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Old 11-14-11, 10:34 AM   #1
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Folks, I think I can shed some light on Alpha Jig!, since I have been fishing with it since 1995, some 16 years. As a former sponsored tournament fisherman I have had the opportunity to fish many different types of jigs. I am here to tell you there is nothing on the market today that will touch this jig for every kind of condition, believe me I have fished them all and this is definitely the best for all approaches and techniques. Of course I have had the opportunity to fish all three weights, 1/4, 3/8, and the 1/2 oz. There's nothing better for heavy cover, hoping the bottom , swimming or casting long distance, no problem. I have fished with the inventor, Bo James since 1995 and there are some other techniques it is used for which I don't think they want me to mention at this time. The main thing I noticed was I didn't loose hardy any jigs do to hang ups and most of the fish will indeed be hooked in the roof of the mouth. Occasionally you will hook one under the mouth, especially Kentucky's trapping it on the bottom. You will hardly hook one in the side of the mouth. One thing you didn't see in the demonstrations is it's like a cat, throw it up in the air and it will always land on it's back and upright. I always had a tenuous feeling, especially with a big fish on that it would tear off if you put too much pressure or horse it too much. If you have a good strong hook set and your line will hold then you can really lean on your fish and feel very confident you are going get them in the boat. If you have got a good hook set and your equipment holds up then you have got the fish. One of the main advantages is the dual guide arms, or " weed guards ". They actually act as locking devices and lock the hook in place in the fishes mouth and you have to physically release them in order to remove the hook, like releasing a trap as the hook will be locked in place. I am here to tell you there is definitely no hype here, this is the best thing to ever come along in jigs. If you ever get an opportunity to fish with these you will see for yourselves what I am talking about. I also use them on most of my plastics too, using the jig head bare on the plastics, they are really great for that especially in brush piles and cover. Like Pro Reel said, this is the real deal, around here it has been a closely guarded secret, but for those who know about it and can get their hand on them won't use anything else. Trust me it's well worth the $5.00 investment.
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Old 11-14-11, 11:38 AM   #2
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Where's Ridgeland?, I lived in McComb and Tylertown.
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Thats not spam. Thats the truth. I recomended these to mike234, from this site. Talked to him yesterday and he is placing another order with them today. He loaned 2 of his jigs to a buddy that was fishing a weekend tourney and now that buddy won't give them back. Says they came through brush better than any jig he used before and they caught his only 2 fish of the day, both hooked in the roof of the mouth. His buddy wanted the website to order some himself, mike won't tell him where they come from until he gets his loaner jigs back.
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Old 11-14-11, 04:09 PM   #6
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Bryce, As an engineer, I'm surprised that you don't see the design of these as being better than the traditional saftey pin style jig. I was impressed right off the bat that someone actually thought about what a jig does after a fish picks it up instead of just trying to make them look better to fisherman. Anyway, I will send you one if you will give it an actuall workout and not just toss it in your box.
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I'm always willing to field test something, but in all honesty the only thing I will probably be throwing before next Feb/March are cold weather tantrums.
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Old 11-14-11, 04:33 PM   #8
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Thats not spam. Thats the truth. I recomended these to mike234, from this site. Talked to him yesterday and he is placing another order with them today. He loaned 2 of his jigs to a buddy that was fishing a weekend tourney and now that buddy won't give them back. Says they came through brush better than any jig he used before and they caught his only 2 fish of the day, both hooked in the roof of the mouth. His buddy wanted the website to order some himself, mike won't tell him where they come from until he gets his loaner jigs back.
Ok, my bad. That's just my knee jerk reaction when somebody's first post is plugging one product or another. Carry on....

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Where's Ridgeland?, I lived in McComb and Tylertown.
It borders Jackson on the north side, between it and Madison.
Now that I know you're not a spammer, welcome to the site.
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Thats OK Missisippiboy, I told the guys at perfect strike to have some actual Missouri anglers join up and tell us about this jig. I'm sure Lunkerscore will stick around when he see's what a great site this is.
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Thanks, Mississippiboy, one Mississippiboy to another, now transplanted to Table Rock. Kinda miss Percy Quinn tho!!
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Old 11-14-11, 06:17 PM   #11
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OH NO...NOT ANOTHER MISSISSIPPIAN!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!! if this continues, this site is gonna be covered in mud. lol!!!
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Yal, Mud, Gators and Cotton Mouth, sure do miss em!!
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Old 11-14-11, 08:38 PM   #13
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I gave him the site's address today even though I did not get my jigs back. When he receives his I will get them back. He has a Bass Club meeting tonight and everyone there will have the address before its over.
I was going to fish the jigs today but 25mph winds kept me home. I do not know if it was a fluke or they really catch fish that well. but I would tend to take his word as he is a really good fisherman and most of the time places high in the tournaments. He told me he waited until end of tournament to try them and wished he had started with them.
Fishing has been really tough here the past week or so. Bite has not turned back on. We were begining to catch fish 2 weeks ago but something put them back down with lockjaw. He told me a little over 6 lbs won the tournament and that was with 14 boats fishing.
Also he said he was fishing what blow downs that were left in the water and did not get hung up. His best fish came when he hit limb on blow down and jerked it to keep it from hanging. He said as soon as it cleared the limb the LM really hit the jig hard. For a trailer he was using the Hank Parker pork rind.
He is impressed with the jig and that is good enough for me as I have known him around 20 years.

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Old 11-14-11, 09:01 PM   #14
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Maybe it's just my skeptical nature or something else, but when I read this, I keep asking myself, what's to say that this guy would not have caught these same two bass in the roof of the mouth with an Eakins, Dirty, Cabin Fever, or insert your favorite jig here, jig. I just don't see how you can ever prove these jigs catch more fish in the roof of the mouth.

Also, why do these jigs cost $5 dollars, there are no more materials or better components in these jigs than any of the other myriad of jigs on the market, maybe if they were hand tied with nice skirts and great hooks, I could see it,but seem a little overpriced.

Oh well, best of luck with your sales
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Old 11-14-11, 09:25 PM   #15
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Yup same components ,bet the 5 bucks is to make one think it will do better and some would buy them if 14.99,as noone else would have one.
My uncle hepled me tie a fly out of two white sucker sticks,thread and a sparrow feather and it caught fish so for quite some time until it was lost was the go to lure.
Hey ive got some sucker stick lures here 5 bucks ea.This was true by the way yet plenty of sucker buyers out there.
Ps floated like a cork they dont make the things that way now days.(was over 50 years ago)
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Old 11-14-11, 10:34 PM   #16
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MY Ex-father in-law owned a liquer store for years...once bought hundreds of cases of cheap domestic ripple....case stacked in the floor @ $3.99(triple what he paid) & couldn't give it away. Decided to place 2 bottles at a time by the register @ $14.99...sold it all in a few months.
Not implying thats their marketing strategy but I tend to agree with T5. ..proving hook up ratio's and placements reminds me of someone trying to prove "saved jobs"
Of course I wish them all the luck in the world..the Garcia guy PM'd me an invitation to try one and I will. If its in fact a better mousetrap I'll say so.
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The jigs are $3.99 with free shipping to anyone that want's to get them from the distributer. Right now you have to call him to get that deal. He will have a website up soon. It's Richard Garcia at.
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There is absolutly no way that anyone could prove or disprove weather this jig catch's more fish than any other jig. Even if 2 people fish together with 2 different jigs one could still smoke the other based on multiple factors. What you could prove to yourself would take time on the water. The first thing would be can you toss these jigs into thicker brushpiles and work them out without losing them? And do they consistently time after time hook all the bass that grab them in the roof of the mouth. I watched some new videos of Bo tossing them into some nasty thick stuff and crawled them right out of it. He sometimes had to jiggle them a bit and yo yo them a couple times to get them to pop over the next limb, but it was impressive. As for components such as skirts and tied or banded etc, that has nothing to do with if a fish bites the jig or if the jig hooks fish, that stuff does hook a lot of fisherman though. Any decent skirt will look good enough to a bass to pick up a jig. Any decent band should keep a skirt in place for a long time. With that being said, I do like to see tied skirts, they look like top quality, but I don't know that they help in actual fishing conditions. Untill now, there were several things that i looked for in a jig, The very first thing was a cross or horizontal line tie. If they had a vertical line tie they were worthless to me, no mater how nice every thing else was. Thats for several reasons. Denny Brauer has preached about cross line ties for many years, he himself said that vertical line ties help to turn a jig to it's side, then the single brush guard finishes it off. Vertical line ties also cause your knot to slide up and down, That cause jigs to swim at angles that are up or down instead of natural.
The 2nd thing i look for is hooks that can be resharpened. Some jigs are now coming out with the chemically sharpend hook points. Those are super sharp, until they hit a rock, then they are trash. Thats fine for my hooks that I use for plastics, but jigs are to expensive to toss in trash when the hook point gets dull from scraping a rock. The last thing I look at is skirts and bands. If i don't like a skirt or it's bands, thats easy to change or fix. I can tie some wire thread next to the band and then snip it off if I want tied skirts. I can replace stock bands with bands that hold rattles. Any of that can be done to inhance a nice jig, so it's not that important to me. I only have 2 of the alpha jigs right now, both of them have a nice skirt that is similar to the Terminator skirts. They are a slide on skirt with built in collar. I did notice on the perfect strike site that some of the jigs had banded skirts, I don't know if that is from 2 different production runs or if that was done to make certain colors that were not available in the one part skirts, I will ask when I call them again. What I do know is that Bo used a hook designed for this bait, it's not a hook that can be bought off the shelf. It has the angle that he found to be the best for his jig head design. That hook is very sharp, but it can be resharpend with a stone. The hook also has the cross line tie, and the head is cam shaped so it does stay upright when you set the hook. I've seen this in his testing machine and in actual fish caught on video. I have also heard it from a friend of my dads that has been using Bo's original design for many years. I hope to keep seeing the same thing in my actual fishing, but that depends on when I get to go again.
Now for all you that are wondering why I seem so into these jigs. At first it was because i was very impressed with them. Thats why I posted about them here, Then I was contacted by Richard and we worked a deal where they will have a logo on my reel repair site and i will put thier logo on my tourney jersey, I guess you could say they have sorta of sponsored me with free jigs in trade for advertising. This would not be something i would be the least bit interested in if i didn't think the jigs were great. The only thing I get out of it is jigs, and just enough for my personal use.

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Just seems odd to me that you or anyone else would so vehemently sing the praises of something they have never even tied line to or thrown in the water. Why not wait until you have some actual on the water time before telling everyone how great a product this is. It comes off to me like the guys that read stuff on other boards and then just parrot them in their own thread. I'm skeptical, I have said that, but for 5 dollars I want someone to make me feel like I am getting something special, not just your run of the mill banded skirt that I can buy in bulk. And I watched the videos of him throwing his jig into the heavy cover, it was kinda impressive, but I still have to say, without throwing any other jig into the same brush pile and getting it hung up, what have you actually proven. I am glad they have lowered their price, makes it more attractive, and I am sure it will be enough to get some people to make a purchase, I still think I am going to stand back and watch. If it is a great product it's not going to go anywhere, they will be available in a year. Good luck with your sponsorship.
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Just seems odd to me that you or anyone else would so vehemently sing the praises of something they have never even tied line to or thrown in the water. Why not wait until you have some actual on the water time before telling everyone how great a product this is. It comes off to me like the guys that read stuff on other boards and then just parrot them in their own thread. I'm skeptical, I have said that, but for 5 dollars I want someone to make me feel like I am getting something special, not just your run of the mill banded skirt that I can buy in bulk. And I watched the videos of him throwing his jig into the heavy cover, it was kinda impressive, but I still have to say, without throwing any other jig into the same brush pile and getting it hung up, what have you actually proven. I am glad they have lowered their price, makes it more attractive, and I am sure it will be enough to get some people to make a purchase, I still think I am going to stand back and watch. If it is a great product it's not going to go anywhere, they will be available in a year. Good luck with your sponsorship.
I understand that completly, but don't agree that i have done that. If anyone thinks i have tried to get them to buy something that i have not even used, then i'm sorry you feel that way. If you reread my posts on this, I don't think I ever said that I know it works better than other jigs, I hope it didn't sound like that because i don't know if it works better than other jigs. I won't know that until the end of next year. The reason i was so exicted about this jig and wanted to share what i had seen with you guys was because when I saw it, it just clicked. This makes sense. It's not like this is some new lure that we have never used, it's a jig. As for what a bass will see if you toss this close to one is the same thing they would see with any other jig. I don't need to fish with a jig to know if a bass would pick it up or not. A bass is going to pick up any jig that you pitch in the right spot at the right time. The key is, what happens after that? I know that I personally have lost bass before that i had a good hookset on. I also strongly believe that I have had lots of bass pick up my jigs and had them jerked right out of thier mouth without the hook point grabbing anything. I also know that i have lost a lot of jigs by hooking them in brushpiles. Just a few weeks ago, I and another friend were fishing a deep brushpile and lost several jigs in less than 30 minutes. That brushpile probably looks like a decorated Christmas tree now. When I first saw the perfect strike video, several things about it just clicked, First off, the dual brush guards just make sense. Perfect strike claims that if you use thier jigs, you will not lose nearly as many jigs during a season as you would with other single guard jigs. They have shown the jig on a video where it sure looks like it is less prone to hangups. I got the first 2 jigs from them a few days ago and tried exactly what i said i would do with them. I tied one on and tossed it through the branchs of the tree in my front yard. I was able to drag it through that tree several times and it consistently turned up and flipped over each branch. I tied on a Eakins jig and tried the same thing, it consistently snaged as the hook point didn't turn up. Eakins jigs are my go to jig, i always thought they were some of the best, now I think i found a better jig. If I can fish with one or two jigs all day and not lose them, when i know that normally i might lose several, then that would be worth paying a higher price for the jig. Let me be absolutly clear, I don't know that about these jigs yet, but it looks promising. The next thing about these jigs that initially impressed me was the testing device he used to design the cam head. I do a lot of tinkering and I have always been one of those guys that builds his own stuff or inproves stuff to fit my needs. I was impressed with the thinking that went into this jig. Bo didn't just buy a factory built jig mold of the same design that anyone else can buy and then start selling jigs. He modified existing jigs to see if he could make them turn up consistently and then he had custom molds built to cast them. One of the big reasons that no one else is doing a dual brush guard jig is that the way a jig mold works had to be completly changed to cast a jig like that. It impressed me that they had figured out how to do it and i knew i would try them when I saw that. Many of you have probably watched a show called fishing university. The guy on that show was pushing a jig a few years ago that had dual hooks. He made some of the same points that Bo makes. #1 was that he said all saftey pin style jigs will fall on there side, the dual frog style hook would always have one point facing up. #2, he said that many bass will not be hooked good with the normal jigs because of how they are prone to laying on the side and slipping to the corner of the mouth or right out of the mouth. bass hooked in the corner of the mouth can spit a jig pretty easy because it will tear a small hole in the soft skin there and if he gets any slack, he can spit it. The dual hook jig would always have one point up so it hooked better. Both of those claims made good sense, but i saw one big drawback, to me, dual hooks meant twice as much chance of getting snagged. I was not interested in that jig because i was pretty sure i could not toss it into brush without losing it. When i saw the perfect strike jig, the thought was just the oposite. The idea behind the design makes sense dual brush guards will protect the hook point better than a single guard and it actually exposes more of the hook point to the fish once they pick it up. The cam head was easy the see that it worked, the cam shaped sides turn the jig up and that can be seen with out using them. In a nut shell, when i saw this jig on the videos, i said to myself that that was the jig i wish i had thought to build myself, it just made sense. Now there are several things left to be seen about this jig. Does the paint hold up? I don't know. It looks like it's a baked powder coat and it should hold up. If it doesn't then i will be disapointed about that. Do the skirts last. I don't know why they wouldn't, the skirts on mine are the same as a terminator spinner bait and I love those because i can change them in the boat to get a color change with the same bait. I also have heard from folks that live in the Tablerock area who have been using these jigs for a long time. The guy I know there swears by them and told my Dad that they do exactly what Bo says they do and what the video shows them doing. thats good enough for me, but you guys don't know this person so I understand why that wouldn't mean squat to you. I did get a chance to try the jigs this weekend. I didn't catch a single fish on them. the conditions were the worst i have seen in some time. No one was catching fish like we normally would. I tried everything and i thought i was gonna get skunked. I finally caught one little bass on a deep diving crank and then one more on a drop shot. The only thing I was able to learn about the perfect strike jig this weekend was that it bumped into several brush piles and i didn't lose it and that it swims vertically without rolling on it's side. I only had the 3/8 size, so after a bit, i switched to a 5/8 eakins football head for a faster fall but never got bit on it either.
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Folks, I think I can shed some light on Alpha Jig!, since I have been fishing with it since 1995, some 16 years. As a former sponsored tournament fisherman I have had the opportunity to fish many different types of jigs. I am here to tell you there is nothing on the market today that will touch this jig for every kind of condition, believe me I have fished them all and this is definitely the best for all approaches and techniques. Of course I have had the opportunity to fish all three weights, 1/4, 3/8, and the 1/2 oz. There's nothing better for heavy cover, hoping the bottom , swimming or casting long distance, no problem. I have fished with the inventor, Bo James since 1995 and there are some other techniques it is used for which I don't think they want me to mention at this time
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@proreel I really wish you would put a little thought into your posts before typing them maybe then they wouldn't be so brief and unfocusedNah... seriously good points all....no worries, I just think a lot of us that have been at this awhile tend to get a little jaded
@joedog I'm often unclear when you are posting or quoting?
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Kenneth, ya i know. I quess I'm still figuring the buttons out. Thought I was quoting....guess not. I didn't want whole post quoted and thiats what I ended up with.
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@proreel I really wish you would put a little thought into your posts before typing them maybe then they wouldn't be so brief and unfocusedNah... seriously good points all....no worries, I just think a lot of us that have been at this awhile tend to get a little jaded
@joedog I'm often unclear when you are posting or quoting?
LOL, Yep, and i bet a few others will have a comment about the novel that I wrote with no paragraph breaks. I was to busy thinking about other things when i was in school and english wasn't a strong point. I understand the whole jaded concept. I have fell for a few baits that were junk myself, many of them recomended by famous tourney pros. At least I don't have any battery operated crankbaits with laser beams yet. Now, when i see or hear about a new bait or a new design of an old bait, I try to think about it logically. The perfect strike jig just seemed very logical to me and i thought that several of you might think so also. I was impressed with it when I saw the video and I'm even way more impressed with it now. I tried hard to get his jig hung up in a tree today. I took it to the local tackle shop and they tried hard to get it hung up in a tree and in some bushs. We could not get it hung up, it cralwed over and out of everything we tossed it in. I'm sure that it can get hung up, but it's not going to be easy to hang it up.
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Whew! I told my 7 yr old to read me these post so she could get her twenty minutes of reading in!
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Kevin, I honestly hope these jigs will do everything that the inventor speaks about, I hope you catch a million fish on them. I will be the guy that stands back and watches, when they work as advertised you can be the first guy to say, "I told you so".
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