CarrotStix in Trouble?

RonB · 10-13-09, 02:40 PM

I have posted on here and around that I am looking for a new Flipping stick. Anyway I went to BPS Monday morning and asked if they had the Carrotstix Gold in stock. The counter guy advised me they did not have it and prob would not be getting any as they were told Carrot Stix filed for bankruptcy. Has anyone heard this? I have asked on other forums and no one including Cabela's has heard anything about it.

Ron

TnTom · 10-13-09, 03:34 PM

Don't remember details but remember hearing they were going away.

BigBassin144 · 10-13-09, 03:52 PM

I wonder if they're taking carrot stix off the market, not necessarily e21 going bankrupt.

BB

WaffleJaw · 10-13-09, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBassin144

I wonder if they're taking carrot stix off the market, not necessarily e21 going bankrupt.

BB

So, my understanding is they're going on clearance.

nofearengineer · 10-13-09, 04:04 PM

All I heard was Boyd Duckett was not part of it anymore. I Googled it, but didn't find a single mention of bankruptcy with e21 or Carrot Stix.

CMorg · 10-13-09, 04:23 PM

Im not so much worried about the possiblity of e21 going bankrupt , but whats Ken Whitting going to do ? Hes too good to be doing nothing. I wish he would have kept AiRRUS..

skeeter944 · 10-17-09, 03:32 AM

Okay so I talked to a rep from a major tackle supplier, he told me that E21 was in the process of being sold from Ken Whitting to another person. The carrotstix will stay on the market. Boyd left because he wanted E21 to do somethings for him that was not in the companies good interest, hope i cleared some things up.

CMorg · 10-17-09, 08:56 AM

Humm , something doesnt make sense to me. Ken Sold AiRRUS to Castaway , to go work for E21 a maker of Golf Clubs I believe. I suppose Ken could have purchased E21 ? I dont know.

Racemaster33 · 10-17-09, 09:43 AM

I've got a buddy that owns a sporting goods shop. He just got an order of Carrotstix in last week. He didn't say anything about not being to get more.

I don't own one (YET) but I fell in love with it instantly when I picked it up. WOW they are so light! I think I'll own a 7'2" medium one when Santa comes around.

Basscrazie · 10-19-09, 08:29 PM

I heard the company failed to build to suit Boyd so he bailed and now no one wants the new ones,Boyd left and quality went way down...That's what I hear.. I also hear Boyd still fishes the old ones but painted them white.

rodnreel · 10-20-09, 12:46 PM

Yeah, E21 must have completely ignored some of Duckett's design details. He was obviously upset about some new rods they had sent him. Here's a good article I found on the story. Other than that, I don't think E21 will stop producing the rods. I have one and love it. Haven't had a problem yet, but I've only had it a year.

http://www.basszone.com/2009quickflips/duckett7.htm

Racemaster33 · 10-29-09, 09:00 AM

I spoke with a guy yesterday that works at the local Bass Pro Shops and he said that they have a bad problem with them breaking. He said for every 100 they sell they get 20-25 that come back broken. I also stopped at Murfreesboro Outdoors yesterday and they had 6 broken ones standing up in the corner to send back.
Glad I didn't buy one yet.

BigBassin144 · 10-29-09, 10:01 AM

From what I've read, the thing with Duckett was that e21 produced his rods to his specs, but not the ones for sale to the public. That and with the poor quality and not so great customer service with returns is why he left e21.

I wouldn't waste my money on one. I'd get a Shimano Cumara and forget about the carrot stiks.

BB

RonB · 10-30-09, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBassin144

From what I've read, the thing with Duckett was that e21 produced his rods to his specs, but not the ones for sale to the public. That and with the poor quality and not so great customer service with returns is why he left e21.

I wouldn't waste my money on one. I'd get a Shimano Cumara and forget about the carrot stiks.

BB

I was shown a Cumara when I asked about carrot Stix. The Cumara felt unbelievable, was super lite, and had the same basic reel seat as the Carrot, ...I just wish they made a flipping stick length model.

doc · 10-30-09, 02:53 PM

I have a carrot stix gold that is my main rod, it has pulled in 9lb ers, 8lbers, and more fish under 8lbs than I can count. I fish it in the nastiest stuff you can imagine, and am known to use my rod to pull the boat to where i'm snagged at. I've heard everything about them that has been mentioned here, but my gold stix has outpreformed my expectations.

Bubba_Bruiser · 10-31-09, 03:55 PM

Did you get the rod when they first came out Doc? It could be like a lot of stuff now days. They come out and burn up the market with a top quality product for a premium price. They sell like hot cakes and everyone and their brother wants a managers job or a part of the company so they let them in. They drop the quality to to give every one they know a job, eat $100 steaks and drive Beemers. And then it's to the clearance isle.

BigBassin144 · 10-31-09, 06:17 PM

Bubba, actually they had a lot of problems with the carrot stiks in the beginning, including the realization that carrot fibers don't make good rods. I don't believe them anymore, but I could be wrong.

BB

rodnreel · 11-02-09, 11:49 AM

I had the same views about these rods when they first came out, I just thought they were a gimmick. I also heard from another forum that they have a really slow parabolic flex, which delays hook sets. All I can say is that after owning one for over a year and catching over a hundred fish, it has been one of the best rods I've ever owned. I'm a firm believer in not knocking something until you try it.

bassthumb32 · 11-05-09, 06:59 PM

ken whiting is going into business with gary loomis formally of gloomis rods. they should be nice. they were having trouble finding funding last i heard though.

CMorg · 11-05-09, 08:59 PM

[QUOTE=bassthumb32;273680]ken whiting is going into business with gary loomis formally of gloomis rods. they should be nice. they were having trouble finding funding last i heard though.[/QUOTE]

Holy

it , I cant wait. Im selling all my rods now... I knew Ken and Gary were friends. This should be a good thing. Unless Gary gets the job of pricing the rods ....

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BassMoJo · 11-06-09, 04:08 PM

That's awsome I just started a new savings account!

TN_Bassin · 11-07-09, 10:45 PM

There are to many rumors going around about the carrot stix and to little facts. I have not had any problems out of mine, but a few buddies broke a couple of theirs on hook sets. And the most recent rumor I've heard is that they are discontinuing carrot stix due to the massive amounts of breaks that occured. More than likely they will pull carrot stix off the market and rework them and release them again, but who knows.

10-13-09, 02:40 PM	#1
RonB BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 68	CarrotStix in Trouble? I have posted on here and around that I am looking for a new Flipping stick. Anyway I went to BPS Monday morning and asked if they had the Carrotstix Gold in stock. The counter guy advised me they did not have it and prob would not be getting any as they were told Carrot Stix filed for bankruptcy. Has anyone heard this? I have asked on other forums and no one including Cabela's has heard anything about it. Ron

10-13-09, 03:34 PM	#2
TnTom BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Woodbury Tn Posts: 119	Don't remember details but remember hearing they were going away. __________________ When fishin poles are outlawed only outlaws will have fishin poles and Shimano reels.

10-13-09, 03:52 PM	#3
BigBassin144 BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 9,463	I wonder if they're taking carrot stix off the market, not necessarily e21 going bankrupt. BB __________________ As of June 14, 2014 the members of the BF.com forum have moved to basschat.yuku.com!

10-13-09, 04:04 PM	#5
nofearengineer BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southwest IN Posts: 5,630	All I heard was Boyd Duckett was not part of it anymore. I Googled it, but didn't find a single mention of bankruptcy with e21 or Carrot Stix. __________________ Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after.

10-17-09, 09:43 AM	#9
Racemaster33 BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 33	carrotstix I've got a buddy that owns a sporting goods shop. He just got an order of Carrotstix in last week. He didn't say anything about not being to get more. I don't own one (YET) but I fell in love with it instantly when I picked it up. WOW they are so light! I think I'll own a 7'2" medium one when Santa comes around.

10-13-09, 04:23 PM	#6
CMorg BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Southern , IN Posts: 1,832	Im not so much worried about the possiblity of e21 going bankrupt , but whats Ken Whitting going to do ? Hes too good to be doing nothing. I wish he would have kept AiRRUS..

10-17-09, 03:32 AM	#7
skeeter944 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Somewhere in South Carolina Posts: 2,377	Okay so I talked to a rep from a major tackle supplier, he told me that E21 was in the process of being sold from Ken Whitting to another person. The carrotstix will stay on the market. Boyd left because he wanted E21 to do somethings for him that was not in the companies good interest, hope i cleared some things up.

10-17-09, 08:56 AM	#8
CMorg BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Southern , IN Posts: 1,832	Humm , something doesnt make sense to me. Ken Sold AiRRUS to Castaway , to go work for E21 a maker of Golf Clubs I believe. I suppose Ken could have purchased E21 ? I dont know.

10-19-09, 08:29 PM	#10
Basscrazie BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: magnolia,tx Posts: 398	I heard the company failed to build to suit Boyd so he bailed and now no one wants the new ones,Boyd left and quality went way down...That's what I hear.. I also hear Boyd still fishes the old ones but painted them white.

10-20-09, 12:46 PM	#11
rodnreel BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Jamestown, OH Posts: 310	Yeah, E21 must have completely ignored some of Duckett's design details. He was obviously upset about some new rods they had sent him. Here's a good article I found on the story. Other than that, I don't think E21 will stop producing the rods. I have one and love it. Haven't had a problem yet, but I've only had it a year. http://www.basszone.com/2009quickflips/duckett7.htm __________________ "If you become a jack of all bass fishing trades but a master of none, you're setting yourself up for mediocrity." - Denny Brauer

10-29-09, 09:00 AM	#12
Racemaster33 BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 33	Broken rods I spoke with a guy yesterday that works at the local Bass Pro Shops and he said that they have a bad problem with them breaking. He said for every 100 they sell they get 20-25 that come back broken. I also stopped at Murfreesboro Outdoors yesterday and they had 6 broken ones standing up in the corner to send back. Glad I didn't buy one yet.

10-29-09, 10:01 AM	#13
BigBassin144 BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 9,463	From what I've read, the thing with Duckett was that e21 produced his rods to his specs, but not the ones for sale to the public. That and with the poor quality and not so great customer service with returns is why he left e21. I wouldn't waste my money on one. I'd get a Shimano Cumara and forget about the carrot stiks. BB __________________ As of June 14, 2014 the members of the BF.com forum have moved to basschat.yuku.com!

10-30-09, 02:53 PM	#15
doc BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,134	I have a carrot stix gold that is my main rod, it has pulled in 9lb ers, 8lbers, and more fish under 8lbs than I can count. I fish it in the nastiest stuff you can imagine, and am known to use my rod to pull the boat to where i'm snagged at. I've heard everything about them that has been mentioned here, but my gold stix has outpreformed my expectations.

10-31-09, 03:55 PM	#16
Bubba_Bruiser BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South MS Posts: 3,659	Did you get the rod when they first came out Doc? It could be like a lot of stuff now days. They come out and burn up the market with a top quality product for a premium price. They sell like hot cakes and everyone and their brother wants a managers job or a part of the company so they let them in. They drop the quality to to give every one they know a job, eat $100 steaks and drive Beemers. And then it's to the clearance isle. __________________ \,,,,/ ROCK ON! HRN4L!

10-31-09, 06:17 PM	#17
BigBassin144 BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 9,463	Bubba, actually they had a lot of problems with the carrot stiks in the beginning, including the realization that carrot fibers don't make good rods. I don't believe them anymore, but I could be wrong. BB __________________ As of June 14, 2014 the members of the BF.com forum have moved to basschat.yuku.com!

11-02-09, 11:49 AM	#18
rodnreel BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Jamestown, OH Posts: 310	I had the same views about these rods when they first came out, I just thought they were a gimmick. I also heard from another forum that they have a really slow parabolic flex, which delays hook sets. All I can say is that after owning one for over a year and catching over a hundred fish, it has been one of the best rods I've ever owned. I'm a firm believer in not knocking something until you try it. __________________ "If you become a jack of all bass fishing trades but a master of none, you're setting yourself up for mediocrity." - Denny Brauer

11-05-09, 06:59 PM	#19
bassthumb32 BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Fort Loudon, PA Posts: 682	ken whiting is going into business with gary loomis formally of gloomis rods. they should be nice. they were having trouble finding funding last i heard though. __________________ MY LIFETIME GOAL IS TO KEEP AT LEAST A SMALL CASE OF BASSTHUMB FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.

11-05-09, 08:59 PM	#20
CMorg BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Southern , IN Posts: 1,832	[QUOTE=bassthumb32;273680]ken whiting is going into business with gary loomis formally of gloomis rods. they should be nice. they were having trouble finding funding last i heard though.[/QUOTE] Holy it , I cant wait. Im selling all my rods now... I knew Ken and Gary were friends. This should be a good thing. Unless Gary gets the job of pricing the rods .....

11-06-09, 04:08 PM	#21
BassMoJo BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hampstead, MD Posts: 801	That's awsome I just started a new savings account! __________________ This is my Signature there are many like it, but this one is mine.

11-07-09, 10:45 PM	#22
TN_Bassin BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bon Aqua,TN Posts: 1,013	There are to many rumors going around about the carrot stix and to little facts. I have not had any problems out of mine, but a few buddies broke a couple of theirs on hook sets. And the most recent rumor I've heard is that they are discontinuing carrot stix due to the massive amounts of breaks that occured. More than likely they will pull carrot stix off the market and rework them and release them again, but who knows. __________________ Other anglers are tough, but the fish are the real competition.

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