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Old 04-11-06, 09:11 PM   #1
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according to hillary clinton..and i quote as she was speaking to illegal immigrants protesting in N.Y...."you are america"...ain't that a kicker?
and i thought i was an american..
i'm sure that useless Bi**h just sees 11 million new votes for herself and that would be reason enough for her to suck up to the illegals.
the illegals are trying to justify their being here by saying crap like(and i quote again)"who will wash your cars and cut your grass?"
duhhhhhh.the same guy that's been doing it for the past 40-50 something years...ME!
i do believe the end of the United States of America as we know it is near..english will no longer be the primary language..looks like we'll all be speaking spanish.i really hate what has happened to our country.i think it's about time we stood up for ourselves.i have absolutely nothing against LEGAL immigration.but the illegals are just a burden on our country and i for one am sick and tired of supporting them.
WTL help me out here please...i'm too depressed to stay up here on the soapbox.and my blood pressure is sky high.

i need a drink......
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Old 04-11-06, 09:18 PM   #2
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tom sip on a absolute and dig on this, I continually fail to see how illegal immigrants can be defended in their actions. They are on U.S. soil without legal documentation, without the guarantee of any rights or protection that are extended to legal citizens of this country. I can't believe that the N.C. legislature is currently considering a bill that would give illegal immigrants (or undocumented workers as they call it) the right to have in state tuition at our state's universities and community colleges.
How outrageous is this. Our state institutions are paid for by TAXPAYERS, for the use of tax-paying citizens of this state. That is why out-of-state tuition is absorbently higher than that for NORTH CAROLINA residents. If this bill is passed, then I forsee problems arising in that legal, taxpaying college students will be bumped from spots by higher-achieving illegal aliens.
I'm all for allowing legal, regulated immigration into the United States. That's how our nation came to be, what I am against, however, is the opening of our borders to whoever desires, thus causing a heavier strain on our nation's resources than already exists.
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Old 04-11-06, 09:23 PM   #3
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They don't want to pay to stop it or enforce it, so they just close their eyes to it. Closing the border is easy, set up military posts, and fences, hopefully the guys coming back from Iraq would be there LOL. We don't need a military base say in Indiana, or Kentucky, put them where we do need them.

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"Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out!!!" lol...that might just be a tad bit extreme...
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Old 04-11-06, 10:34 PM   #5
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Just a tad, Hula .

Being in South Texas I'm familiar with it first hand. It's like gun laws-rather than pass a bunch of new ones, how about we enforce the ones already on the books? And to those high-priced blowhards in congress who think their you-know-what doesn't stink, what part of "illegal aliens" don't you undertand-the operative word here being "illegal"?
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Old 04-12-06, 01:41 AM   #6
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I'll have that drink with ya, Tom
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Old 04-12-06, 03:06 PM   #7
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ohhhhhhhhh....i best not even get started on this one....being not only from Texas....but being 3/4 "american indian".....i could hop up on that soap box and be there for quite sometime......hehehehehehe.....
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Old 04-12-06, 03:40 PM   #8
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I think it is a disgrace that the morons in Washington would even consider to allow the illegals to stay here. The drain on our country is staggering. The outragious actions displayed by the supportors of This B.S. sickens me. Why do we tolerate these illegal lawbreakers. Try to pull the same thing in Mexico. They demand schooling, funding, medical, housing, etc. See what you get if you go there and try to put a U.S. flag on top of a Mexican flag in a school yard. Yes 12 million votes for Ms. Clinton and all the other liberals. No wonder they allow this crap. If they enter and follow the proper way to become citizens and productive ones at that I have no problem. We have enough 5th and 6th generation lazy a&&ed couch potatoes draining the system. Send them all back.

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Old 04-12-06, 04:49 PM   #9
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Why not just round them up at their "riots" and deport them all!!! And I'm sick and tired of seeing them waving their mexican flags at these things!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-12-06, 04:50 PM   #10
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does this affect school budgets? our school is so poor we might not have bussing next year! we havent had any feild trips either
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Old 04-12-06, 05:18 PM   #11
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The real problem is that the majority of the people want to deport the illegals, but the people who control the media are the minority that are in the same boat as ted kennedy and hillary clinton. If GW, or anyone in congress tries to enforce the immigration laws or make new ones, the media will immediatley label them as "not understanding" or even "racist."
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Old 04-12-06, 05:33 PM   #12
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try documented native american where the red hair came from is still unknow to me..i just happened to be born in the right place -indian reservation-so i have the right to say this "take your white butt the hell back to england..."

though a documented native person i do pay taxes not that i have to but because i CAN..

the place i work at is 90% mexican workers..every body i have spoke to has agreed that the immagration laws need to be changed.they are 60 years old after all..i have know some of these guys for more than 10 years.i count many of them as friends.this subject is not nor will ever be an easy explaination.. some of my co-workers have since i have known them become an american citzens some are trying to become citzens. it takes a minimum of 5 years to become an american citzen.and add at least 1 trip to washinton dc a year...

the flag debate. i could careless if they have and display there national flag..we after all have been displaying confederate flags in america for over 150 YEARS..and yes dammit i have more than a few confederate flags in my house..they just need to remember what country they are in..

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Old 04-14-06, 07:00 AM   #13
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My grandmother on my mothers side was full siksika or better known as Blackfoot indian.My grandmother on my fathers side was full blooded Iroquois indian.I figure that makes me a nothin but a MUTT, although I used to get mohawk haircuts when I was a kid ?. P N J
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Old 04-14-06, 01:56 PM   #14
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i am documented....i just chose not to take the land and things that i really don't need away from the one's that do....but i won't get up on my soap box ....i would never get to fish if i did.....lol.....
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my paternal grandmother was from transylvania....that explains a lot.
just had to mention that...lmao
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No wonder you like night fishing so much !
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........I thought he meant the suckin' blood part...........
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Old 04-14-06, 08:41 PM   #18
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Tommy, You better get used to the B!tch. The radio announced today that she has raised a little over 20 million dollars for her campaign fund, while the other 2 running against her only has a little under $500,000.00 in their campaign funds.What ever happened to being voted in by the people ? P N J
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if she gets elected president i'm immigrating (or is it emigrating?)to mexico..hear i can pick up a house(loose term) real cheap down there.
anyway if she gets elected i'm outta here .
PNJ,how did a carpetbagger like her get elected in N.Y.anyway?all the illegals relatives must have voted for her.
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Old 04-15-06, 07:19 AM   #20
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The clintons own a 6+ million dollar home here in upstate NY, I don't remember the town. Their reason was they wanted Chelsey (spelling?)to go to school here in NY ? They bought it several years ago.I remember it had alot of people pissed off ,"Our President makes decent wages, but not that much" stickers were on alot of vehicles around here at one time.P N J
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PnJ, Chappaqua.

I don't care if someone wants to come here, become a citizen, learn english and basically, become an American. I just don't think we should allow this country to become Mexico-lite. That means we are gonna have to step up border security, perhaps even with a fence and troops stationed along it. The people here illegally, if they arent actively invovled in the process of trying to get citizenship, should be deported. Hillary Clinton....should also be deported.
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They anit fishermen. They got big bass in Mexico. If I lived close, might just have to sneek over the border with a flipping stick and my other worldly possessions( jigs and trailers).I'de be running like hell trying to find the nearest lake. P N J
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WTL ,Yep.Chappaqua is actually part of New Castle. Check this out. Is there any truth in it ? http://www.readjdm.com/main/jdm/more/105/
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Which part? Yes some people want Bush impeached, it wont happen for him just "being a bad president".
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As you watch ILLEGAL immigrants, our uninvited house guests, march in the streets demanding their rights to FREE health care, FREE schooling and FREE admission to the greatest lifestyle on earth, take special note of why our borders are wide open today, who is behind it, and for what purpose.

Before you jump on the “evil corporation” seeking “cheap labor” train, do a little real homework of your own for a change. People in desperate need of votes are far more interested in these ILLEGALS than all of corporate America combined, I assure you. The most powerful socialist politician in America provides a much needed dose of reality on the matter.

Speaking to a crowd of ILLEGAL immigrants, Taxachusetts Senator Edward Kennedy proclaimed, "I look across this historic gathering and I see the future of America. As President Kennedy proclaimed a half century ago, we are a nation of immigrants. And today, we stand together as brothers and sisters to shape America's destiny-old Americans, new Americans, future Americans—all joined together for the common good.”

For the first time ever, I almost agree with something Teddy Kennedy said. When I look at these ILLEGAL protesters in our streets, I see the future of America too…

However, even JFK wasn’t talking about ILLEGAL immigrants, and a half-century ago, nobody was hoping to replace “old-Americans”, who came here “legally” hoping to contribute to and assimilate into the real American culture, with Teddy’s “new-Americans” who come uninvited with open disdain for our laws, our culture and our language, seeking to cash-in by destroying Americas sovereignty and security. In fact, Teddy hopes to run roughshod over most “old Americans” who still believe in silly little notions like the rule of law, and national sovereignty and security.

Teddy Kennedy’s “new-Americans” come in common self-interests, at odds with any and all true American interests. A close look at who is leading the charge against America from within, should provide a sobering glimpse into your crystal ball and shake every American, even real liberals to the core.

Kennedy said “You are what this debate is about. It is about good people who come to America to work, to raise their families, to contribute to their communities, and to reach for the American dream.”

What Teddy means is, you are our new minority voting bloc, the folks tearing our country apart. It is about people (some good, some not) who come to America to work (cheap) and do our dirty jobs, contribute to our over-bloated federal spending, pay labor union dues, and help other socialist anti-American folks like me, complete the mission of establishing a ruling proletariat class in America.

The proof begins in Kennedy’s own words and continues in the flyer circulated by the Democratic Party at perp-rallies across the country.



Kennedy said “This debate goes to the heart of who we are as Americans.” It certainly does, but he wasn’t speaking to Americans, he was speaking to ILLEGAL aliens. Are Americans a people of law and order, who love and respect our nation, its principles and its heritage, or will Americans continue down the path of self-destruction, by accommodating yet another group of lawless invaders intent upon forcing Americans to assimilate into some bogus One World Order run by President Hillary and the new Secretary General of the United Nations Bill Clinton?

Kennedy added “It will determine who can earn the privilege of citizenship. It will determine our strength in separating those who would harm us from those who contribute to our values.” An interesting statement from a guy with no values at all, who has never earned anything in his entire life, I’d say. But yes it will Teddy, and we can start by separating those who entered our home with respect for our home and our laws, from those who invaded our home uninvited, ILLEGALLY and now demand our submission!

Then Teddy lets the cat out of the bag, “It will determine our future progress as a nation and our future economic growth.” He say’s “progress”, as in “progressive”, as in “socialist” as in “One World Body”, followed by “economic growth”, which translates to, we need your taxes to keep growing our federal dependency organization built upon the backs of the proletariat.

Who else is behind this “progressive” approach to immigration? The usual cast of socialist clowns of course. Read this “Immigrant Rights Action Packet” issued to protesters by the Communist Party USA. You might also enjoy “The new war on immigrants” posted on the International Socialist Review web-site.

Take a good look at these “good people” who according to Teddy Kennedy are our nation’s future. It is a “progressive” movement alright, supported by “progressives” down the street, in Wa...
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