Backlash Solution; Does this work with BRAID TOO?!

Addikted2Fishin' · 02-26-09, 01:18 AM

Hey, I'm sort of new to this forum... I think this is actually my VERY 1ST POST on a topic of MY CHOICE. Great site! I'm always reading up on what people have to say or ask... Very interesting!

Anyway, I was outside in my backyard practicing my Pitching/Flipping Technique... until I finally got a backlash!

(I thought I'd never say this, but it felt good... being that I'm from Canada... our regular fishing season are a lot shorter than those down south! hahaha... thats how much I miss fishing during the off season!) Anyway... as I was saying... I got into a "Backlash" - I then tried Kevin's technique/solution to correcting this found HERE . I tried this technique, only to find that it DIDN'T WORK. Now, I'm thinking because I was/am using BRAID... that this application/solution doesn't apply. Can anyone verify this for me?! Does this solution only work for MONO and FLOURO?!

Thanks Folks!

Rob

Love of the Sport · 02-26-09, 02:04 AM

I don't think it will. It works on other lines because they are stiff.

dodgeguy · 02-26-09, 06:32 AM

yes it does work on braid.i've removed 99% of the worst backlashes that way.try reeling against your thumb longer than he is.

BigBassin144 · 02-26-09, 08:16 AM

Welcome to the Nut-House man!

Since I watched that video, I haven't gotten a single backlash, so I wouldn't know.

kidding, of course.

I usually don't remember to use that trick though. I have used it on mono and it worked fairly well. I haven't tried it on braid, but I'd assume it would work, I saw Bill Dance do it with braid. If you're using heavy braid, I'd think it would make it even easier. (How heavy is heavy btw?)

BB

Joel · 02-26-09, 09:15 AM

I've used it on braid and it does work, but it does take longer and you really have to have a "heavy" thumb.

Kevin · 02-26-09, 10:09 AM

This trick works VERY GOOD on mono and fluorocarbon (and copolymers). It's effectiveness does decline with braid slightly... But to answer your question, yes, it will work with braid and is always worth trying first. If you have a horrendous backlash with braid, that's when it will really lose effectiveness.

I cannot recommend a tip for baitcasters more. Give the thumb trick a chance and you'll quickly come to love it. Though my video shows an instance where it takes about 7-8 tries to get one loop unstuck, most of the time it takes only one try.

jasonfish320 · 02-26-09, 10:25 AM

Great Video..I have never seen that before...I think the best part of that technique is that you don't sacrifice damaging your line to fix your birdsnest.

66KingFisher · 02-26-09, 02:40 PM

I got one of the worst birdsnest i've ever got recently, and before I started my usual picking and pulling, or cutting, I decided to try Kevins tip.....and lo and behold it worked great....I was fishin again within a few seconds.....it was a great tip that i'll remember.....I was using mono at the time.

Bassboss · 02-26-09, 03:09 PM

It works for me every time, never had a time when it did not..... and I'm a braid ONLY user. Did you make sure to press down, VERY hard when you where doing it. If it doesn't work, try tightening the drag!

Welcome to the form.

Hope this helps, good luck and good fishin!

Bassboss · 02-26-09, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin

This trick works VERY GOOD on mono and fluorocarbon (and copolymers). It's effectiveness does decline with braid slightly... But to answer your question, yes, it will work with braid and is always worth trying first. If you have a horrendous backlash with braid, that's when it will really lose effectiveness.

I cannot recommend a tip for baitcasters more. Give the thumb trick a chance and you'll quickly come to love it. Though my video shows an instance where it takes about 7-8 tries to get one loop unstuck, most of the time it takes only one try.

True, it dose loose it's effectiveness on very bad backlashes!

jcw1503 · 02-26-09, 03:15 PM

I was at my brother in laws and we were working on his reels...and one of his reels got a bad birdnest from a previous person who fished with him, he spent 30 minutes trying to get it out and he thought he did and when he went and cast it, it blew up again even worse than before...I mean it was bad...He went to grab the cutters and i told him to give it to me bc i wanted to try to get it out...He laughed and sad sure why not...I told him to give 3 minutes....and i got it out in 2 with kevins advice...he was speechless...It was mono, but i have done it on braid as well...

aikenyounggun · 02-26-09, 03:20 PM

i cant watch the video right now b/c im at school but sometimes old braid is just really nasty and gets way up under itself

aikenyounggun · 02-26-09, 04:57 PM

i looked at it and sometimes the braid is just really old it gets way inder itself... so instead of getting caught once it will get caught multiple times so it wont work... just keep pulling and when it stops the line usually it will be the line coming out and then the line will be wrapped around in a "U".... grab the "U" and pull it for as long as possible this will get it out... sometimes when the braid is old a U will get stuck on a U and that U will get stuck on another.... you just have to do it a couple times... hope this helps

fish2 · 02-26-09, 05:01 PM

personally I have never had luck doing that.

bamabassman · 02-26-09, 06:16 PM

it does work with braided line UNLESS it is a real MESS. i have gotten out nests using braided line9 times out of 10. but that 10th made me haveta respool the dang thing. i use this techinque alot too, lol. get it, i backlash ALOT. HAHAHAHAHA.

Addikted2Fishin' · 02-26-09, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bamabassman

it does work with braided line unless it is a real mess. I have gotten out nests using braided line9 times out of 10. But that 10th made me haveta respool the dang thing. I use this techinque alot too, lol. Get it, i backlash alot. Hahahahaha.

lol @ bamabassman!

Bassboss · 02-26-09, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Addikted2Fishin'

lol @ bamabassman!

Hay Addikt, you know what day tomorrow is?

Addikted2Fishin' · 02-26-09, 09:47 PM

Bamabassman's Birthday? *shrugs*....errrr... its my cousin's birthday, I know that!

hahaha

Bassboss · 02-26-09, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Addikted2Fishin'

Bamabassman's Birthday? *shrugs*....errrr... its my cousin's birthday, I know that!

hahaha

Noooooooooo, It's Friday, but do you know what's so special about this Friday though?

Addikted2Fishin' · 02-26-09, 10:53 PM

Party time?!

Bassboss · 02-27-09, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Addikted2Fishin'

Party time?!

Fresh man........ Friday!!!!

bassin VT · 02-27-09, 10:14 AM

Addikted2fishin what part of canada do you live in? I live in northern VT. The seasons quite short here too.

Addikted2Fishin' · 02-27-09, 02:03 PM

Bassin VT: I live in Toronto. I'm aching to hit the waters bud!! lol.. anything to get the line wet!!

bassintom · 02-27-09, 07:27 PM

That way has worked for me almost every time,whether mono or braided.The important thing is never ever just keep yanking on the line to pull it out.that seems to tighten the knot.Your first reaction is to try pulling on it.Don't do that,try this way before you do anything else.Spraying your line with Wd-40 or KVD line treatment seems to make it work better.

BassBandit · 02-27-09, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassintom

Spraying your line with Wd-40

I don't mess with that stuff on my fishing equipments.

02-26-09, 01:18 AM	#1
Addikted2Fishin' BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 6	Backlash Solution; Does this work with BRAID TOO?! Hey, I'm sort of new to this forum... I think this is actually my VERY 1ST POST on a topic of MY CHOICE. Great site! I'm always reading up on what people have to say or ask... Very interesting! Anyway, I was outside in my backyard practicing my Pitching/Flipping Technique... until I finally got a backlash! (I thought I'd never say this, but it felt good... being that I'm from Canada... our regular fishing season are a lot shorter than those down south! hahaha... thats how much I miss fishing during the off season!) Anyway... as I was saying... I got into a "Backlash" - I then tried Kevin's technique/solution to correcting this found HERE . I tried this technique, only to find that it DIDN'T WORK. Now, I'm thinking because I was/am using BRAID... that this application/solution doesn't apply. Can anyone verify this for me?! Does this solution only work for MONO and FLOURO?! Thanks Folks! Rob __________________ ..."It's ALL FUN and GAMES, until SOMEONE LOSES a FISH"... -Dave Mercer Last edited by Addikted2Fishin'; 02-26-09 at 01:32 AM. Reason: Changed notification type to instant email notification.

02-26-09, 06:32 AM	#3
dodgeguy BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: poughkeepsie,n.y. Posts: 930	yes it does work on braid.i've removed 99% of the worst backlashes that way.try reeling against your thumb longer than he is. __________________ chrysler master tech,avid fisherman and i bleed red,white and blue!!!!

02-26-09, 08:16 AM	#4
BigBassin144 BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 9,463	Welcome to the Nut-House man! Since I watched that video, I haven't gotten a single backlash, so I wouldn't know. kidding, of course. I usually don't remember to use that trick though. I have used it on mono and it worked fairly well. I haven't tried it on braid, but I'd assume it would work, I saw Bill Dance do it with braid. If you're using heavy braid, I'd think it would make it even easier. (How heavy is heavy btw?) BB __________________ As of June 14, 2014 the members of the BF.com forum have moved to basschat.yuku.com!

02-26-09, 09:15 AM	#5
Joel BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Suffolk County, NY Posts: 542	I've used it on braid and it does work, but it does take longer and you really have to have a "heavy" thumb. __________________ Joel 1st you have to find 'em

02-26-09, 10:25 AM	#7
jasonfish320 BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: MAINEIAC Posts: 585	Great Video..I have never seen that before...I think the best part of that technique is that you don't sacrifice damaging your line to fix your birdsnest. __________________ "If at first you don't succeed; have another beer"

02-26-09, 02:04 AM	#2
Love of the Sport BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Baton Rouge Louisiana Posts: 236	I don't think it will. It works on other lines because they are stiff.

02-26-09, 10:09 AM	#6
Kevin Administrator Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 651	This trick works VERY GOOD on mono and fluorocarbon (and copolymers). It's effectiveness does decline with braid slightly... But to answer your question, yes, it will work with braid and is always worth trying first. If you have a horrendous backlash with braid, that's when it will really lose effectiveness. I cannot recommend a tip for baitcasters more. Give the thumb trick a chance and you'll quickly come to love it. Though my video shows an instance where it takes about 7-8 tries to get one loop unstuck, most of the time it takes only one try.

02-26-09, 02:40 PM	#8
66KingFisher BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mena,Arkansas Posts: 1,327	I got one of the worst birdsnest i've ever got recently, and before I started my usual picking and pulling, or cutting, I decided to try Kevins tip.....and lo and behold it worked great....I was fishin again within a few seconds.....it was a great tip that i'll remember.....I was using mono at the time.

02-26-09, 03:09 PM	#9
Bassboss BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Shawano, WI Posts: 7,761	It works for me every time, never had a time when it did not..... and I'm a braid ONLY user. Did you make sure to press down, VERY hard when you where doing it. If it doesn't work, try tightening the drag! Welcome to the form. Hope this helps, good luck and good fishin! __________________ If you can't fix it with heavy squats or fish oil, you're probably going to die.

02-26-09, 03:15 PM	#11
jcw1503 BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 617	I was at my brother in laws and we were working on his reels...and one of his reels got a bad birdnest from a previous person who fished with him, he spent 30 minutes trying to get it out and he thought he did and when he went and cast it, it blew up again even worse than before...I mean it was bad...He went to grab the cutters and i told him to give it to me bc i wanted to try to get it out...He laughed and sad sure why not...I told him to give 3 minutes....and i got it out in 2 with kevins advice...he was speechless...It was mono, but i have done it on braid as well... __________________ The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive yet attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope....

02-26-09, 03:20 PM	#12
aikenyounggun BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: aiken, SC Posts: 2,051	i cant watch the video right now b/c im at school but sometimes old braid is just really nasty and gets way up under itself __________________ <>< Rather be Fishing ><>

02-26-09, 04:57 PM	#13
aikenyounggun BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: aiken, SC Posts: 2,051	i looked at it and sometimes the braid is just really old it gets way inder itself... so instead of getting caught once it will get caught multiple times so it wont work... just keep pulling and when it stops the line usually it will be the line coming out and then the line will be wrapped around in a "U".... grab the "U" and pull it for as long as possible this will get it out... sometimes when the braid is old a U will get stuck on a U and that U will get stuck on another.... you just have to do it a couple times... hope this helps __________________ <>< Rather be Fishing ><>

02-26-09, 05:01 PM	#14
fish2 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bryan Ohio Posts: 141	personally I have never had luck doing that. __________________ fish2 <><

02-26-09, 06:16 PM	#15
bamabassman BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: cedar bluff, alabama Posts: 15,292	it does work with braided line UNLESS it is a real MESS. i have gotten out nests using braided line9 times out of 10. but that 10th made me haveta respool the dang thing. i use this techinque alot too, lol. get it, i backlash ALOT. HAHAHAHAHA. __________________ so many lures, so little time.

02-26-09, 09:47 PM	#18
Addikted2Fishin' BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 6	Bamabassman's Birthday? shrugs....errrr... its my cousin's birthday, I know that! hahaha __________________ ..."It's ALL FUN and GAMES, until SOMEONE LOSES a FISH"... -Dave Mercer

02-26-09, 10:53 PM	#20
Addikted2Fishin' BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 6	Party time?! __________________ ..."It's ALL FUN and GAMES, until SOMEONE LOSES a FISH"... -Dave Mercer

02-27-09, 10:14 AM	#22
bassin VT BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Concord,VT Posts: 8	Addikted2fishin what part of canada do you live in? I live in northern VT. The seasons quite short here too. __________________ }((((>Really would "Rather be fishing"<)))){

02-27-09, 02:03 PM	#23
Addikted2Fishin' BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 6	Bassin VT: I live in Toronto. I'm aching to hit the waters bud!! lol.. anything to get the line wet!! __________________ ..."It's ALL FUN and GAMES, until SOMEONE LOSES a FISH"... -Dave Mercer

02-27-09, 07:27 PM	#24
bassintom BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: washington(northwest) N.J. Posts: 3,958	That way has worked for me almost every time,whether mono or braided.The important thing is never ever just keep yanking on the line to pull it out.that seems to tighten the knot.Your first reaction is to try pulling on it.Don't do that,try this way before you do anything else.Spraying your line with Wd-40 or KVD line treatment seems to make it work better. __________________ A man's gotta believe in something...I believe I'll go fishing.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)