retro tournament

usngsm2 · 05-04-07, 03:53 AM

If you have ever watched UFC or any other type of bass tournaments with the pros you may like this idea. I would like to see a competition with todays biggest names on the b.a.s.s tour BUT without the use of todays sophisticated depth finders and gps systems. Pretty much limiting the pro to their "bare bones" skill, espeically finding fish. How do you think this would pan out? What would you allow and not allow?

bassbooger · 05-04-07, 08:09 AM

I think that would make for an interesting show. Throw them on a lake in a jon boat with only an outboard, trolling motor and their tackle. No electronics at all.

It would be very interesting to see what they could do without all the extras.

Patrick Krueger, Jr. · 05-04-07, 09:09 PM

No boats, one rod/reel, three lures, one fish, 30 minutes.

OUTLAW · 05-04-07, 09:18 PM

It takes me 30 minutes to find a lure

jooleyen · 05-04-07, 11:13 PM

Lmao......

texasbasser · 05-04-07, 11:14 PM

I think it would be an awesome show..

scrap · 05-05-07, 01:27 AM

27 minutes of those thirty would be commericals.

bubba bass bigfoot · 05-05-07, 11:36 AM

i think it would be a great show, see how good the pros really are.
i dont use all the extras i dont even have a bass boat and i still catch nice bass, they better be able to lol.

ILfishinman · 05-07-07, 09:30 PM

yea, make em' do it like the rest of us lol

WIUbassin · 05-07-07, 10:13 PM

i think you would find that the pro's whose specialties are shallow water would just dominate here. If you ever watch the tourneys on tv they talk about how one guy is dominate on deep water, some with like current what not. But guys who prefer fishing the bank would be at quite the advantage sense the deep water boys would have nothing to go off of. Atleast thats what I kinda think about it.

zooker · 05-08-07, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by OUTLAW

It takes me 30 minutes to find a lure

outlaw
we are going to have to send you to tackle org 101 boss..

zooker

bassthumb32 · 05-08-07, 10:37 AM

They Can Do It. I Dont See Why Anyone Would Say Lets See If They Can Do It Like Us. They Are Pros For A Reason. You Dont Get That Far Without Being Very Good. Its Impossible To Make It That Far On Luck.

bassbooger · 05-08-07, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bassthumb32

They Can Do It. I Dont See Why Anyone Would Say Lets See If They Can Do It Like Us. They Are Pros For A Reason. You Dont Get That Far Without Being Very Good. Its Impossible To Make It That Far On Luck.

I'm sure they could do good, but just last week I read an article from an interview with KVD after he won the Guntersville tourney and he mentioned using his bionix shad noise producer to get the bass worked up. Now tell me he could have done just as good if he didn't have that piece of equipment. He even stated himself that while other guys had stopped getting bit on the shad beds that his bite kept going due to that piece of equipment. To me, stuff like that should not be allowed in a tournament, but it isn't up to me to decide on those factors.

everettvet · 05-08-07, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bassbooger

I'm sure they could do good, but just last week I read an article from an interview with KVD after he won the Guntersville tourney and he mentioned using his bionix shad noise producer to get the bass worked up. Now tell me he could have done just as good if he didn't have that piece of equipment. He even stated himself that while other guys had stopped getting bit on the shad beds that his bite kept going due to that piece of equipment. To me, stuff like that should not be allowed in a tournament, but it isn't up to me to decide on those factors.

Something to consider. Did he really use it? When the bassmaster show with that tourney comes out we might be able to tell. These guys are great at fishing, but they are also great at taking care of their sponsors. KVD is one of the best at pluging a sponsor. Maybe he used it and maybe he didn't, I don't know. Maybe he was just getting a sponsor some press.

If you look at a lot of the articles these guys write or contribute to, their recommendations are basicly a list of sponsors. I believe more of the articles when they mention other companies/lures than the ones that help them make a living.

bassthumb32 · 05-08-07, 12:15 PM

Ok The Biosonix Thing Does Work Ive Fished With It. (and Im Not Sponsored By Them Lol). So Him Saying That Without It He May Have Not Done As Well Is Prolly True. But As Far As Him Not Being Able To Use It Why Not It Gives Him An Edge. Just Like A Renegade Lure Compared To A Megabass Lure.

I Fish With A Pro Fairly Often Who Is Good Friends With Kvd. And I Asked Him If He Really Does Use Strike King Lures Like He Says He Does. Frank Told Me That He Really Does. He Just Modifies Them A Little.

mont_lunker_hunter · 05-08-07, 12:18 PM

I agree with everything said here, however, no matter what gadget or piece of equipment being used, you still have to find fish. KVD found those fish, if he had been in dead water using that gadget he wouldn't have caught anything. It's a tool, just like anything else. Which brings me to the original question of old time bassin'. I think it would be awesome if for nothing else but to remind cry babies like Swindle of how it used to be and just how good he's got it. But, how far back are we talkin'? Some equipment has been around for years, a good example is a flasher. And remember the pro's use most of their equipment to fine tune their presentations...they don't rely on them soley to catch fish. It seems that some comments suggest the pros would be more like the average man if you take away all their fancy equipment. That i think is untrue, afterall, there bare bones skill is what got them their sponsors and fancy equipment...they had to start somewhere.

Patrick Krueger, Jr. · 05-08-07, 03:49 PM

I like figuring out depth and structure changes with carolina-rigs and crankbaits. Even with electronics you get a better mental picture of where the fish live once you start fishing.

I was thinking of taking away polarized sunglasses for that 30 minute tournament I suggested, but personally, I won't fish without them.

lizardsrule · 05-10-07, 03:27 PM

The pro's don't use their fishfinders near as much as people think. There was a tourney one time where some super Walley anglers were paired up with some super Bass guys. The walleye fisherman rely a ton on their depth finders, where as the bass guys don't. The comments from the Walley guys was that the only one that they fished with that really used his depthfinder was Ish Monroe. I bet the Pro's would do just fine, after a couple of days of practice that is. I wish they would just make any lake they are fishing completely OFF LIMITS for 1 month prior to the tourney. Then let's see how they all do without the local guides knowledege, or being able to prefish for 1-2 weeks.

Lizards

zooker · 05-10-07, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lizardsrule

I wish they would just make any lake they are fishing completely OFF LIMITS for 1 month prior to the tourney. Then let's see how they all do without the local guides knowledege, or being able to prefish for 1-2 weeks.

Lizards

lizard
you wish is about to come true.. the elite 50 that are fishing high rock next week. have to #1 make the cut. and #2 they have to fish lake townsend. a private mini lake near pti-greensboro airport-where there is just 1 launch..and it is controled by the county they are going to close the lake to all other traffic. where NO PREFISHING was allowed. as far as i know there is no gps topo maps available. the last 2 days are going to be fun to watch..mind you townsend is around 900-1000 acres..

zooker

dampeoples · 05-10-07, 05:55 PM

That day on the lake series in Bassmaster magazine tells you how they'd do, they don't prefish that either.

All that equipment advantage is the advertising getting to you guys, these people are pro's because they know how to catch fish, period. All of the crap they spout off about is available to anyone with the money and inclination to go buy it.

WBACON8858 · 05-10-07, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by usngsm2

If you have ever watched UFC or any other type of bass tournaments with the pros you may like this idea. I would like to see a competition with todays biggest names on the b.a.s.s tour BUT without the use of todays sophisticated depth finders and gps systems. Pretty much limiting the pro to their "bare bones" skill, espeically finding fish. How do you think this would pan out? What would you allow and not allow?

My money will be on Rick Clunn

brushhog · 05-10-07, 09:30 PM

I agree that a lot of what they say is to pimp their sponsors, but I think it would be fascinating to watch a competitive tournament set up this way.... A good follow up is, who would you bet on to win that??

texasbasser · 05-10-07, 10:04 PM

Ish Monroe would be my bet

hackattack · 05-10-07, 10:25 PM

kvd, he is outrageous

zooker · 05-11-07, 04:51 AM

it is high rock during the post spawn period... best bet would be some one very good at jigs,soft plastic's... vandam has a history of NOT doing very well on high rock..

zooker

05-04-07, 09:09 PM	#3
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05-05-07, 01:27 AM	#7
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WIUbassin BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: East Central Illinois Posts: 213	i think you would find that the pro's whose specialties are shallow water would just dominate here. If you ever watch the tourneys on tv they talk about how one guy is dominate on deep water, some with like current what not. But guys who prefer fishing the bank would be at quite the advantage sense the deep water boys would have nothing to go off of. Atleast thats what I kinda think about it. __________________ "Cuttin Class to Catch Bass..." www .wiu. edu/users/fishing

05-04-07, 03:53 AM	#1
usngsm2 BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: jacksonville, floriida Posts: 86	retro tournament If you have ever watched UFC or any other type of bass tournaments with the pros you may like this idea. I would like to see a competition with todays biggest names on the b.a.s.s tour BUT without the use of todays sophisticated depth finders and gps systems. Pretty much limiting the pro to their "bare bones" skill, espeically finding fish. How do you think this would pan out? What would you allow and not allow?

05-04-07, 08:09 AM	#2
bassbooger BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Dallas, NC Posts: 316	I think that would make for an interesting show. Throw them on a lake in a jon boat with only an outboard, trolling motor and their tackle. No electronics at all. It would be very interesting to see what they could do without all the extras. __________________ cast, reel, cast!!! Repeat if necessary!! Dallas, NC

05-04-07, 11:13 PM	#5
jooleyen BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,509	Lmao......

05-04-07, 11:14 PM	#6
texasbasser BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Antonio, Tx Posts: 2,301	I think it would be an awesome show..

05-05-07, 11:36 AM	#8
bubba bass bigfoot BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 206	i think it would be a great show, see how good the pros really are. i dont use all the extras i dont even have a bass boat and i still catch nice bass, they better be able to lol.

05-08-07, 10:37 AM	#12
bassthumb32 BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Fort Loudon, PA Posts: 682	They Can Do It. I Dont See Why Anyone Would Say Lets See If They Can Do It Like Us. They Are Pros For A Reason. You Dont Get That Far Without Being Very Good. Its Impossible To Make It That Far On Luck. __________________ MY LIFETIME GOAL IS TO KEEP AT LEAST A SMALL CASE OF BASSTHUMB FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.

05-08-07, 12:15 PM	#15
bassthumb32 BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Fort Loudon, PA Posts: 682	Ok The Biosonix Thing Does Work Ive Fished With It. (and Im Not Sponsored By Them Lol). So Him Saying That Without It He May Have Not Done As Well Is Prolly True. But As Far As Him Not Being Able To Use It Why Not It Gives Him An Edge. Just Like A Renegade Lure Compared To A Megabass Lure. I Fish With A Pro Fairly Often Who Is Good Friends With Kvd. And I Asked Him If He Really Does Use Strike King Lures Like He Says He Does. Frank Told Me That He Really Does. He Just Modifies Them A Little. __________________ MY LIFETIME GOAL IS TO KEEP AT LEAST A SMALL CASE OF BASSTHUMB FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.

05-08-07, 12:18 PM	#16
mont_lunker_hunter BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Monticello, Arkansas Posts: 371	I agree with everything said here, however, no matter what gadget or piece of equipment being used, you still have to find fish. KVD found those fish, if he had been in dead water using that gadget he wouldn't have caught anything. It's a tool, just like anything else. Which brings me to the original question of old time bassin'. I think it would be awesome if for nothing else but to remind cry babies like Swindle of how it used to be and just how good he's got it. But, how far back are we talkin'? Some equipment has been around for years, a good example is a flasher. And remember the pro's use most of their equipment to fine tune their presentations...they don't rely on them soley to catch fish. It seems that some comments suggest the pros would be more like the average man if you take away all their fancy equipment. That i think is untrue, afterall, there bare bones skill is what got them their sponsors and fancy equipment...they had to start somewhere.

05-08-07, 03:49 PM	#17
Patrick Krueger, Jr. BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kenosha, WI Posts: 567	I like figuring out depth and structure changes with carolina-rigs and crankbaits. Even with electronics you get a better mental picture of where the fish live once you start fishing. I was thinking of taking away polarized sunglasses for that 30 minute tournament I suggested, but personally, I won't fish without them. __________________ The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. - John Buchan

05-10-07, 03:27 PM	#18
lizardsrule BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saint Augustine, FL Posts: 7,374	The pro's don't use their fishfinders near as much as people think. There was a tourney one time where some super Walley anglers were paired up with some super Bass guys. The walleye fisherman rely a ton on their depth finders, where as the bass guys don't. The comments from the Walley guys was that the only one that they fished with that really used his depthfinder was Ish Monroe. I bet the Pro's would do just fine, after a couple of days of practice that is. I wish they would just make any lake they are fishing completely OFF LIMITS for 1 month prior to the tourney. Then let's see how they all do without the local guides knowledege, or being able to prefish for 1-2 weeks. Lizards __________________ There are three types of Snakes I hate 1. Live Snakes 2. Dead Snakes 3. Sticks that look like Snakes. And Gators too!

05-10-07, 05:55 PM	#20
dampeoples BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 826	That day on the lake series in Bassmaster magazine tells you how they'd do, they don't prefish that either. All that equipment advantage is the advertising getting to you guys, these people are pro's because they know how to catch fish, period. All of the crap they spout off about is available to anyone with the money and inclination to go buy it. __________________ The Jon Boat Fishing Club and Fishing with Sterling Peoples

05-10-07, 09:30 PM	#22
brushhog BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Whitesboro, NY Posts: 1,222	I agree that a lot of what they say is to pimp their sponsors, but I think it would be fascinating to watch a competitive tournament set up this way.... A good follow up is, who would you bet on to win that??

05-10-07, 10:04 PM	#23
texasbasser BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Antonio, Tx Posts: 2,301	Ish Monroe would be my bet

05-10-07, 10:25 PM	#24
hackattack BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tigard, Oregon Posts: 358	kvd, he is outrageous

05-11-07, 04:51 AM	#25
zooker BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: denton nc Posts: 13,441	it is high rock during the post spawn period... best bet would be some one very good at jigs,soft plastic's... vandam has a history of NOT doing very well on high rock.. zooker __________________ the godfather.. aml in remission since 7-20-09

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