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Old 12-21-10, 11:37 PM   #26
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I don't use flouro a lot having gone through a bunch of dollars experimenting with different ones. Seaguar InvisX was the best I found though and I usually have one reel spooled with it. I have found though that using a flouro leader with braid can be useful especially in very clear water situations or when fishing in an area where abrasion resistance is a great concern (sharp rocks, zebra mussels etc).
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Old 12-22-10, 08:31 AM   #27
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I don't use flouro a lot having gone through a bunch of dollars experimenting with different ones. Seaguar InvisX was the best I found though and I usually have one reel spooled with it. I have found though that using a flouro leader with braid can be useful especially in very clear water situations or when fishing in an area where abrasion resistance is a great concern (sharp rocks, zebra mussels etc).
Actually a harder FC line will be much more abrasion resistant than braid and be able to stand up much better to shark rocks and zebra muscles.

Stren's 100% FC has been one of the most abrasion resistant FCs I've tried, although you pay for it in the fact that it's pretty stiff and has a lot of memory.

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Old 12-25-10, 11:08 PM   #28
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with the lines mentioned above a person cant go wrong......IMO confidence is the most important thing. If a person is confident in thier set up rod, reel, lure and line they will catch more fish than throwing something they dont have the same trust in. I use the Seagars and P-line for different situations, its what i believe in. Tight lines and heavy nets to all........unless you are fishing against me lol....
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Old 01-02-11, 02:05 AM   #29
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One quick point about the TT fluoro test.
It is several years old and many of the line mentioned in this post have been developed since those results were printed.

Having said that, I have to agree with those who think Fluoro is over rated. How come Berkley never mentioned that if I used it with my UL Crappie outfit it would sink and take the mini bobber with it???...GRIN.

We are all victims of lies and exaggerations in advertising. Remember when the big line companies didn't make braid?
Why that stuff will cut the guides right off your rod!!!
Isn't it strange how we never hear that now that all the big-guys have braid in their line up.

Then you have the must have fads...ten bearing reels, 7X1 gear ratio's, Split grips and the big one...Species Specific Rods.

It's all just fluff and hoopla.

Kids were catching bass and trout on garden worms with butcher's string for line, tied to a willow switch or a tomato stake, 75 years ago.
I hope somewhere out there they are still doing it today.

The rest of us have been seduced, by Madison Avenue, into believing we need ten or twenty different shapes of plastic creatures on $500.00 worth of space-age material to do the same thing.

Okay, maybe you need all that stuff because the bass on your waters have a higher grade point average than most high school seniors, but I doubt it...HAHAHA
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Old 01-02-11, 11:42 AM   #30
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Having said that, I have to agree with those who think Fluoro is over rated. How come Berkley never mentioned that if I used it with my UL Crappie outfit it would sink and take the mini bobber with it???...GRIN.
I'm sure the researchers at Berkley had this exact conversation, "This line is great, it sinks!"

"But what if Garry uses it on his UL Crappie outfit? It will sink his mini bobber!"

"Well I didn't think of that. Well I guess we need to scrap this line, huh?"

"Or we could test it with every bobber on the market and list which ones it sinks right on the package."

"Great idea, let's do that!"

Of course they didn't, that would be ridiculous. And you'd think that you'd have enough common sense to realize if the line sinks, you may need to use a bigger bobber.


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We are all victims of lies and exaggerations in advertising. Remember when the big line companies didn't make braid?
Why that stuff will cut the guides right off your rod!!!
Isn't it strange how we never hear that now that all the big-guys have braid in their line up.

Then you have the must have fads...ten bearing reels, 7X1 gear ratio's, Split grips and the big one...Species Specific Rods.

It's all just fluff and hoopla.
It seems you have an unjustified problem with new things. Perhaps you're stuck in the past to give these a chance, or maybe just too close minded to consider them as viable option.

Would you feel the same way if split grips had been the norm for years and then people started making full grips?

What about gear ratios? what if 7:1 was the norm for year and now they started making an advertising a 6:1 gear ratio?

It seems to be like you don't have specific issues with any of these "fads" you mentioned, but more so an issue with advancements in technology and design.

I've come to realize, from experience, that trying to have a logical discussion with you is pointless because you're too closed minded to consider anyone's opinions but your own, but I felt I needed to post this anyways for others who are more open minded to new ideas.

So please, Garry, stop ruining perfectly good threads.

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Old 01-13-11, 03:19 AM   #31
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P-line floro is great stuff for jigs, t-rig worms shaky heads & drop shots. I use mono [ bps ] for cranking & topwater. No use for braid where im at. I have recently started using Sunline super mono. Its clear & has a smaller diameter than regular mono, it looks like floro, but handles like mono [ is limp & has stretch ]. I love it so far, as it has caught me a bunch of nice smallies this winter, so far. And to Garry: if you dont think florocarbon works as advertised, id be more than happy to give you a demo.
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Old 01-13-11, 06:23 PM   #32
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P-line floro is great stuff for jigs, t-rig worms shaky heads & drop shots. I use mono [ bps ] for cranking & topwater. No use for braid where im at. I have recently started using Sunline super mono. Its clear & has a smaller diameter than regular mono, it looks like floro, but handles like mono [ is limp & has stretch ]. I love it so far, as it has caught me a bunch of nice smallies this winter, so far. And to Garry: if you dont think florocarbon works as advertised, id be more than happy to give you a demo.

I am curious why you prefer mono for cranking over fluorocarbon. Lots of people are just the opposite, they prefer the fluoro because of its higher density, which causes it to sink, thus helping get your CB a little deeper. I am interested in your opinion.
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Old 01-13-11, 07:16 PM   #33
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Obviously, I'm not brwnbass, but I don't use FC for cranking because when I fish shallow cranks, I don't want them, to dive deeper. I'll use 12-15lb mono for that. Now that I've got a rod specifically for deep cranks, I may try some Seaguar InvisX in 10lb.

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Old 01-18-11, 02:44 PM   #34
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I use the Vicious fluorcarbon in 15lb test for flipping and pitching jigs and T-rigs in medium to light cover and haven't had a problem. This line is super strong. It is slightly stiffer than most fluorocarbons, but it is nothing KVD L&L can't handle. I have also used it for dragging jigs and T-rigs and it will cast and handle great.
I actually had my best experience with 15lb Vicious Fluorocarbon. I tried that Segar red label at first and it drove me crazy. But I think that was because I had it on a cheap reel that fights with mono too. So I might actually spool up some more vicious on my next reel or give the Trilene 100% a try.
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