Tweaking, special rigs, anything like that?

[Bassboss]

Hey, any got any special rigs/ways to rig anything or ways to tweak lure like a spinning bait, or anything like that that y'aller willing to share? Interested in seething what kinda stuff you come up with when it's to hot to cold.

[thekevster]

I have never heard of tweaking a spinnerbait before and I know nothing about it but this sounds like a interesting topic so I am joining in

[keithdog]

Well, bending the line tie on plugs or the wire of a spinnerbait to cause it to swim off to one side is an old trick. Some times I'll rig soft jerk baits so the nose of the bait is slightly upturned which will cause them to jump out of the water on sharp tugs of the rod. If I think of any others I'll be back.

[Jrob78]

I'm with Keith on playing with the nose of soft jerkbaits. You can make them head toward the surface or down toward the bottom. I also like to fish them on double fluke rig. I use a swivel loose on the main line with a leader and a swivel tied to the main line with a leader.

Tavery recently posted about turning a bullet weight backwards while fishing craw baits, weight point toward the bait. This causes the cupped end to dig into the bottom and kick up silt. I haven't tried it but it sounds like a great idea.

When fishing straight worms like stick baits, Finesse worms and Trick worms I will sometimes take a knife and quarter the last inch or two of the tail lengthwise so that it has "tentacles." I will occasionally do this while t-rigging, shaky heading, or fishing weightless.

Whenever I fish stickbaits (Senkos) I always rig from the head but when it gets torn up I turn it around and rig from the skinnier tail. Not only does this make it last longer it gives it more of the backwards fall. It falls back toward a fish that might be following it. I also think it casts a little farther.

The bottom line is this, there are no rules in fishing. Baits don't have to be fished any certain way. The more you experiment with certain things the more successful you will be.

[Krtismo]

Originally Posted by Jrob78

I'm with Keith on playing with the nose of soft jerkbaits. You can make them head toward the surface or down toward the bottom. I also like to fish them on double fluke rig. I use a swivel loose on the main line with a leader and a swivel tied to the main line with a leader.

Could you give some more info on how you rig a double fluke rig? I can't quite picture it and I've never seen one before.

Thanks!

[Old Hooker]

Bending the upper arm of a buzzbait will cause it to run to that side. If you do it right you can get one that you can run under stuff like docks, trees, brush... That will put a few more fish in the boat for ya.

[carolina-rig-01]

Bending the arm of a spinnerbait so the blades are further away from the hook will create more lift and let you keep the bait shallower at a slower retrieve. Bending it the other way has the opposite effect and will let you reel if faster and still keep it a little deeper.

[WatterBoy]

The article at this link gives several different modification options for several types of lures. Please note that I'm not saying I've tried any of these or heard of them working, I'm just sharing it in case anyone wants to read it.

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[Jrob78]

Originally Posted by Krtismo

Could you give some more info on how you rig a double fluke rig? I can't quite picture it and I've never seen one before.

Thanks!

I've heard the double Fluke rig called the donkey rig and the double zulu rig, or something like that. There are different ways to do it. Some people use a 3 way swivel. The idea is to have 2 weighless flukes swimming together. Normally one leader is slightly longer than the other so sometimes they are darting side by side, sometimes one is chasing the other.

I take 2 regular barrel swivels and thread the main line through one end of one of the swivels. This allows this swivel to travel freely up and down the line. I tie the other swivel to the end of the main line. The first swivel can freely slide up and down the main line from the rod tip down to the tied swivel. I then tie a 10" leader to the other end of the swivel that is tied to the main line. I tie a 14" leader to the other end of the free sliding swivel. I then tie hooks and Flukes to the 2 leaders that are attached to the free ends of the 2 swivels.. Now both swivels have leaders with Flukes tied to them.

The Fluke that is tied to the main line basically acts like a single Fluke. The Fluke on the sliding swivel is allowed to travel up and down the line, sometimes beside the other Fluke, sometimes trailing it. The length of the leaders isn't really important other than one should be longer than the other. Shorter leaders aid in casting though.

I also like to use different color Flukes on each rig. Sometimes you will find that one color gets bit more than the other. This set up casts better than I thought it would and I otherwise work the rig like I would a single Fluke. It's pretty cool when the water is clear and you can see them darting around in tandem but going in different directions.

Some people use a single three way swivel tied to the end of the main line. You simply tie your leaders to the other two ends and fish it. I feel the sliding swivel gives a more erratic action though.

Sorry for the long reply, hopefully it made sense. I've had a double hook up once using this rig, it's a very effective technique under the right circumstances and a lot of fun to fish.

Edit: I just found a picture, simple enough.

http://landinglunkers.com/wp-content...4/dsc03678.jpg

[Mac2]

Cut off the ultravibe part of the zoom line of baits and weld it to the tail of a fluke in place of the fork tail. Makes a great dying fish topwater and a throbbing dying fish underneath when pulled......best to use short pulls and pauses between.
Also can be used on lizards by replacing the tail on those. Take the lizzard (ribbontail) and weld it on a grub body for a different action and profile.

As you cut off the ultravibe tail, be sure to include a half inch of the arm it was attached to in order to let it pivot correctly.

[Tavery5]

I love to fish the donkey rig when the bass are schooling, I use the two barrell swivels when I set mine up. I will slit the tails of senkos when the fishing is a little slow, sometimes it will pick up a bite or two. I also almost always dye the last 1/4 inch of my senkos with JJ's magic in chartruese, works very well in water where the primary forage is bluegill/pumpkinseed. You can play around with weighting the hooks on jerkbaits so they sit a little different in the water while suspending, (head up, head down) kinda thing.

[walkeraviator]

I been cuttin the fuses a little shorter this year so they dont sink as far... helps with suspended fish...

[Krtismo]

Thanks Rob!

[woody]

Krtismo, to add to Jrob's post, I remember awhile back that there was a video of KVD fishing the DoubleZulu fluke rig.
After a search, I found it for you. Enjoy

http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/st...0001&langId=-1


-Mark

[islandbass]

Some soft plastics, when rigged backward can sink away from you (on slack line) than the normal way, toward you.

[Krtismo]

Originally Posted by woody

Krtismo, to add to Jrob's post, I remember awhile back that there was a video of KVD fishing the DoubleZulu fluke rig.
After a search, I found it for you. Enjoy

http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/st...0001&langId=-1


-Mark

Thanks for the link, I think I'm going to give this a try today!

[Bassboss]

Some interesting stuff so far guys!

Originally Posted by Jrob78

I've heard the double Fluke rig called the donkey rig and the double zulu rig, or something like that. There are different ways to do it. Some people use a 3 way swivel. The idea is to have 2 weighless flukes swimming together. Normally one leader is slightly longer than the other so sometimes they are darting side by side, sometimes one is chasing the other.

I take 2 regular barrel swivels and thread the main line through one end of one of the swivels. This allows this swivel to travel freely up and down the line. I tie the other swivel to the end of the main line. The first swivel can freely slide up and down the main line from the rod tip down to the tied swivel. I then tie a 10" leader to the other end of the swivel that is tied to the main line. I tie a 14" leader to the other end of the free sliding swivel. I then tie hooks and Flukes to the 2 leaders that are attached to the free ends of the 2 swivels.. Now both swivels have leaders with Flukes tied to them.

The Fluke that is tied to the main line basically acts like a single Fluke. The Fluke on the sliding swivel is allowed to travel up and down the line, sometimes beside the other Fluke, sometimes trailing it. The length of the leaders isn't really important other than one should be longer than the other. Shorter leaders aid in casting though.

I also like to use different color Flukes on each rig. Sometimes you will find that one color gets bit more than the other. This set up casts better than I thought it would and I otherwise work the rig like I would a single Fluke. It's pretty cool when the water is clear and you can see them darting around in tandem but going in different directions.

Some people use a single three way swivel tied to the end of the main line. You simply tie your leaders to the other two ends and fish it. I feel the sliding swivel gives a more erratic action though.

Sorry for the long reply, hopefully it made sense. I've had a double hook up once using this rig, it's a very effective technique under the right circumstances and a lot of fun to fish.

Edit: I just found a picture, simple enough.

http://landinglunkers.com/wp-content...4/dsc03678.jpg

Very cool, never used it but have heard of it! I had an idea with this. What if you took a baby bass magnum fluke, and a small fluke in like minnow color or something. and rigged it so that the big one chased the little one! Great for a big fish, or a small one!! Give it a try for me guys, don't think I'll be fishing a while!

[walkeraviator]

Originally Posted by Bassboss

Some interesting stuff so far guys!



Very cool, never used it but have heard of it! I had an idea with this. What if you took a baby bass magnum fluke, and a small fluke in like minnow color or something. and rigged it so that the big one chased the little one! Great for a big fish, or a small one!! Give it a try for me guys, don't think I'll be fishing a while!

This was covered once on a salt water show... they were throwing magnum flukes behind tiny flukes on a speck rig... were killing speckled trout on it... even had one double on it.

[Jrob78]

Originally Posted by Bassboss

Some interesting stuff so far guys!



Very cool, never used it but have heard of it! I had an idea with this. What if you took a baby bass magnum fluke, and a small fluke in like minnow color or something. and rigged it so that the big one chased the little one! Great for a big fish, or a small one!! Give it a try for me guys, don't think I'll be fishing a while!

I've never tried using 2 sizes of Flukes but it's a great idea!!

[ted48]

i RECENTLY CAUGHT A 7.5 LB LMB on an old spinnerbait I dug out of the bottom of my tackle box. After catching this fish i examined it closly and much to my surprise it had rattles in the head. Investigated and they of course dont make them any more. So I went to the tackle store and bought some rattles and have installed them on some spinner baits and some chatter baits. Haven't had a chance to throw them much but have caught a few on both type baits.

Sometimes it's those little extra thing that gets the bite. And the fish haven't seen a spinner bait that rattles for many years, they stopped making them in 1985.

Worth a try and not expensive.

[Tavery5]

I was watching a video today of some Pro's fishing frogs. At one point in the video this guy starts talking about how they were modifying the Mad Maxx frogs. He explained that they were removing the standard legs and replacing them with plastic worms. The one I could see, looked like they used a curly tail worm, but I was thinking that it opens up a bunch of different options, for color, length, and type of tail.

[gracefuldad]

My favorite tweak is on chatterbaits. Pull the skirts and throw them away and then use soft plastic shad type baits.

It has proven to be a reliable lure that can be fished in a multitude of ways. Deep shallow, slow fast.. any depth.. any retrieve style.. It can be adjusted to fit about any condition without changing lures.

I have not been skunked using this lure this year.

[Krtismo]

Originally Posted by gracefuldad

My favorite tweak is on chatterbaits. Pull the skirts and throw them away and then use soft plastic shad type baits.

It has proven to be a reliable lure that can be fished in a multitude of ways. Deep shallow, slow fast.. any depth.. any retrieve style.. It can be adjusted to fit about any condition without changing lures.

I have not been skunked using this lure this year.

By shad, do you mean jerkbaits? or something else?

[gracefuldad]

Originally Posted by Krtismo

By shad, do you mean jerkbaits? or something else?

I use 4" Shad Shaped Yamato worms and Zoom Super Fluke jr's on small chatter baits.

I have tried rigging larger baits on the bigger chatterbaits, but I have more success with the smaller ones..

[gonefishin3]

Best advice I've ever heard if you imagine it make it try melting worms togethr