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Old 09-22-08, 10:53 AM   #1
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Default 1997 Astro restoration continued

This weekend I built the generation III rod organizer for the Astro, removed the old Hummingbird flasher (no longer worked) and installed a plate so I could mount my new water pressure gage, cleaned the console, toe panel, and trolling motor and applied Mother's Back to Black (awesome stuff!)
The old rod organizer (gen II).

The Gen II rod tubes remain

The new Rod organizer (Gen III), the holes will be lined with rubber tubing

The new plate installed on console, also note the shiny black appearance of the 13 year old console

A few "before pictures of the Trolling motor and toe panel



And the post cleaning and Back to Black applied



In about a week the motor will be back on her and she'll be ready for the lake.
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Old 09-22-08, 05:09 PM   #2
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dang bob...that is looking awesum pal. think you can save the pattern of the rod organizer for me? i really need something like that fer my boat. and bring that back to black and redo my trolling motor.....no, wait.........i just remembered that i am gonna upgrade to an 80# thrust next year. truly bob, that looks great man. i really would like a pattern of the rod organizer though and a list of materials. thanks pal.
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Old 09-22-08, 05:41 PM   #3
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John, the whole thing was constructed of Aluminum angle and Aluminum Flat strips and rivets. It was easy, time consuming, but easy. The rod tubes are 1" dia sched 40 pipe glued to a plywood plate.
The nice part is that you can customize it for your boat.
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Old 09-29-08, 07:43 AM   #4
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EXCELLANT work buddy. Also I wanna know more about this Back to Black stuff. I ainit familiar with it but I see that it WORKS great.
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Old 09-29-08, 09:09 AM   #5
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It is made by Mother's and available at your local Wally World for about $5.00.
There is another great product made by Mother's as well. it is a metal cleaner/polish.
Look what it did for my Pro control handle.



Here are pictures of the cap after I wet sanded it, compounded it, waxed and polished it yesterday:







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Old 09-29-08, 06:42 PM   #6
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That looks nice..What power you gonna use??I will try the mothers stuff,thanks for the tips.
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Old 09-29-08, 08:31 PM   #7
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That looks nice..What power you gonna use??I will try the mothers stuff,thanks for the tips.
Not sure I follow you on that one, sorry bout that. What do you mean about the "what Power"? I have a 200HP Mariner Mag EFI that is being rebuilt. The motor lasted a total of 11 years before she finally gave in. I hope to get another 11 out of it.

I see you're from Magnolia, I got folks in Montgomery, Splendora, New Caney, Katy, Houston and the Pasadena area. My parents live between Palestine and Fairfield, I got a daughter in the DFW area and a son in Chandler (just south of Tyler). Do you know any Seiter folks?
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Not sure I follow you on that one, sorry bout that. What do you mean about the "what Power"? I have a 200HP Mariner Mag EFI that is being rebuilt. The motor lasted a total of 11 years before she finally gave in. I hope to get another 11 out of it.

I see you're from Magnolia, I got folks in Montgomery, Splendora, New Caney, Katy, Houston and the Pasadena area. My parents live between Palestine and Fairfield, I got a daughter in the DFW area and a son in Chandler (just south of Tyler). Do you know any Seiter folks?
I ment motor..Man you got people all around me..If your ever in town pm me and i'll take ya fishing.Dont know ant by the name.
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Hey Bob,
I'm just curious whats it cost to rebuild an O/B motor these days?
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Old 10-06-08, 05:40 PM   #10
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back to black..great stuff..

i use it on my car since i'm very particular about cleaning my '85 dodge

i use it on bumpers,bumper guards,trim,windsheild wiper arms.. lots of stuff

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Old 10-07-08, 02:55 PM   #11
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Hey Bob,
I'm just curious whats it cost to rebuild an O/B motor these days?
I used a guy down in north Florida called Northwest Florida Outboard Machine Shop. He drove 5 hours up to north Georgia and retrieved my motor on Sep 27 and is bringing it back to me this Thursday and installing it on my boat. He machined the entire block, replaced all of the bearings, one piston, all new rings and seals, cleaned my injectors and pressure tested them, tested all of electronics (replaced two staters), repainted my lower unit, guaranteed the thing for five years as long as I follow his "break in" instructions to the letter of the law. All for $4150.00

Most of the local Atlanta guys would not touch anything but a block overhaul for a one year warranty for $5000.00. It's was crazy.

I will post pictures on Thursday evening after the install.
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Good deal, Looking forward to seein those pictures!

Thanks,
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Can't wait for the test run pics..Bet your getting excited
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Old 10-09-08, 12:21 PM   #14
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Well, it's almost 12:15 here in Georgia and the guy is about an hour away. They say it won't take but a couple of hours for them to hook it up. Here is waht I have to do on the break-in so I don't jeopardize the warranty:
4-6 hours of Idling, then 10 hours not exceeding 3500 RPMS, varying between 3000, 3200, and 3500. Then I have to remove the fuel filter after I have most of the gas run out of the tank and fresh gas put in it. Put my new Micron 10 filter on to make sure that the ethanol induced moisture gets into the motor, change the plugs then run her on up to the top end. All of this is detectable on the computer analysis, so no getting ahead of the game on the break-in. I've got the tank mixed at 100:1 and the oil injection will produce the normal 50:1 according to his break-in manual. I just put 42 gal of 93 octane gas in there this morning for a total of $165.00 (OUCH!). With any kind of luck I will have my break-in done by going tomorrow and saturday.
I'm headed to lake Guntersville on Sunday and coming home on Thursday. I hope I have free running by the time I get there.
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Old 10-09-08, 10:51 PM   #15
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is it wednesday yet? hahaha, can't wait bob. NANA-NAN- A NANA i get to ride with bob FIRST GANG!! hahahahaha. rubbing it in on ol mississippiboy bob. lmao.
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Good luck with everything and hope you catch a bunch of fish.
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Old 10-10-08, 07:52 PM   #17
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"If it weren't for bad luck I'ld have no luck at all! Gloom, Despair, and agony on me!"
Well the motor is hung on the Astro and I got 4 1/2 hours of idling break-in on it. All the while I noticed a strange vibration like I wasn't hitting on all cylinders. So I tried to get her up on pad for a little break in around 3000 to 3500 Rs and it t[weren't happening. Changed the plugs today, re did the fuel lines going into and out of the fuel pump (noticed them leaking), found one burnt wire from my voltage regulator and thought that I had her fixed. Nope! not yet. Well the guy in Florida tells me they don't repair the electrical system. I asked him if he tested the engine before returning it to me to which he responded he notice a high voltage indication and swapped my voltage regulator out with one in the shop then loaded it on the truck and sent it to me. Hmmmmm? Did you check the stator like you said ya was going to do based on a symptom I told you about before the motor blew up? Nope! Well $4225.00 later and I am still down with out a boat.
I am going to have a local mechanic put it on the analyzer and see what we can figure out. Tomorrow I am going to do an old fashion plug check with the engine running to determine which cylinders are not hitting. My hope is that it is one side or the other. That would be a pretty solid indication of a bad power pack (switch box). I can change those out myself for about 425.00 (pair). If it's the stator which is also a real possibility, then it will have to go to a mechanic because I don't have a flywheel puller nor the experience to tackle it unsupervised.
Alas, I have notified John and Lisa that I will have to cancel next week's visit with them. I still plan to spend some time with that fine couple in the very near future though! Thanks!
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That sucks bob . it's a shame that you can be charged for the work the guy felt like doing and still not have the boat running at that price . I wish you luck in getting it back on the water soon .

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Bob, that does suck. I hope your not drowning in your sorrows. It is what it is though and that's what you have to work with. I don't know enough about 'em to be of any machanical help to ya, but I do hope It's an easy fix for ya.
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Thanks, guys and Woody's right, "it is what it is". I just have to save a little more lunch money and get r done.
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