My first hard swimbait

DJ_Callahan_27 · 02-09-10, 09:16 PM

I just bought my hard swimbait the other day and I have a few question to say the lest. The one I bought was a 4" Reaction Strike Revolution Shad. It's a four jointed hard bait with a slow sink rate. My first question is about the sink rate, what sink rate do you perferr, and for what conditions? Is the fast sink rate better than the slow or is a floating version the best? The same company makes all three.
Has anyone tried the Reaction Strike Revolution Shad before? If so what do you think about this bait?

Thanks in advance for the help guys..

DJ

Bassboss · 02-09-10, 09:26 PM

Personally, I think I would like a faster sinking swimbait. Mainly because I prefer to fish faster. But I think if I had the patience, (and a bigger swimbait) I would like the slow sinkers. But with the smaller ones, I think you'll be better of with a fast sinker if you like to fish faster like I do, if not, a slow sink is fine.

DJ_Callahan_27 · 02-09-10, 09:36 PM

Yeah I was going to buy one of the fast sink rate too but the slow was all that he had at the time. I figured I would try it out before I buy another one. I haven't heard of this brand so I think I will try it out before I buy another one but it looks great and as far as my first impression of the bait(without seeing it in the water) I like it.

BassinNC · 02-09-10, 09:54 PM

Looks sweet. I like the fast sink, but that's just me.

cassidyta · 02-09-10, 10:27 PM

I throw a lot of swimbaits and I use slow sink more than any other. You can keep them higher in the column than the fast sink.
I have a few floaters and while they are a lot of fun, they are the 3rd of 3 when it comes to uses.

DJ_Callahan_27 · 02-09-10, 10:46 PM

Cassidyta, since you like to use the slow sink alot, can you fish them in the mid depth range aswell or are they just primarily for the upper water column?

Showda · 02-09-10, 11:28 PM

I just got one of the Spro BBZ 4" shad swimbaits. Its fall rate is about one foot every 4 seconds. I got the slow sinking one with the intention of fishing it over shallow grass etc. I will try it shallow and if I like it I will get a fast sinking one to probe deep points etc. when the bass have retreated to deeper water.

cassidyta · 02-10-10, 02:47 AM

To me, they are like a fluke. You can fish them in any water column. It depends on your patience on waiting on them to reach that depth. I know that sounds like a smart @$$ answer, but it is true. no different than a fly rigged senko or ika. it will eventually get to the bottom. Your retrieve will determine if it stays in that column or not.

Justin2729 · 02-10-10, 02:54 AM

Got the same one you just bought, I burn mine and give it a twitch it makes it come up and flip on top. It's action is just like a shad being chased up, Ive caught A LOT of fish doing this. Works really well wen they don't wanna come up and take a topwater.

lilmule · 02-10-10, 10:23 AM

The slow sink will go down ,one just has to wait the exception being where current is present while it goes down eventually is behind the boat,in such places its better to have a fast sinker for deeper water.Myself i use mostly the slow sinker and its the top five feet of water im trying to run in.About what your jerkbait depth would be and tossed in many of the same places,sometimes even using the same retrieve.While its looks realistic swimming more so than any other bait built they also work in a jerk jerk pause retrieve.
The two jointed strike king shad comes to mind with that retrieve ,my h20 looks like a real american shad swimming,but pauses or minor jerks next to structure will get them nailed.

cassidyta · 02-10-10, 12:00 PM

One thing to note on almost all hard bodied swim baits.

If you allow your line to get slack and then quickly twitch it to the opposite side, the bait will turn to face the possible following fish. This has triggered many strikes for me.

Bubba_Bruiser · 02-10-10, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cassidyta

One thing to note on almost all hard bodied swim baits.

If you allow your line to get slack and then quickly twitch it to the opposite side, the bait will turn to face the possible following fish. This has triggered many strikes for me.

As to say, holy crap, are you following me. I just got a little laugh from that image in my head. I have thought about picking up 1 or 2 swimbaits, and you guys aren't making it any easier for me. Thanks for the tips.

bassinbob · 02-10-10, 05:04 PM

Cassidyta when you jig a swim bait is it better to use a slow ROF so it might entice a hit as it slowly settles back to the bottom? Or do you want it to hit the bottom a little faster after the jigging motion?

cassidyta · 02-10-10, 05:15 PM

Bob,
First it is important to point out that I seldom jig with a hard bodied bait. All of my hard bodied baits have dual trebles which make it a failry bad idea to dag across the bottom.

Since I use soft bodied for jigging, I will almost always go with a faster rate of fall. This can be accomplished by adding more weight to the bait itself or even fishing it on a large jig head if needed.
When I jig a swim bait, I want it to kick up dirt like a bait fish looking for food.

BigBassin144 · 02-10-10, 05:29 PM

I've heard the Hudds are great for crawling across the bottom or jigging after the bottom hook in removed. I've seen them with a stinger added across the back for this.

BB

cassidyta · 02-10-10, 05:36 PM

I use the hudds as one of the type that I will jig. Though, I don't add the stinger.

BeaverIslander · 02-10-10, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cassidyta

One thing to note on almost all hard bodied swim baits.

If you allow your line to get slack and then quickly twitch it to the opposite side, the bait will turn to face the possible following fish. This has triggered many strikes for me.

The larger size(#11?) X Raps do this too. Great technique, and fun to visualize, too.

DJ_Callahan_27 · 02-10-10, 10:00 PM

Thanks guys great info.
DJ

MeanMouth · 02-10-10, 11:21 PM

Lots of useful information in this post, thanks to all who contributed.

02-09-10, 09:26 PM	#2
Bassboss BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Shawano, WI Posts: 7,761	Personally, I think I would like a faster sinking swimbait. Mainly because I prefer to fish faster. But I think if I had the patience, (and a bigger swimbait) I would like the slow sinkers. But with the smaller ones, I think you'll be better of with a fast sinker if you like to fish faster like I do, if not, a slow sink is fine. __________________ If you can't fix it with heavy squats or fish oil, you're probably going to die.

02-09-10, 09:54 PM	#4
BassinNC BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: albemarle, NC Posts: 788	Looks sweet. I like the fast sink, but that's just me. __________________ 138 bass in 2K10. Biggest 4LBS 14oz.

02-09-10, 10:27 PM	#5
cassidyta BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,928	I throw a lot of swimbaits and I use slow sink more than any other. You can keep them higher in the column than the fast sink. I have a few floaters and while they are a lot of fun, they are the 3rd of 3 when it comes to uses. __________________ If you have ever wondered if you should retie, the answer is yes.

02-10-10, 02:47 AM	#8
cassidyta BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,928	To me, they are like a fluke. You can fish them in any water column. It depends on your patience on waiting on them to reach that depth. I know that sounds like a smart @$$ answer, but it is true. no different than a fly rigged senko or ika. it will eventually get to the bottom. Your retrieve will determine if it stays in that column or not. __________________ If you have ever wondered if you should retie, the answer is yes.

02-10-10, 05:04 PM	#13
bassinbob BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Pitts. Pa. Posts: 3,801	Cassidyta when you jig a swim bait is it better to use a slow ROF so it might entice a hit as it slowly settles back to the bottom? Or do you want it to hit the bottom a little faster after the jigging motion? __________________ you can have my fishin rod when ya take it from my cold dead hands

02-09-10, 09:16 PM	#1
DJ_Callahan_27 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Southeastern/Ky Posts: 155	My first hard swimbait I just bought my hard swimbait the other day and I have a few question to say the lest. The one I bought was a 4" Reaction Strike Revolution Shad. It's a four jointed hard bait with a slow sink rate. My first question is about the sink rate, what sink rate do you perferr, and for what conditions? Is the fast sink rate better than the slow or is a floating version the best? The same company makes all three. Has anyone tried the Reaction Strike Revolution Shad before? If so what do you think about this bait? Thanks in advance for the help guys.. DJ

02-09-10, 09:36 PM	#3
DJ_Callahan_27 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Southeastern/Ky Posts: 155	Yeah I was going to buy one of the fast sink rate too but the slow was all that he had at the time. I figured I would try it out before I buy another one. I haven't heard of this brand so I think I will try it out before I buy another one but it looks great and as far as my first impression of the bait(without seeing it in the water) I like it.

02-09-10, 10:46 PM	#6
DJ_Callahan_27 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Southeastern/Ky Posts: 155	Cassidyta, since you like to use the slow sink alot, can you fish them in the mid depth range aswell or are they just primarily for the upper water column?

02-09-10, 11:28 PM	#7
Showda BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Harrisonburg, VA Posts: 47	I just got one of the Spro BBZ 4" shad swimbaits. Its fall rate is about one foot every 4 seconds. I got the slow sinking one with the intention of fishing it over shallow grass etc. I will try it shallow and if I like it I will get a fast sinking one to probe deep points etc. when the bass have retreated to deeper water.

02-10-10, 02:54 AM	#9
Justin2729 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Annville, Kentucky Posts: 342	Got the same one you just bought, I burn mine and give it a twitch it makes it come up and flip on top. It's action is just like a shad being chased up, Ive caught A LOT of fish doing this. Works really well wen they don't wanna come up and take a topwater.

02-10-10, 10:23 AM	#10
lilmule BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Buchanan,Tn Posts: 2,685	The slow sink will go down ,one just has to wait the exception being where current is present while it goes down eventually is behind the boat,in such places its better to have a fast sinker for deeper water.Myself i use mostly the slow sinker and its the top five feet of water im trying to run in.About what your jerkbait depth would be and tossed in many of the same places,sometimes even using the same retrieve.While its looks realistic swimming more so than any other bait built they also work in a jerk jerk pause retrieve. The two jointed strike king shad comes to mind with that retrieve ,my h20 looks like a real american shad swimming,but pauses or minor jerks next to structure will get them nailed.

02-10-10, 12:00 PM	#11
cassidyta BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,928	One thing to note on almost all hard bodied swim baits. If you allow your line to get slack and then quickly twitch it to the opposite side, the bait will turn to face the possible following fish. This has triggered many strikes for me. __________________ If you have ever wondered if you should retie, the answer is yes.

02-10-10, 05:15 PM	#14
cassidyta BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,928	Bob, First it is important to point out that I seldom jig with a hard bodied bait. All of my hard bodied baits have dual trebles which make it a failry bad idea to dag across the bottom. Since I use soft bodied for jigging, I will almost always go with a faster rate of fall. This can be accomplished by adding more weight to the bait itself or even fishing it on a large jig head if needed. When I jig a swim bait, I want it to kick up dirt like a bait fish looking for food. __________________ If you have ever wondered if you should retie, the answer is yes.

02-10-10, 05:29 PM	#15
BigBassin144 BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 9,463	I've heard the Hudds are great for crawling across the bottom or jigging after the bottom hook in removed. I've seen them with a stinger added across the back for this. BB __________________ As of June 14, 2014 the members of the BF.com forum have moved to basschat.yuku.com!

02-10-10, 05:36 PM	#16
cassidyta BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,928	I use the hudds as one of the type that I will jig. Though, I don't add the stinger. __________________ If you have ever wondered if you should retie, the answer is yes.

02-10-10, 10:00 PM	#18
DJ_Callahan_27 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Southeastern/Ky Posts: 155	Thanks guys great info. DJ

02-10-10, 11:21 PM	#19
MeanMouth BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 22	Lots of useful information in this post, thanks to all who contributed.

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