Registration and Title

BoyoBoyle · 09-28-09, 02:05 PM

Ok, I want to buy a small jon boat and fix it up and put a trolley motor on the back. I already have a couple in mind that I might buy. All of them are old used ones off craigs list and for sale for anywhere between 100-300 dollars.

Im wondering if I go buy one of these and put a trolley motor on the back, what would I have to do to make it legal? I live in pennsylvania. What if I dont know the make or model of the boat? Im really into fixing up this boat, but I'm a little worried about it causing me some troubles legal-wise.

Help me out guys, I'd appreciate it

MississippiBoy · 09-28-09, 02:14 PM

A quick Google search gave me this:
http://www.fish.state.pa.us/boatcrs/...ook/legal1.htm
http://www.fish.state.pa.us/boatcrs/...ook/legal3.htm

Looks like you have to title it, since it will have an outboard motor (the trolling motor counts, I suppose), and register it, too.

Abbeysdad · 09-28-09, 02:24 PM

I believe PA is like NYS and you have to register any vessel with a motor...even if it's a trolling motor. For a boat like you are referring I don't think a title is required, but you should have the bill of sale on hand. As far as Make/model - Aluminum Jonboat may be sufficient.

MississippiBoy · 09-28-09, 02:28 PM

Whoops, just read a little further. If the boat is less than 14 feet, or older than 1997, you don't have to title it.

BoyoBoyle · 09-28-09, 02:44 PM

What exactly does a bill of sale look like? and what does it contain?

MississippiBoy · 09-28-09, 02:51 PM

http://www.carlotmanager.com/FORMS/G...BILLOFSALE.gif

Something like that

MallenManson · 09-29-09, 12:18 PM

Have the boats you're looking at been registered previously? If so that would make it a whole lot easier.
I would assume the seller would know the make and model, although that's not a sure thing.
If you're buying used, you will probably have to rely on a written receipt.
It really shouldn't be too difficult for you to get it legal.
This might not really apply to you, since I'm in Michigan but I had this boat for 12 years or so but never put it in the water. Went to register it this last spring with no receipt.
All I knew was where I'd bought it, how much I'd paid, make, model and VIN#.
The secretary of state had me fill out some paperwork with all that info and they faxed it down to Lansing.
They did a title search and junk. It came back clean so I went down and registered it later that day

TnTom · 10-05-09, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MallenManson

Stay on topic or not, I still wanna know who he was talkin to

I was talkin to Boyoboyle. Check with your DNR. usually when you hang a trolling motor they want the numbers on it. Should be a plate on the boat somewhere that might provide a hull number. hope that helps.

09-28-09, 02:05 PM	#1
BoyoBoyle BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 92	Registration and Title Ok, I want to buy a small jon boat and fix it up and put a trolley motor on the back. I already have a couple in mind that I might buy. All of them are old used ones off craigs list and for sale for anywhere between 100-300 dollars. Im wondering if I go buy one of these and put a trolley motor on the back, what would I have to do to make it legal? I live in pennsylvania. What if I dont know the make or model of the boat? Im really into fixing up this boat, but I'm a little worried about it causing me some troubles legal-wise. Help me out guys, I'd appreciate it

09-28-09, 02:14 PM	#2
MississippiBoy BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ridgeland MS Posts: 3,923	A quick Google search gave me this: http://www.fish.state.pa.us/boatcrs/...ook/legal1.htm http://www.fish.state.pa.us/boatcrs/...ook/legal3.htm Looks like you have to title it, since it will have an outboard motor (the trolling motor counts, I suppose), and register it, too. __________________ I smell smoke, and I hear sirens. Do you think that's a problem?

09-28-09, 02:24 PM	#3
Abbeysdad BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Central NY - Finger Lakes Posts: 1,307	I believe PA is like NYS and you have to register any vessel with a motor...even if it's a trolling motor. For a boat like you are referring I don't think a title is required, but you should have the bill of sale on hand. As far as Make/model - Aluminum Jonboat may be sufficient. __________________ Fish now, work later

09-28-09, 02:28 PM	#4
MississippiBoy BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ridgeland MS Posts: 3,923	Whoops, just read a little further. If the boat is less than 14 feet, or older than 1997, you don't have to title it. __________________ I smell smoke, and I hear sirens. Do you think that's a problem?

09-28-09, 02:51 PM	#6
MississippiBoy BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ridgeland MS Posts: 3,923	http://www.carlotmanager.com/FORMS/G...BILLOFSALE.gif Something like that __________________ I smell smoke, and I hear sirens. Do you think that's a problem?

09-28-09, 02:44 PM	#5
BoyoBoyle BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 92	What exactly does a bill of sale look like? and what does it contain?

09-29-09, 12:18 PM	#7
MallenManson BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Beulah, Michigan Posts: 6,431	Have the boats you're looking at been registered previously? If so that would make it a whole lot easier. I would assume the seller would know the make and model, although that's not a sure thing. If you're buying used, you will probably have to rely on a written receipt. It really shouldn't be too difficult for you to get it legal. This might not really apply to you, since I'm in Michigan but I had this boat for 12 years or so but never put it in the water. Went to register it this last spring with no receipt. All I knew was where I'd bought it, how much I'd paid, make, model and VIN#. The secretary of state had me fill out some paperwork with all that info and they faxed it down to Lansing. They did a title search and junk. It came back clean so I went down and registered it later that day __________________ Bass fear me. Women pepperspray me.....

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