The amount of sensitivity lost in a 2 piece rod?

Bassboss · 02-28-10, 11:00 AM

All right, so cabelas has there Gold Label rods on sale for 20 bucks, so I was planing on getting one, but than I saw that they where 2 piece, and the whole reason I'm getting another spinning rod is because my current one is about as sensitive as a rubber band. So I don't want to get a 2 piece rod to replace my current one if it's gonna loose a lot of sensitivity. So how much sensitivity do you really think is lost in a 2 piece rod over a 1 piece?

Thanks guys!

CamG · 02-28-10, 12:30 PM

I really don't think it is so much sensitivity that use lose, but the backbone of the rod.

If you ever look closely at most two piece rods (with a load put on them) there will be a much longer "straight" area where the two pieces come together, instead of a steady arch finishing out to the rod tip.

Hope that makes sense

Jrob78 · 02-28-10, 12:50 PM

I think it's really pretty common for spinning rods to be 2 piece. If you found one you like and the price is right I would go for it.

Bassboss · 02-28-10, 01:51 PM

Thanks guys, I think I'll jump on it! And G, it does make scene!

Bassboss · 02-28-10, 03:20 PM

Before I get it, 6'6", or 7'? Bot M power, Fast action.

BigBassin144 · 02-28-10, 04:44 PM

bassboss, here's a simple test.

Take you most sensitive rod and perform whatever sensitivity test you like the best. Next, put the rod in a car window about halfway up, and then roll up the window. Now you have a two piece rod. Perform the sensitivity test again.

BB

nofearengineer · 02-28-10, 05:10 PM

LMAO, Anthony. That is cruel.

But seriously...

Any break in the continuous path of material from rod tip to reel seat is going to reduce the rod's transmission of vibration. How much is lost is up to the quality of the ferrule job, though it will never be as good as a continous, single piece rod blank. However, a rod that is broken by a car door isn't very sensitive either, so if space is your biggest concern, don't give sensitivity a second thought and buy the two-piece.

As far as backbone goes, the ferrule is usually made from a stronger material than the rest of the rod blank. If you bend a 2-piece rod to failure, it will almost never break at the ferrule. Yes, it does tend to have a somewhat strange looking unbent section right in the middle, but again, that's just a compromise for people who like to be able to keep 7' rods in the trunk of their car.

JB · 02-28-10, 05:20 PM

just keep one of your fingers on your line and you'll feel a bump before a rod will pick it up. You'll be OK at that price, however as you can afford better gear stick with a one piece

AUFred · 02-28-10, 06:24 PM

I don't think you lose tons of sensitivity with a 2 piece rod.
Really depends on what you are planning on using the rod for.

Bassboss · 02-28-10, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBassin144

bassboss, here's a simple test.

Take you most sensitive rod and perform whatever sensitivity test you like the best. Next, put the rod in a car window about halfway up, and then roll up the window. Now you have a two piece rod. Perform the sensitivity test again.

BB

Anthony from the bottom of my hart......

Quote:

Originally Posted by nofearengineer

LMAO, Anthony. That is cruel.

But seriously...

Any break in the continuous path of material from rod tip to reel seat is going to reduce the rod's transmission of vibration. How much is lost is up to the quality of the ferrule job, though it will never be as good as a continous, single piece rod blank. However, a rod that is broken by a car door isn't very sensitive either, so if space is your biggest concern, don't give sensitivity a second thought and buy the two-piece.

As far as backbone goes, the ferrule is usually made from a stronger material than the rest of the rod blank. If you bend a 2-piece rod to failure, it will almost never break at the ferrule. Yes, it does tend to have a somewhat strange looking unbent section right in the middle, but again, that's just a compromise for people who like to be able to keep 7' rods in the trunk of their car.

Ok, thanks nofear, I just got ejukuifed!

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB

just keep one of your fingers on your line and you'll feel a bump before a rod will pick it up. You'll be OK at that price, however as you can afford better gear stick with a one piece

Thanks JB, I do that with my casting outfits. Should work with my spnning out fit(s) too. Thanks for the tip!

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Originally Posted by AUFred

I don't think you lose tons of sensitivity with a 2 piece rod.
Really depends on what you are planning on using the rod for.

Drop Shots, shaky heads, wacky worms, maybe LIGHT c-rigs.

Bender · 02-28-10, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB

just keep one of your fingers on your line and you'll feel a bump before a rod will pick it up. You'll be OK at that price, however as you can afford better gear stick with a one piece

That's a great tip JB. I was fishing with a pro/guide guy I know last year and I was watching him and he did this. We were dragging drop shots and tubes on Saint Clair and it makes a big difference. When it's warm enough I've started doing this ice fishing as well.

islandbass · 03-01-10, 03:04 AM

I think the loss of sensitivity (in a good, quality two-piece rod) is negligible in most mortal hands.

I am forced to fish with 2-piece rods most of the time (since they're usually in the trunk and I'm on the go) so whether it's my 2-piece MH Compre spinning rod Compre, or my 2-piece Magtouch, graphite-handle casting rod, or my lowly clarus, any loss in sensitivity is not a show-stopper to keep me from fishing. My true one-piece rods are relegated to weekend fishing, of which lately isn't happening with the given weather.

BB, just start using braid. It would turn an ugly stick into a loomis glx. Okay, that's an exaggeration, but you will note an increase in sensitivity regardless of the rod used. No line I've used beats braid in the transmission of feedback to my hands.

Bassboss · 03-01-10, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by islandbass

I think the loss of sensitivity (in a good, quality two-piece rod) is negligible in most mortal hands.

I am forced to fish with 2-piece rods most of the time (since they're usually in the trunk and I'm on the go) so whether it's my 2-piece MH Compre spinning rod Compre, or my 2-piece Magtouch, graphite-handle casting rod, or my lowly clarus, any loss in sensitivity is not a show-stopper to keep me from fishing. My true one-piece rods are relegated to weekend fishing, of which lately isn't happening with the given weather.

BB, just start using braid. It would turn an ugly stick into a loomis glx. Okay, that's an exaggeration, but you will note an increase in sensitivity regardless of the rod used. No line I've used beats braid in the transmission of feedback to my hands.

Accually, I took you advise and put some on! I had to spend the cash I had to get minutes on my phone, so, more delays!

Figure I'd might as well make the best of what I got while I got it.

02-28-10, 11:00 AM	#1
Bassboss BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Shawano, WI Posts: 7,761	The amount of sensitivity lost in a 2 piece rod? All right, so cabelas has there Gold Label rods on sale for 20 bucks, so I was planing on getting one, but than I saw that they where 2 piece, and the whole reason I'm getting another spinning rod is because my current one is about as sensitive as a rubber band. So I don't want to get a 2 piece rod to replace my current one if it's gonna loose a lot of sensitivity. So how much sensitivity do you really think is lost in a 2 piece rod over a 1 piece? Thanks guys! __________________ If you can't fix it with heavy squats or fish oil, you're probably going to die.

02-28-10, 01:51 PM	#4
Bassboss BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Shawano, WI Posts: 7,761	Thanks guys, I think I'll jump on it! And G, it does make scene! __________________ If you can't fix it with heavy squats or fish oil, you're probably going to die.

02-28-10, 03:20 PM	#5
Bassboss BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Shawano, WI Posts: 7,761	Before I get it, 6'6", or 7'? Bot M power, Fast action. __________________ If you can't fix it with heavy squats or fish oil, you're probably going to die.

02-28-10, 04:44 PM	#6
BigBassin144 BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 9,463	bassboss, here's a simple test. Take you most sensitive rod and perform whatever sensitivity test you like the best. Next, put the rod in a car window about halfway up, and then roll up the window. Now you have a two piece rod. Perform the sensitivity test again. BB __________________ As of June 14, 2014 the members of the BF.com forum have moved to basschat.yuku.com!

02-28-10, 05:10 PM	#7
nofearengineer BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southwest IN Posts: 5,630	LMAO, Anthony. That is cruel. But seriously... Any break in the continuous path of material from rod tip to reel seat is going to reduce the rod's transmission of vibration. How much is lost is up to the quality of the ferrule job, though it will never be as good as a continous, single piece rod blank. However, a rod that is broken by a car door isn't very sensitive either, so if space is your biggest concern, don't give sensitivity a second thought and buy the two-piece. As far as backbone goes, the ferrule is usually made from a stronger material than the rest of the rod blank. If you bend a 2-piece rod to failure, it will almost never break at the ferrule. Yes, it does tend to have a somewhat strange looking unbent section right in the middle, but again, that's just a compromise for people who like to be able to keep 7' rods in the trunk of their car. __________________ Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after.

02-28-10, 12:30 PM	#2
CamG BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Superior, NE Posts: 974	I really don't think it is so much sensitivity that use lose, but the backbone of the rod. If you ever look closely at most two piece rods (with a load put on them) there will be a much longer "straight" area where the two pieces come together, instead of a steady arch finishing out to the rod tip. Hope that makes sense

02-28-10, 12:50 PM	#3
Jrob78 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 4,671	I think it's really pretty common for spinning rods to be 2 piece. If you found one you like and the price is right I would go for it.

02-28-10, 05:20 PM	#8
JB BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,655	just keep one of your fingers on your line and you'll feel a bump before a rod will pick it up. You'll be OK at that price, however as you can afford better gear stick with a one piece

02-28-10, 06:24 PM	#9
AUFred BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Prattville, Alabama Posts: 801	I don't think you lose tons of sensitivity with a 2 piece rod. Really depends on what you are planning on using the rod for.

03-01-10, 03:04 AM	#12
islandbass BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WA State Posts: 1,783	I think the loss of sensitivity (in a good, quality two-piece rod) is negligible in most mortal hands. I am forced to fish with 2-piece rods most of the time (since they're usually in the trunk and I'm on the go) so whether it's my 2-piece MH Compre spinning rod Compre, or my 2-piece Magtouch, graphite-handle casting rod, or my lowly clarus, any loss in sensitivity is not a show-stopper to keep me from fishing. My true one-piece rods are relegated to weekend fishing, of which lately isn't happening with the given weather. BB, just start using braid. It would turn an ugly stick into a loomis glx. Okay, that's an exaggeration, but you will note an increase in sensitivity regardless of the rod used. No line I've used beats braid in the transmission of feedback to my hands. __________________ ARX "If people concentrated on the really important things in life, there'd be a shortage of fishing poles." Doug Larson (Shimano 2005 Reel Catalog)

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