pregnant in nov?

kennethdaysale · 12-22-11, 07:34 PM

Contrary to my normal MO I will sometimes clean a few fish for supper. Caught this little fattie 11/3/11 and found this.(water temp at the time was 61) LMB have a huge instinct for survival. When I was a kid I often wondered how I was seeing 3"-4" bass in feb-mar.

Bassboss · 12-22-11, 08:09 PM

Pretty sure they keep there eggs all year, and they don't start maturing till later in the spawn. Could be wrong though, that's just what I've heard.

I know for a fact though that SMB pick a mate before the spawn, and if you kill that
"mate" before the spawn, the eggs wont be fertilized. Learned that from a study that In-Fisherman did in the Canadian Sheild lakes. Not sure if largemouth are the same way though.

kennethdaysale · 12-22-11, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bassboss

Pretty sure they keep there eggs all year, and they don't start maturing till later in the spawn. Could be wrong though, that's just what I've heard.

I know for a fact though that SMB pick a mate before the spawn, and if you kill that
"mate" before the spawn, the eggs wont be fertilized. Learned that from a study that In-Fisherman did in the Canadian Sheild lakes. Not sure if largemouth are the same way though.

I guess anythings possible but I have cleaned enough bass over the years to make me think it's unlikely? As far as female LMB I know for a fact that they are sleep-around sluts.........period

WTL · 12-22-11, 09:01 PM

I once heard that bass can spawn in fall. I reported what I heard online, and someone kinda took me to task for it - they seemed pretty sure, and I dont know one way or another.

There is no rule saying that this certain bass didn't have some sorta reproductive disorder.

Bassboss · 12-22-11, 09:09 PM

You could try emailing you local DNR, with the pic and everything. They could probably provide better info then any of us.

bluebasser86 · 12-22-11, 09:17 PM

Bassboss has it right. Largemouth bass eggs form and grow throughout the summer following spawn and then mature and are laid when the water reaches the appropriate tempature the following spring. I've seen the same thing in crappie during the fall with them having egg sacs.

LittleBigBass · 12-22-11, 10:20 PM

I too have recently filleted some fish, mostly crappie, and have found eggs. It is unusual, i dont see them until the spring most of the time

kennethdaysale · 12-22-11, 10:52 PM

I am not a fisheries biologist by any means and any evidence that I have that bass will in fact pull off a successful fall spawn is purely circumstantial. Circumstance #1 I've gutted enough post spawn fish sizable enough to be undeniably female with no sign of roe to question the theory that they carry around immature roe all the time.
Circumstance #2 And in my opinion as close to "proof" as it gets. Every year I see and sometimes catch numerous LMB that are so small (3"-4"-5"...) during pre-spawn-spawn-post spawn that there is absolutely no way possible and simply no other rational explanation than that those fish are 3-4-5 months old. (I live in the south and fish some very fertile BOW's...growth rates down here can sometimes push 1lb a year). If a fall spawn doesn't happen then those little 4" bass I'm seeing are unexplainable. They are almost a year old but managed to survive but not grow?

kennethdaysale · 12-22-11, 10:59 PM

This little feller caught in April says it all for me. If this fish is a year old I will kiss Vegasspiders bare a$$ in front of the local Burger King at high noon on any day he chooses and give a week to draw a crowd.

lilmule · 12-23-11, 09:36 AM

Actually not far off,yet in many southern locales multiple spawning does occur,fla and texas having as many as three,so not unusual to me for sc to have two if the season is right for it.
Even much farther north a false spawn occurs with development of immature eggs at times.
Ive even had gar lose eggs on the boat deck long after all others have spawned and left in sept.one born late wouldnt grow as fast and would be way to short for a year old bass.And have observed what appeared to be shad doing a second spawn at this lat.

Bubba_Bruiser · 12-24-11, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kennethdaysale

This little feller caught in April says it all for me. If this fish is a year old I will kiss Vegasspiders bare a$$ in front of the local Burger King at high noon on any day he chooses and give a week to draw a crowd.

If the whoppers are on the house, consider me penciled in hahahahaha. We clean a lot of fish and seen a couple of cases where eggs are present at weird times in the year. That or maybe we are just catching mostly males?

bamabassman · 12-24-11, 05:19 PM

kenneth....DAT BE A WALL HANGER FOR ME MAN. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Dogmatic · 12-27-11, 09:42 AM

Cook that roe sack up?!

nofearengineer · 12-27-11, 01:14 PM

We forget that while what we see in nature seems like it's always been that way, nature is always changing things up, looking for a better way to do it.

I have no doubt whatsoever that some fish try to spawn at different times of the year. Evolution is not an intelligent phenomenon. It's a genetic crapshoot, and when something finds a new unexploited niche, a new species or behavior pops up.

I am with KDS on the age of his trophy bass there. There is no way that bass is a year old and no way it grew to 4 inches in 4 weeks either.

kennethdaysale · 12-27-11, 03:35 PM

Dwarfism would surely be a death sentence in any genetic gamble for LMB

............I'm convinced the little bass that hit that #5 Rapala wasn't attempting to eat.....more likely some kind of perverted sexual overture.

kennethdaysale · 12-27-11, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogmatic

Cook that roe sack up?!

Not this time...dropped um in a pot of cheese grits instead....yum!

12-22-11, 09:01 PM	#4
WTL BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntsville, Al Posts: 7,466	I once heard that bass can spawn in fall. I reported what I heard online, and someone kinda took me to task for it - they seemed pretty sure, and I dont know one way or another. There is no rule saying that this certain bass didn't have some sorta reproductive disorder. __________________ Selling live waterdogs for less since 2005.

12-22-11, 10:52 PM	#8
kennethdaysale BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: rock hill, sc Posts: 2,315	I am not a fisheries biologist by any means and any evidence that I have that bass will in fact pull off a successful fall spawn is purely circumstantial. Circumstance #1 I've gutted enough post spawn fish sizable enough to be undeniably female with no sign of roe to question the theory that they carry around immature roe all the time. Circumstance #2 And in my opinion as close to "proof" as it gets. Every year I see and sometimes catch numerous LMB that are so small (3"-4"-5"...) during pre-spawn-spawn-post spawn that there is absolutely no way possible and simply no other rational explanation than that those fish are 3-4-5 months old. (I live in the south and fish some very fertile BOW's...growth rates down here can sometimes push 1lb a year). If a fall spawn doesn't happen then those little 4" bass I'm seeing are unexplainable. They are almost a year old but managed to survive but not grow? __________________ Sometimes you gotta risk it to get the biscuit.

12-22-11, 10:59 PM	#9
kennethdaysale BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: rock hill, sc Posts: 2,315	This little feller caught in April says it all for me. If this fish is a year old I will kiss Vegasspiders bare a$$ in front of the local Burger King at high noon on any day he chooses and give a week to draw a crowd. __________________ Sometimes you gotta risk it to get the biscuit.

12-24-11, 05:19 PM	#12
bamabassman BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: cedar bluff, alabama Posts: 15,292	kenneth....DAT BE A WALL HANGER FOR ME MAN. HAHAHAHAHA!!!! __________________ so many lures, so little time.

12-27-11, 01:14 PM	#14
nofearengineer BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southwest IN Posts: 5,630	We forget that while what we see in nature seems like it's always been that way, nature is always changing things up, looking for a better way to do it. I have no doubt whatsoever that some fish try to spawn at different times of the year. Evolution is not an intelligent phenomenon. It's a genetic crapshoot, and when something finds a new unexploited niche, a new species or behavior pops up. I am with KDS on the age of his trophy bass there. There is no way that bass is a year old and no way it grew to 4 inches in 4 weeks either. __________________ Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after.

12-22-11, 07:34 PM	#1
kennethdaysale BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: rock hill, sc Posts: 2,315	pregnant in nov? Contrary to my normal MO I will sometimes clean a few fish for supper. Caught this little fattie 11/3/11 and found this.(water temp at the time was 61) LMB have a huge instinct for survival. When I was a kid I often wondered how I was seeing 3"-4" bass in feb-mar. __________________ Sometimes you gotta risk it to get the biscuit.

12-22-11, 08:09 PM	#2
Bassboss BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Shawano, WI Posts: 7,761	Pretty sure they keep there eggs all year, and they don't start maturing till later in the spawn. Could be wrong though, that's just what I've heard. I know for a fact though that SMB pick a mate before the spawn, and if you kill that "mate" before the spawn, the eggs wont be fertilized. Learned that from a study that In-Fisherman did in the Canadian Sheild lakes. Not sure if largemouth are the same way though. __________________ If you can't fix it with heavy squats or fish oil, you're probably going to die.

12-22-11, 09:09 PM	#5
Bassboss BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Shawano, WI Posts: 7,761	You could try emailing you local DNR, with the pic and everything. They could probably provide better info then any of us. __________________ If you can't fix it with heavy squats or fish oil, you're probably going to die.

12-22-11, 09:17 PM	#6
bluebasser86 BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Gardner, KS Posts: 605	Bassboss has it right. Largemouth bass eggs form and grow throughout the summer following spawn and then mature and are laid when the water reaches the appropriate tempature the following spring. I've seen the same thing in crappie during the fall with them having egg sacs.

12-22-11, 10:20 PM	#7
LittleBigBass BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 70	I too have recently filleted some fish, mostly crappie, and have found eggs. It is unusual, i dont see them until the spring most of the time

12-23-11, 09:36 AM	#10
lilmule BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Buchanan,Tn Posts: 2,685	Actually not far off,yet in many southern locales multiple spawning does occur,fla and texas having as many as three,so not unusual to me for sc to have two if the season is right for it. Even much farther north a false spawn occurs with development of immature eggs at times. Ive even had gar lose eggs on the boat deck long after all others have spawned and left in sept.one born late wouldnt grow as fast and would be way to short for a year old bass.And have observed what appeared to be shad doing a second spawn at this lat.

12-27-11, 09:42 AM	#13
Dogmatic BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 714	Cook that roe sack up?!

12-27-11, 03:35 PM	#15
kennethdaysale BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: rock hill, sc Posts: 2,315	Dwarfism would surely be a death sentence in any genetic gamble for LMB............I'm convinced the little bass that hit that #5 Rapala wasn't attempting to eat.....more likely some kind of perverted sexual overture. __________________ Sometimes you gotta risk it to get the biscuit.

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