because the already small and light bullet will not retain much energy (=quick kill capability) downrange.
During my many years of in the outdoors, to include assisting folks on selection of weapon, gauge or caliber thereof, intense instruction in marksmanship, guiding and, (more importantly,) hunting ethics, I've observed more than enough to make me confident in my recommendation that you consider a center-fire cartridge for ANY shot at a coyote or larger animal at ANY range over 50 yards. BTW, if you can get THAT close to a coyote you are an invisible man!
I've seen, all too many times, the results of being under-gunned AND/OR poor shot selection and placement
NO animal deserves a slow painful death, no matter how many holes he's made in your pasture or how many of your chickens he's swiped. He's only doing what God programmed him to do and what human encroachment may have forced him to do.
You can buy any number of decent rifles chambered for the 5.56mm NATO, AKA .223 Rem, and order ammo, such as from PMC, at prices that will make practice and hunting affordable. If you do use military spec ammo, however, use it wisely, since FMJ bullets are not generally ideal for hunting, save for smaller game and the occasional ACCURATE head shot on game such as coyotes or javelina.

Thanks for reading.

Lancer6

[tnfisherman]

on that link that pic was of a 17hmr,,,,, i can get a .22mag or .22wmr thats moving at 2200,,,,,, this round i am talking bout is still carying alot more power then a .22lr point blank.......i dont know man this is confusing to tryto pick right gun and right caibler

[Lancer6]

Originally Posted by tnfisherman

on that link that pic was of a 17hmr,,,,, i can get a .22mag or .22wmr thats moving at 2200,,,,,, this round i am talking bout is still carying alot more power then a .22lr point blank.......i dont know man this is confusing to tryto pick right gun and right caibler

I sure slipped on that one, assuming the pic depicted some new form of 22 rimfire. BTW, there WAS a necked rimfire 5mm from Remington (I think) that was marketed some years ago. It failed and now those that bought the rifles are stuck...no ammeau!
For all that, I'll stick with the rest of my assertions.
Good luck in your search and PLEASE consider center-fire.

Yer Bud,

Lancer6

[flbassman]

Yeah man, for my money i'd go for either a .223 or a .22 hornet. .223 is a little heavy for plinkin squirells, but it'll put a hurtin on a yote or a coon......

[tnfisherman]

there bringing back the 5mm ammo back too got some at cheaperthandirt.com ,,,,,,, man im confused lol

[tnfisherman]

i think im going with the .22mag to hunt groundhogs with so dont ruin hide and for when ever a coyote wants to pop up if in the right distance, thanks for all the info

[Lancer6]