Just a question...

gonefishin3 · 09-27-10, 09:27 AM

Ive seen pictures and ive seen bass people on tv fishing the eastern lakes with all the grass and lillypads and all the pretty trees and such but what is it really like ? Im out west and fish desert lakes and only desert lakes. Went to lake choke this year and i caught one fish on my first cast on that lake... oh and a turtle and couldent catch anything else... We got tired of catching nothing and went down to lake amistad and proceded to catch an abundence of fish... for those of you that fish both desert lakes and vegitational lakes how do you fish them differently ? Of course i know that it depends on type of year ect but i mean just in general. Mabe kevin would do a video on this? I think it would be interesting :P thanks !!!

coachpurdy · 09-27-10, 06:13 PM

They have been pulling all the corps lakes down around here, add to that we haven't gotten any rain in a month or more. So our lakes probably look more like a desert lake than anything else. I caught a few Saturday but they were so full of ticks they weren't worth keeping. hahaha

BassMoJo · 09-27-10, 08:06 PM

I don't believe there are many people that agree with me but I prefer deep rock piles, brush piles, humps, ledges, channels, points, as opposed to grass. With that said my lakes are deep and aside from one don't have an abandance of veg so naturlly I perfer deep structure. Jigs,shaky,dropshot produces best for me 15-30ft

bamabassman · 09-27-10, 09:26 PM

Never fished a "desert" lake before, but I would think that bassmojo hit the nails head. Fish finders can show you where the structure is. Dropoffs and road beds and rock piles are always a good spot. ANY type of structure is where the fish will be I would think.

Bubba_Bruiser · 09-27-10, 09:35 PM

I am following BMJ and Bama. The fish will relate to something and possibly cruise more seems like in lakes like that. But if they don't have cover to relate too, I imagine they will turn to contours and structure. Do desert lakes have much structure like creeks channels and what not, or are they just big holes with water in them?

Chancho · 09-27-10, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BassMoJo

I don't believe there are many people that agree with me but I prefer deep rock piles, brush piles, humps, ledges, channels, points, as opposed to grass. With that said my lakes are deep and aside from one don't have an abandance of veg so naturlly I perfer deep structure. Jigs,shaky,dropshot produces best for me 15-30ft

Same here. Love to fish the grass when it's available, but that's not often. It's mostly deep brush, laydowns, chunk rock, etc. I wouldn't mind heading west to check out that water, though. It's all good when we're fishing.

walkeraviator · 09-28-10, 09:34 AM

Yeah here in teh Bluegrass... vegetation is hard to come by... so i like points, channels, and rock transitions... With that said... i will pitch and flip Docks and Timber every chance i get....

gonefishin3 · 09-28-10, 09:47 AM

In the desert lakes its a must to have good sonar cuts are hard to come by but when you do hold that pole tight.... i have gone around my lake and have found around 6 cuts... when the water comes back up.. rock everywhere and little sand we have some stick brush but not much and we hardly ever catch fish in there. bubba no we dont have creek channels comeing into the lake the main one is in accesable. the cuts im talking about above are where some rain (when we get it) falls in and creates cuts.. i wouldent say it is a hole with water in it... it has a river flowing through it and a dam...

walkeraviator: docks and timber... never on this lake. its hard to come by a stump and there are no houses on the lake. It would be interesting if you guys would try west lakes and the west lake guys can try eastern lakes :P

walkeraviator · 09-28-10, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gonefishin3

walkeraviator: docks and timber... never on this lake. its hard to come by a stump and there are no houses on the lake. It would be interesting if you guys would try west lakes and the west lake guys can try eastern lakes :P

Yeah I watched a tourney on Lake Meade once... i was lost from minute one...

cassidyta · 09-28-10, 02:28 PM

I fish Mead and other such lakes often. Yes, cut outs are important, but so are ledges. I find more of those on mead than other types of structure. Those types of lakes often have subtle bumps that turn into steep drop offs or sometimes even trenches.

Too often we look for the raised surfaces, but the depressions (bowls) are just as effective.
I will first work down hill. Cast on to the slope and let the bait fall down the steep parts. After working that for a while, I will move and work the bait up the slopes.

thekevster · 09-28-10, 02:36 PM

Desert lakes are different no doubt but alot of the same principles remain the same I would think.I have never tried fishing a desert lake but I have always wanted to try lake mead because I used to live out west but I didnt really fish then.Lake mead was where the first bassmaster classic was held.If I am right lake mead also has smallmouth bass.

Hey since you have experiance with lakes out west I know that lakes up in the northern states the bass dont get very big because they grow slower and live longer then in the southern states.For instance a 5lb bass up north is like a 10lb bass down south and there both around the same age.
Do the bass tend to grow slower out west like up north?

cassidyta · 09-28-10, 03:39 PM

Out west is up to definition. I am in San Diego. Our bass are rather large. This is due to a lot of variables. Not to be over looked is the fact that a lot of our lakes stock trout which in turn get eaten by the bass. Our bass are usually equal in size to those you would find in Texas or Florida.

3dkicker · 09-28-10, 09:10 PM

East coast fishing is exactly like what you describe on the tv shows. Grass, pads, and trees. But we do have lakes that aren't like that at all too (or for the most part). Some lakes are deep clear mountain lakes with little grass or pads. And then you get some with everything and then more which gets really tough because everything looks like it should hold fish. You really have to figure those fish out.

Pay attention to the Bragging/Monkey page since many pics are posted there.

gonefishin3 · 09-29-10, 09:23 AM

I dunno about you guys but i get excited when i hook a three lber

I suppose it depends on the lake some lakes produce bigger fish and some just dont in general i think there about the same. The lake i normally fish on isnt very well managed because during spawning season they let all the friggin water out and the eggs die also they put preaditor fish in the lake... So no i dont think the fish are very different..

thekevster · 09-30-10, 06:03 PM

I agree I get excited when I hook virtually any bass.
cassidyta yea that makes sense that the bass are rather large out there because your pretty far down south.Its mostly up North like in Ohio and places like that where the bass grow slower.

09-27-10, 09:27 AM	#1
gonefishin3 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 227	Just a question... Ive seen pictures and ive seen bass people on tv fishing the eastern lakes with all the grass and lillypads and all the pretty trees and such but what is it really like ? Im out west and fish desert lakes and only desert lakes. Went to lake choke this year and i caught one fish on my first cast on that lake... oh and a turtle and couldent catch anything else... We got tired of catching nothing and went down to lake amistad and proceded to catch an abundence of fish... for those of you that fish both desert lakes and vegitational lakes how do you fish them differently ? Of course i know that it depends on type of year ect but i mean just in general. Mabe kevin would do a video on this? I think it would be interesting :P thanks !!!

09-27-10, 08:06 PM	#3
BassMoJo BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hampstead, MD Posts: 801	I don't believe there are many people that agree with me but I prefer deep rock piles, brush piles, humps, ledges, channels, points, as opposed to grass. With that said my lakes are deep and aside from one don't have an abandance of veg so naturlly I perfer deep structure. Jigs,shaky,dropshot produces best for me 15-30ft __________________ This is my Signature there are many like it, but this one is mine.

09-27-10, 09:26 PM	#4
bamabassman BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: cedar bluff, alabama Posts: 15,292	Never fished a "desert" lake before, but I would think that bassmojo hit the nails head. Fish finders can show you where the structure is. Dropoffs and road beds and rock piles are always a good spot. ANY type of structure is where the fish will be I would think. __________________ so many lures, so little time.

09-27-10, 09:35 PM	#5
Bubba_Bruiser BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South MS Posts: 3,659	I am following BMJ and Bama. The fish will relate to something and possibly cruise more seems like in lakes like that. But if they don't have cover to relate too, I imagine they will turn to contours and structure. Do desert lakes have much structure like creeks channels and what not, or are they just big holes with water in them? __________________ \,,,,/ ROCK ON! HRN4L!

09-28-10, 02:28 PM	#10
cassidyta BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,928	I fish Mead and other such lakes often. Yes, cut outs are important, but so are ledges. I find more of those on mead than other types of structure. Those types of lakes often have subtle bumps that turn into steep drop offs or sometimes even trenches. Too often we look for the raised surfaces, but the depressions (bowls) are just as effective. I will first work down hill. Cast on to the slope and let the bait fall down the steep parts. After working that for a while, I will move and work the bait up the slopes. __________________ If you have ever wondered if you should retie, the answer is yes.

09-27-10, 06:13 PM	#2
coachpurdy BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: coffeeville, ms Posts: 143	They have been pulling all the corps lakes down around here, add to that we haven't gotten any rain in a month or more. So our lakes probably look more like a desert lake than anything else. I caught a few Saturday but they were so full of ticks they weren't worth keeping. hahaha

09-28-10, 09:34 AM	#7
walkeraviator BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 1,119	Yeah here in teh Bluegrass... vegetation is hard to come by... so i like points, channels, and rock transitions... With that said... i will pitch and flip Docks and Timber every chance i get....

09-28-10, 09:47 AM	#8
gonefishin3 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 227	In the desert lakes its a must to have good sonar cuts are hard to come by but when you do hold that pole tight.... i have gone around my lake and have found around 6 cuts... when the water comes back up.. rock everywhere and little sand we have some stick brush but not much and we hardly ever catch fish in there. bubba no we dont have creek channels comeing into the lake the main one is in accesable. the cuts im talking about above are where some rain (when we get it) falls in and creates cuts.. i wouldent say it is a hole with water in it... it has a river flowing through it and a dam... walkeraviator: docks and timber... never on this lake. its hard to come by a stump and there are no houses on the lake. It would be interesting if you guys would try west lakes and the west lake guys can try eastern lakes :P

09-28-10, 02:36 PM	#11
thekevster BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 72	Desert lakes are different no doubt but alot of the same principles remain the same I would think.I have never tried fishing a desert lake but I have always wanted to try lake mead because I used to live out west but I didnt really fish then.Lake mead was where the first bassmaster classic was held.If I am right lake mead also has smallmouth bass. Hey since you have experiance with lakes out west I know that lakes up in the northern states the bass dont get very big because they grow slower and live longer then in the southern states.For instance a 5lb bass up north is like a 10lb bass down south and there both around the same age. Do the bass tend to grow slower out west like up north?

09-28-10, 03:39 PM	#12
cassidyta BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,928	Out west is up to definition. I am in San Diego. Our bass are rather large. This is due to a lot of variables. Not to be over looked is the fact that a lot of our lakes stock trout which in turn get eaten by the bass. Our bass are usually equal in size to those you would find in Texas or Florida. __________________ If you have ever wondered if you should retie, the answer is yes.

09-28-10, 09:10 PM	#13
3dkicker BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Spotsylvania, VA Posts: 4,483	East coast fishing is exactly like what you describe on the tv shows. Grass, pads, and trees. But we do have lakes that aren't like that at all too (or for the most part). Some lakes are deep clear mountain lakes with little grass or pads. And then you get some with everything and then more which gets really tough because everything looks like it should hold fish. You really have to figure those fish out. Pay attention to the Bragging/Monkey page since many pics are posted there. __________________ Smitty www.smittystubes.com

09-29-10, 09:23 AM	#14
gonefishin3 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 227	I dunno about you guys but i get excited when i hook a three lber I suppose it depends on the lake some lakes produce bigger fish and some just dont in general i think there about the same. The lake i normally fish on isnt very well managed because during spawning season they let all the friggin water out and the eggs die also they put preaditor fish in the lake... So no i dont think the fish are very different..

09-30-10, 06:03 PM	#15
thekevster BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 72	I agree I get excited when I hook virtually any bass. cassidyta yea that makes sense that the bass are rather large out there because your pretty far down south.Its mostly up North like in Ohio and places like that where the bass grow slower.

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