Why is the wimpier rod rated for stronger line?

jooleyen · 07-13-10, 01:30 AM

http://www.quantumfishing.com/produc...Superlite.aspx

Why is the 7'0mh rated for higher lb test than the 7'4MH? It makes no sense to me. I'd rather flip with a 7'4 than a 7'0 but the line rating scares me.

keithdog · 07-13-10, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jooleyen

http://www.quantumfishing.com/produc...Superlite.aspx

Why is the 7'0mh rated for higher lb test than the 7'4MH? It makes no sense to me. I'd rather flip with a 7'4 than a 7'0 but the line rating scares me.

I would send their customer support an email and ask them. It could be a typo mistake on someones part. I've found that to be the case more than once.

Tavery5 · 07-13-10, 10:18 AM

I may be off base, but I am going to guess this has to do with the laws of leverage. With all things being resonably the same between the rods, the extra 4 inches would increase the amount of pressure that is being applied to the weakest area of the shaft. The trade off for the longer rod would be a slight decrease in the in the amount of weight it can handle without failure.

Ebbetsguy · 07-13-10, 10:25 AM

I would also check wheter both rods are fast, x-fast or medium fast . If the smaller rod is of a lesser action then it can take a higher Line pound rating without snapping the tip. It isnt only the power rating but also the action, as that determines where the tip will start to arch.

Jrob78 · 07-13-10, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Tavery5

I may be off base, but I am going to guess this has to do with the laws of leverage. With all things being resonably the same between the rods, the extra 4 inches would increase the amount of pressure that is being applied to the weakest area of the shaft. The trade off for the longer rod would be a slight decrease in the in the amount of weight it can handle without failure.

On the flip side, it would seem that the longer length would distribute the load over a larger area which would enable the rod to handle more weight.

BigBassin144 · 07-13-10, 10:50 AM

I'd have to agree with Ebbets. Since they are the same power (MH), I'd check out the actiion. If the shorter rod has an XF action and the longer has a F action, it would effect the line rating.

Now, there is one other rod I've seen like this. The Abu Garcia 7'6" MH Vendetta has a line rating of 1/2-3oz, while the 7'6" H rod has a line rating of 3/8-1-1/2.

BB

jooleyen · 07-13-10, 11:17 AM

I checked the taper/action. It's on the page in the link. I was thinking along the lines of Jrob. And Keith, I'll do that... good idea.

Jrob78 · 07-13-10, 11:25 AM

The 7' rod is probably a designated c-rig rod, or something along those lines. It is probably built on a blank with a magnum taper. The odd thing is all the MH rods are listed as 6 powers but they are clearly not all the same.

jooleyen · 07-13-10, 11:29 AM

I had the 7' and it was no c-rig rod. What's a magnum taper?

Jrob78 · 07-13-10, 11:32 AM

A magnum taper basically means that the butt of the blank is of a larger diameter than its non-magnum counterpart. It makes for a stiffer rod with more backbone. Most casting rods do have a magnum taper, some more so than others though.

Rebbasser · 07-13-10, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tavery5

I may be off base, but I am going to guess this has to do with the laws of leverage. With all things being resonably the same between the rods, the extra 4 inches would increase the amount of pressure that is being applied to the weakest area of the shaft. The trade off for the longer rod would be a slight decrease in the in the amount of weight it can handle without failure.

That would be my guess. Take a pool cue and then a dowel the same diameter 3 times as long and try to break it. I guarantee the longer one will break first, or at least much easier.

keithdog · 07-13-10, 07:54 PM

The website shows they both have a fast taper. This sounds like a question for nofear! Where is a engineer when you need one???

rangerryan · 07-15-10, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tavery5

I may be off base, but I am going to guess this has to do with the laws of leverage. With all things being resonably the same between the rods, the extra 4 inches would increase the amount of pressure that is being applied to the weakest area of the shaft. The trade off for the longer rod would be a slight decrease in the in the amount of weight it can handle without failure.

Common sense..... I like it.

07-13-10, 01:30 AM	#1
jooleyen BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,509	Why is the wimpier rod rated for stronger line? http://www.quantumfishing.com/produc...Superlite.aspx Why is the 7'0mh rated for higher lb test than the 7'4MH? It makes no sense to me. I'd rather flip with a 7'4 than a 7'0 but the line rating scares me.

07-13-10, 10:25 AM	#4
Ebbetsguy BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 483	I would also check wheter both rods are fast, x-fast or medium fast . If the smaller rod is of a lesser action then it can take a higher Line pound rating without snapping the tip. It isnt only the power rating but also the action, as that determines where the tip will start to arch. Last edited by Ebbetsguy; 07-13-10 at 10:42 AM.

07-13-10, 10:50 AM	#6
BigBassin144 BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 9,463	I'd have to agree with Ebbets. Since they are the same power (MH), I'd check out the actiion. If the shorter rod has an XF action and the longer has a F action, it would effect the line rating. Now, there is one other rod I've seen like this. The Abu Garcia 7'6" MH Vendetta has a line rating of 1/2-3oz, while the 7'6" H rod has a line rating of 3/8-1-1/2. BB __________________ As of June 14, 2014 the members of the BF.com forum have moved to basschat.yuku.com!

07-13-10, 10:18 AM	#3
Tavery5 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 2,427	I may be off base, but I am going to guess this has to do with the laws of leverage. With all things being resonably the same between the rods, the extra 4 inches would increase the amount of pressure that is being applied to the weakest area of the shaft. The trade off for the longer rod would be a slight decrease in the in the amount of weight it can handle without failure.

07-13-10, 11:17 AM	#7
jooleyen BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,509	I checked the taper/action. It's on the page in the link. I was thinking along the lines of Jrob. And Keith, I'll do that... good idea.

07-13-10, 11:25 AM	#8
Jrob78 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 4,671	The 7' rod is probably a designated c-rig rod, or something along those lines. It is probably built on a blank with a magnum taper. The odd thing is all the MH rods are listed as 6 powers but they are clearly not all the same.

07-13-10, 11:29 AM	#9
jooleyen BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,509	I had the 7' and it was no c-rig rod. What's a magnum taper?

07-13-10, 11:32 AM	#10
Jrob78 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 4,671	A magnum taper basically means that the butt of the blank is of a larger diameter than its non-magnum counterpart. It makes for a stiffer rod with more backbone. Most casting rods do have a magnum taper, some more so than others though.

07-13-10, 07:54 PM	#12
keithdog BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: IN Posts: 8,308	The website shows they both have a fast taper. This sounds like a question for nofear! Where is a engineer when you need one???

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