crankbaits, how to?

pacordon · 11-30-09, 01:07 AM

when attaching a crankbait to the line, I understand that you should use a snap of some kind. when the monkey appeared I went to buy some. my question is, what size to buy and do different size baits take a different size snaps? I looked at the large selection of snaps and stopped there, untill I know what this fishing technique requires. this may sound frivolous to some, but rather than I go out and just thrash the water and get nowhere. thought I ask the question.

Bubba_Bruiser · 11-30-09, 02:38 AM

Opinions may vary pac, but I have never used them. They might provide a wider wobble to the crank due to the line not being tied directly to the eye and ease in changing out quicker if you are talking about a snap. I know this doesn't answer what you asked, but are they really necessary?

Bassboss · 11-30-09, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pacordon

when attaching a crankbait to the line, I understand that you should use a snap of some kind. when the monkey appeared I went to buy some. my question is, what size to buy and do different size baits take a different size snaps? I looked at the large selection of snaps and stopped there, untill I know what this fishing technique requires. this may sound frivolous to some, but rather than I go out and just thrash the water and get nowhere. thought I ask the question.

The "O" ring they come with is good enough for me! Don't fix what ain't broke!

Abbeysdad · 11-30-09, 12:15 PM

"Size doesn't matter" ???

The use of snaps or snap swivels is a matter of preference. They can be really convenient if yer tossing bait after bait to find the right one the fish like cause it can save a lot of time instead of a constant retie.

As for size I think it's flexible and might be relative to the bait size - a larger bait may be deserving of a larger snap/or snap swivel, while a small bait should be smaller. You'd really have to evaluate the action of the bait.

In the end, I'd think that the use of a snap and it's size is all relative to the presentation - use it as long as it does not negatively affect the presentation or present a visual negative to the fish.

islandbass · 11-30-09, 01:29 PM

Most crankbaits that need a split ring or snap for it to work correctly come with it which means that you probably won't need to add any hardware.

My rule of thumb is if the crankbait came with a split ring or snap, it will be used, because the maker put it there for a reason. There is an exception of certain rapala lures that do not come with split rings for which they recommend their loop knot for maximum performance. They tell you on the box or little sheet that comes with the crankbait.

the size of the snap can affect negatively and positively the action of the bait. This can only be known for sure by experimentation by you. Rule of thumb... If it came with a ring or snap, use it. If it doesn't see if it works without one and add either to make it work if it doesn't. This is not rocket science. Now go get 'em!

BigBassin144 · 11-30-09, 03:00 PM

While snaps aren't necessary, they help a alot, especially if you're like me and switched cranks a lot.

I use duolock snaps, forgot what size though. I wouldn't use anything but those. Tying straight to the split ring if perfectly fine though. If the crank doesn't have a split ring (which I haven't seen any that don't) then you should probably use a snap.

BB

Marty · 11-30-09, 08:15 PM

I've used duolock snaps for as long as I can remember. The only size I've used is #1 because they are rated at 20# test and I've never needed more.

woody · 11-30-09, 09:12 PM

I've also been using the Duolock #1's. One other thing that hasn't been mentioned yet, is that I also prefer removing the split ring and attaching directly to the eyelet, whenever possible.

-Mark

keithdog · 11-30-09, 11:38 PM

I almost always will use a snap for crankbaits. Like the others have said, it's not necassary, but it's just so convenient for changing baits without retying all the time, saving time. Plus I don't like tying to split rings simply because I find the knot slips in between the wire rings of the split ring on occation. Oval split rings are supposed to eliminate this problem but I like the round rings better. The oval rings seem to disrupt the action of the bait more than the round rings do. At least thats been my experience. I tried the oval rings and went back to round. As for the snap size, I also use only the duo snaps. Size 1 snaps are good for most uses but I prefer to use size 2 snaps on the larger cranks. I will also use a size 2 whenever I am fishing in waters that also hold large pike for fear a 25 pound pike could seperate the bait from the snap provided the line don't break first.

northernfisher · 12-13-09, 07:55 PM

On crankbaits i would recommend using a loop knot to tie on your bait.

zooker · 12-13-09, 10:49 PM

i use a straight up palmar knot to the split ring.. loop knots only work well on very small cranks such as a #4 shad rap..to be honest a loop knot has lil to no effect on larger cranks like a dt 6 or a bandit..

where the hell was i when this thread started??

zooker

MississippiBoy · 12-14-09, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by zooker

where the hell was i when this thread started??

zooker

I was wondering the same thing. I'm sure a redhead was involved somehow, though...

BassinID · 12-14-09, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MississippiBoy

I was wondering the same thing. I'm sure a redhead was involved somehow, though...

Nice

zooker · 12-14-09, 11:53 AM

no sippi no mo red heads round here. except me and mines white...yes i have been known to forget things while a latina was present. alot of things like my name...

zooker

nofearengineer · 12-14-09, 03:19 PM

Red-heads are like heroin...

You know they're no good for ya, but man if you don't spend your life chasin' the dragon anway.

muddy · 12-14-09, 06:45 PM

I almost always use a duop lock snap, same as Marty size 1/20#, It does not seem to effect anything and since I broke both my thumbs several years ago in a car accidnet, any knot I can avoid makes my day easier
Islandbass brought up an excellent point and you can expolit the use of different SNAPS (NOT SNAP SWIVELS< THEY RUIN THE ACTION OF MANY LURES) to get different actions and wobbles out of a single bait, Oval snaps, wide snaps and thin snaps can have profound effects on lure actions and sometimes it is the difference

Having said this, a guy I fish with all the time , took out an old picture of a fish I hooked on Lake Tarpon in Florida, the fish is average in size , jumping out of the water with a shallow shad rap in its mouth and an old style BRASS SNAP SWIVEL, and I was throwing it.

11-30-09, 02:38 AM	#2
Bubba_Bruiser BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South MS Posts: 3,659	Opinions may vary pac, but I have never used them. They might provide a wider wobble to the crank due to the line not being tied directly to the eye and ease in changing out quicker if you are talking about a snap. I know this doesn't answer what you asked, but are they really necessary? __________________ \,,,,/ ROCK ON! HRN4L!

11-30-09, 01:29 PM	#5
islandbass BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WA State Posts: 1,783	Most crankbaits that need a split ring or snap for it to work correctly come with it which means that you probably won't need to add any hardware. My rule of thumb is if the crankbait came with a split ring or snap, it will be used, because the maker put it there for a reason. There is an exception of certain rapala lures that do not come with split rings for which they recommend their loop knot for maximum performance. They tell you on the box or little sheet that comes with the crankbait. the size of the snap can affect negatively and positively the action of the bait. This can only be known for sure by experimentation by you. Rule of thumb... If it came with a ring or snap, use it. If it doesn't see if it works without one and add either to make it work if it doesn't. This is not rocket science. Now go get 'em! __________________ ARX "If people concentrated on the really important things in life, there'd be a shortage of fishing poles." Doug Larson (Shimano 2005 Reel Catalog)

11-30-09, 03:00 PM	#6
BigBassin144 BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 9,463	While snaps aren't necessary, they help a alot, especially if you're like me and switched cranks a lot. I use duolock snaps, forgot what size though. I wouldn't use anything but those. Tying straight to the split ring if perfectly fine though. If the crank doesn't have a split ring (which I haven't seen any that don't) then you should probably use a snap. BB __________________ As of June 14, 2014 the members of the BF.com forum have moved to basschat.yuku.com!

11-30-09, 08:15 PM	#7
Marty BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 1,580	I've used duolock snaps for as long as I can remember. The only size I've used is #1 because they are rated at 20# test and I've never needed more. __________________ Meeting expenses is easy...they're EVERYWHERE The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits Rochester, NY

12-13-09, 10:49 PM	#11
zooker BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: denton nc Posts: 13,441	i use a straight up palmar knot to the split ring.. loop knots only work well on very small cranks such as a #4 shad rap..to be honest a loop knot has lil to no effect on larger cranks like a dt 6 or a bandit.. where the hell was i when this thread started?? zooker __________________ the godfather.. aml in remission since 7-20-09

11-30-09, 01:07 AM	#1
pacordon BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 43	crankbaits, how to? when attaching a crankbait to the line, I understand that you should use a snap of some kind. when the monkey appeared I went to buy some. my question is, what size to buy and do different size baits take a different size snaps? I looked at the large selection of snaps and stopped there, untill I know what this fishing technique requires. this may sound frivolous to some, but rather than I go out and just thrash the water and get nowhere. thought I ask the question.

11-30-09, 12:15 PM	#4
Abbeysdad BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Central NY - Finger Lakes Posts: 1,307	"Size doesn't matter" ??? The use of snaps or snap swivels is a matter of preference. They can be really convenient if yer tossing bait after bait to find the right one the fish like cause it can save a lot of time instead of a constant retie. As for size I think it's flexible and might be relative to the bait size - a larger bait may be deserving of a larger snap/or snap swivel, while a small bait should be smaller. You'd really have to evaluate the action of the bait. In the end, I'd think that the use of a snap and it's size is all relative to the presentation - use it as long as it does not negatively affect the presentation or present a visual negative to the fish. __________________ Fish now, work later

11-30-09, 09:12 PM	#8
woody BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Jonesville, Indiana Posts: 3,597	I've also been using the Duolock #1's. One other thing that hasn't been mentioned yet, is that I also prefer removing the split ring and attaching directly to the eyelet, whenever possible. -Mark

11-30-09, 11:38 PM	#9
keithdog BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: IN Posts: 8,308	I almost always will use a snap for crankbaits. Like the others have said, it's not necassary, but it's just so convenient for changing baits without retying all the time, saving time. Plus I don't like tying to split rings simply because I find the knot slips in between the wire rings of the split ring on occation. Oval split rings are supposed to eliminate this problem but I like the round rings better. The oval rings seem to disrupt the action of the bait more than the round rings do. At least thats been my experience. I tried the oval rings and went back to round. As for the snap size, I also use only the duo snaps. Size 1 snaps are good for most uses but I prefer to use size 2 snaps on the larger cranks. I will also use a size 2 whenever I am fishing in waters that also hold large pike for fear a 25 pound pike could seperate the bait from the snap provided the line don't break first.

12-13-09, 07:55 PM	#10
northernfisher BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Waterloo,Ontario Posts: 4	On crankbaits i would recommend using a loop knot to tie on your bait.

12-14-09, 11:53 AM	#14
zooker BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: denton nc Posts: 13,441	no sippi no mo red heads round here. except me and mines white...yes i have been known to forget things while a latina was present. alot of things like my name... zooker __________________ the godfather.. aml in remission since 7-20-09

12-14-09, 03:19 PM	#15
nofearengineer BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southwest IN Posts: 5,630	Red-heads are like heroin... You know they're no good for ya, but man if you don't spend your life chasin' the dragon anway. __________________ Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after.

12-14-09, 06:45 PM	#16
muddy BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 350	I almost always use a duop lock snap, same as Marty size 1/20#, It does not seem to effect anything and since I broke both my thumbs several years ago in a car accidnet, any knot I can avoid makes my day easier Islandbass brought up an excellent point and you can expolit the use of different SNAPS (NOT SNAP SWIVELS< THEY RUIN THE ACTION OF MANY LURES) to get different actions and wobbles out of a single bait, Oval snaps, wide snaps and thin snaps can have profound effects on lure actions and sometimes it is the difference Having said this, a guy I fish with all the time , took out an old picture of a fish I hooked on Lake Tarpon in Florida, the fish is average in size , jumping out of the water with a shallow shad rap in its mouth and an old style BRASS SNAP SWIVEL, and I was throwing it. Last edited by muddy; 12-14-09 at 07:59 PM.

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