Reels And Rods Help

peblair · 12-01-06, 06:10 PM

I need help with what gear ratio in need for different fishing baits, please help!

SPINNERBAIT
BUZZBAIT
SPOOK
HARD JERKBAIT
FROG

These are my baits that i need help with what size rod and what gear ratio is best for each one.

5.3:1 or 6.2:1
medium or heavy or medium heavy

PLEASE HELP!

Thanks and i am new so if i am doing it worng please help with that as well.

TAKE A KID FISHING!

bubba bass bigfoot · 12-01-06, 06:16 PM

i would go with the 6:2:1 for the spinner and buzz, rod what ever you like better.

TackleTester · 12-01-06, 07:16 PM

Not Heavy......Probably MdHvy...Need a pretty stout rod for frog fishing....doesn't hurt for spinnerbaits either....cranks are another story but you can't make everything work so my .02 go with mdhvy rod and 6.2 reel

FlyRod · 12-01-06, 07:37 PM

Spinnerbait: One 6.2:1 for normal use in shallower applications. A 5:1 or 4.7:1 for deep "slowrolling" the spinnerbait...It WILL make a difference and help a great deal.

Buzzbait (including "buzzing" toads): If the budget allows for a "purpose dedicated" reel, a 7:1, but the more versatile 6.2 (some are 6.3, and that's OK) will be quite adequate.

Crankbait: The 5:1 is handy and less tiring for the larger ones, otherwise the 6.2 wiill be fine.

Topwater(to include Spooks): The 6.2(3) is fine. The 5:1 will serve well enough in a pinch too.

Lipless Cranks and Hard Jerkbaits: 6.2 is fine, but learn to slow down as needed.

Worms, jigs, creature baits: 6.2 generally the best choice.

Please try to become VERY familiar with the actual performance of each reel you own. Gear ratios are NOT the only indicator of actual retrieve speed, which is also a function of spool diameter, line level, etc.
Most of us remember when the ABU Ambassadeur was THE reel. Well, until the 4500, 5500, etc, came out, the red Ambys had a ratio of perhaps 3.7. Even the reels with the second number being 5 or 6, and considered "High Speed", had a ratio of "Only" 4.7:1 in most cases.
Many of us installed after-market 5:1 gears in the quest for speed. Sometimes the results were iffy, at best, 'cause some of the kits were a bit rough-cut and required some rather ingenious break-in measures. If such measures were not successful you felt as though you were grinding gravel when you cranked.

Good luck!

FlyRod

PS: Rods are a far more subjective choice. I'm certain you'll receive plenty of advice hereon.

ToPwAt'R GuY · 12-01-06, 09:04 PM

FlyRod has this one covered.

Rebbasser · 12-02-06, 12:14 AM

Reels-what Flyrod said.

Rods:
Spinnerbait: 6-6 MH
Buzzbait: Same
Spook: 6 or 6-6 Medium
Hard Jerkbait: 6-6 Medium
Frog: 6 or 6-6 Heavy, preferably with braided line.

Single hook baits I like a MH action rod-enough backbone for a good hookset. Treble hook baits I use a medium action. It has some give to it so there is less chance of tearing the hooks out of a fish's mouth. For frogs I like a heavy action rod as well as braided line. The reason is frogs are usually fished in heavy cover, so you need a stiff rod to get a good hookset and braid to horse the fish out of the slop.

FlyRod · 12-02-06, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToPwAt'R GuY

FlyRod has this one covered.

Thank you, thank you. But I still won't do two shows a night.

FlyRod has left the building

zooker · 12-02-06, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebbasser

Hard Jerkbait: 6-6 Medium
Frog: 6 or 6-6 Heavy, .

jerk bait like a spook a shorter handled or pistol grip rod will work better. i have a busted 6'6' mh rod that is actually 5'8'' this work better than any rod i have found thats longer.. trust me keepin the rod out of the water is less tiring. on a style of baits that is the toughest to work..

frog 7' or 7'6'' feet heavy action -at least- x-heavy is better i have a new rod on order a heavy action 7'8'' fenwick frog stick. massive hook sets are the rule not the exception. braid is my #1 choice minium of 30 pound braid. super braid hooks are a must. use a high speed reel 6.3 or faster.. i use a lefty reel as numberus strikes come when the frog hits the water. if i was using a righty reel i would have missed about 40 bass this past summer..

zooker

pig n jig · 12-02-06, 06:25 PM

Spinnerbait-5'6"-7'0 MH with a 21-26" line retreive reel.I use A 5'6" MH rod with a pistol grip for closer target presentations, and a 7' MH rod when fishing flats, points, lateral line bank fishing.

Buzzbait-A 7'6"-8' MH-Heavy rod with a 26'-31" line retreive.I like to keep the rod tip high, so a longer rod fishes easier for me.

Crankbait- 5'6" medium-7'6" mh rod with a 19"-23" line retreive.5'6" for shallow , close cover cranking, 7'6" MH for cranking long flats, points,for large deep cranking baits.

topwater- 5'6 mh glass to 6' medium to 6' MH graphite rods.I use 3 types of rods, a 5'6 Fenwick HMG pistol grip glass rod for zip n ziggys, pop r's, prop baits,dalton special, Gaines killers. 6' medium for sammy types, zara spook jrs,lucky 13, Hub chubs rattalure, spittin images 6'MH for amazon sammy types, spooks, bigger prop baits, jitterbugs.

Hard jerkbait-6' medium spinning-6' medium casting rods.

Frog- 7'6" Heavy rod with any reel with 30-50 lb braid

1FASTLASER · 12-10-06, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zooker

jerk bait like a spook a shorter handled or pistol grip rod will work better. i have a busted 6'6' mh rod that is actually 5'8'' this work better than any rod i have found thats longer.. trust me keepin the rod out of the water is less tiring. on a style of baits that is the toughest to work..

frog 7' or 7'6'' feet heavy action -at least- x-heavy is better i have a new rod on order a heavy action 7'8'' fenwick frog stick. massive hook sets are the rule not the exception. braid is my #1 choice minium of 30 pound braid. super braid hooks are a must. use a high speed reel 6.3 or faster.. i use a lefty reel as numberus strikes come when the frog hits the water. if i was using a righty reel i would have missed about 40 bass this past summer..

zooker

And we all know that ole ZOOK uses AT LEAST 30lb Power Pro. LMAO Hey all jokes aside down here my frogs are thrown on 6 and 6'6" rods. Them thar trees and moss hanging from them trees is a HASSLE with the long rod.

skeeter944 · 12-10-06, 09:16 PM

same with when you're bank fishing laser,the trees and stuff catch the frog on the way to the target,so i throw mine on a 6'6''mh baitcaster with 25lb mono.

12-02-06, 12:14 AM	#6
Rebbasser BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 10,141	Reels-what Flyrod said. Rods: Spinnerbait: 6-6 MH Buzzbait: Same Spook: 6 or 6-6 Medium Hard Jerkbait: 6-6 Medium Frog: 6 or 6-6 Heavy, preferably with braided line. Single hook baits I like a MH action rod-enough backbone for a good hookset. Treble hook baits I use a medium action. It has some give to it so there is less chance of tearing the hooks out of a fish's mouth. For frogs I like a heavy action rod as well as braided line. The reason is frogs are usually fished in heavy cover, so you need a stiff rod to get a good hookset and braid to horse the fish out of the slop. __________________ It's happened to the best of them: John 21:3

12-01-06, 06:10 PM	#1
peblair BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1	Reels And Rods Help I need help with what gear ratio in need for different fishing baits, please help! SPINNERBAIT BUZZBAIT SPOOK HARD JERKBAIT FROG These are my baits that i need help with what size rod and what gear ratio is best for each one. 5.3:1 or 6.2:1 medium or heavy or medium heavy PLEASE HELP! Thanks and i am new so if i am doing it worng please help with that as well. TAKE A KID FISHING!

12-01-06, 06:16 PM	#2
bubba bass bigfoot BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 206	i would go with the 6:2:1 for the spinner and buzz, rod what ever you like better.

12-01-06, 07:16 PM	#3
TackleTester BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Indpls, IN Posts: 333	Not Heavy......Probably MdHvy...Need a pretty stout rod for frog fishing....doesn't hurt for spinnerbaits either....cranks are another story but you can't make everything work so my .02 go with mdhvy rod and 6.2 reel

12-01-06, 07:37 PM	#4
FlyRod BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,270	Spinnerbait: One 6.2:1 for normal use in shallower applications. A 5:1 or 4.7:1 for deep "slowrolling" the spinnerbait...It WILL make a difference and help a great deal. Buzzbait (including "buzzing" toads): If the budget allows for a "purpose dedicated" reel, a 7:1, but the more versatile 6.2 (some are 6.3, and that's OK) will be quite adequate. Crankbait: The 5:1 is handy and less tiring for the larger ones, otherwise the 6.2 wiill be fine. Topwater(to include Spooks): The 6.2(3) is fine. The 5:1 will serve well enough in a pinch too. Lipless Cranks and Hard Jerkbaits: 6.2 is fine, but learn to slow down as needed. Worms, jigs, creature baits: 6.2 generally the best choice. Please try to become VERY familiar with the actual performance of each reel you own. Gear ratios are NOT the only indicator of actual retrieve speed, which is also a function of spool diameter, line level, etc. Most of us remember when the ABU Ambassadeur was THE reel. Well, until the 4500, 5500, etc, came out, the red Ambys had a ratio of perhaps 3.7. Even the reels with the second number being 5 or 6, and considered "High Speed", had a ratio of "Only" 4.7:1 in most cases. Many of us installed after-market 5:1 gears in the quest for speed. Sometimes the results were iffy, at best, 'cause some of the kits were a bit rough-cut and required some rather ingenious break-in measures. If such measures were not successful you felt as though you were grinding gravel when you cranked. Good luck! FlyRod PS: Rods are a far more subjective choice. I'm certain you'll receive plenty of advice hereon.

12-01-06, 09:04 PM	#5
ToPwAt'R GuY BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: missouri Posts: 930	FlyRod has this one covered.

12-02-06, 06:25 PM	#9
pig n jig BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Avoca, NY Posts: 3,508	Spinnerbait-5'6"-7'0 MH with a 21-26" line retreive reel.I use A 5'6" MH rod with a pistol grip for closer target presentations, and a 7' MH rod when fishing flats, points, lateral line bank fishing. Buzzbait-A 7'6"-8' MH-Heavy rod with a 26'-31" line retreive.I like to keep the rod tip high, so a longer rod fishes easier for me. Crankbait- 5'6" medium-7'6" mh rod with a 19"-23" line retreive.5'6" for shallow , close cover cranking, 7'6" MH for cranking long flats, points,for large deep cranking baits. topwater- 5'6 mh glass to 6' medium to 6' MH graphite rods.I use 3 types of rods, a 5'6 Fenwick HMG pistol grip glass rod for zip n ziggys, pop r's, prop baits,dalton special, Gaines killers. 6' medium for sammy types, zara spook jrs,lucky 13, Hub chubs rattalure, spittin images 6'MH for amazon sammy types, spooks, bigger prop baits, jitterbugs. Hard jerkbait-6' medium spinning-6' medium casting rods. Frog- 7'6" Heavy rod with any reel with 30-50 lb braid

12-10-06, 09:16 PM	#11
skeeter944 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Somewhere in South Carolina Posts: 2,377	same with when you're bank fishing laser,the trees and stuff catch the frog on the way to the target,so i throw mine on a 6'6''mh baitcaster with 25lb mono.

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