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Old 07-14-08, 10:30 AM   #1
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I just received this news release:
BIRMINGHAM, Ala. – In the past year or so several new lures have come on the market with claims that they are biodegradable. This certainly is an indication that “green” is the trend in fishing lures. And there’s nothing greener in fishing lures than FoodSource® lures.

FoodSource® lures are made entirely of ingredients approved for use in animal food and even human food. In other words, they are 100% real food. And food is what fish eat.

Other lures claiming to be biodegradable are made from so-called “biodegradable plastics.” These plastic compounds typically are petroleum-based, so they rely on fossil fuels. Even if they biodegrade in a landfill, that's not relevant because that’s not where they are disposed. In the water these plastic products just dissolve into smaller pieces of plastic or jam a fish's digestive tract. That’s not true bio-degradation. In fact, “biodegradable soft plastics” may be a misnomer and oxymoron.

As a senior sustainability executive at a big box retailer said:
"In my opinion, a petroleum-based plastic with a few additives that make it break down is simply not a good idea. In fact, the carbon footprint work I have seen on these substrates suggest that it's actually a negative. Moreover, inside a landfill there is no value to degradation, if it's even possible."
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False or misleading environmental claims – sometimes called “green-washing” -- do a disservice to the industry and consumers. As stated by TerraChoice in “Six Sins of Green-washing”:

• Well-intentioned consumers may be misled into purchases that do not deliver on their environmental promise. This means both that the individual consumer has been misled and that the potential environmental benefit of his or her purchase has been squandered.

• Competitive pressure from illegitimate environmental claims takes market share away from products that offer more legitimate benefits, thus slowing the penetration of real environmental innovation in the marketplace.

• Green-washing may create cynicism and doubt about all environmental claims. Consumers – particularly those who care most about real environmental progress – may give up on marketers and manufacturers, and give up on the hope that their spending might be put to good use.

This would eliminate a significant market-based, financial incentive for green product innovation and leave committed environmental advocates with government regulations as the most likely alternative.

What do you think? Could this revolutionize 'plastics'?
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Old 07-14-08, 06:33 PM   #2
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Gulp soft plastics are biodegradable. That's cause they aren't really made out of plastic, neither are the foodsource ones.

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Old 07-14-08, 06:41 PM   #3
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i hate them, they cost alot and dont last long
i know bout the green thing but i dont like em it is a good idea but i think they could be improved
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I don't think fishing needs to be greener, although I wouldn't mind a more fuel efficient outboard... But I do agree that you should try and leave the lake cleaner than you found it. Whenever I get done with a plastic I throw it in the floor of the boat and then in the garbage, but NEVER in the water.


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Old 07-14-08, 06:51 PM   #5
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the fuell efficient out board is a must, mine gets 3MPG
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Old 07-15-08, 09:45 AM   #6
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I have fished with some of the foodsource products. They seem to me to be stiff, lack action and dry out very quickly. I am glad that they are biodegradable and I wish I liked to use them, but I don't.
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Old 07-15-08, 06:56 PM   #7
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ok, in my opion here now. but truly each and every thing we have in this world is biodegradeable. nothing last forever,haha. saying that...i know that some things take a very long time to degrade, but it is like bb said. don't throw it in the water if it bothers you, throw it in your boat or on the bank. then take it to the can.
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Old 07-15-08, 10:00 PM   #8
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ok, in my opion here now. but truly each and every thing we have in this world is biodegradeable. nothing last forever,haha. saying that...i know that some things take a very long time to degrade, but it is like bb said. don't throw it in the water if it bothers you, throw it in your boat or on the bank. then take it to the can.
come on bamma you could bury a can of spam in your yard and some kid in two or three hundred years would be able to eat it , but thats just spam
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Old 07-15-08, 11:20 PM   #9
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i know jim. i said that it would degrade SOME time. hahahaha. spam.... great fried too. lol
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Old 07-16-08, 02:41 AM   #10
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i know jim. i said that it would degrade SOME time. hahahaha. spam.... great fried too. lol
Thin sliced, fried slightly crisp, with over-easy aigs, some bizkits 'n cow salve, grits= Goodness.
Here's a little tip...After slicing the SPAM simmer it in a little water to remove some of the salt. Then drain the water and proceed. I do this with even the reduced-sodium SPAM.
SPAM came to the fore during WW-Twice. There are still a lot of old vets who won't touch it with a ten-foot bayonet, but non-Caucasian Hawaiians have made an almost "State Food" of it.

"Mmmmmmm, Luau! Whatcha got in the pit?"
"A five-hundred pound chuck of SPAM, of course!"
"Kewl! I'll go whip up a batch of Poi!"
"We're gonna have some Hula dancers in grass skirts too."
"May I bring my WeedEater?"

Aloha!

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Old 07-17-08, 10:10 AM   #11
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my only problem with that concept. Is i have been known to set on worms way to long. When i discover them again i use them. How would this stuff hold up if i threw them in my bag for 3 yrs before i used them.
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Old 07-17-08, 05:17 PM   #12
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I tried the food source and did no good with them. The gulp minnows work well but really I did not see any better action nor did I catch more fish than with Yum or yamatso lures.
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