Kvd Dq'd

basser087 · 03-28-06, 10:03 AM

KVD was dq'd from stop #3 for letting his co-angler idle around areas while he looked for bedding bass. HOw do you guys weigh in on him being dq'd for the whole tournament? Ike can break light pole and set a horrible example for all of the kids who look up to him and he loses one days weight but KVD is letting his partner idle him around and he's dq'd for the whole tournament. What's your opinion?

betursweetbass · 03-28-06, 10:29 AM

Oooops, is that what it says in the rule books, guess the pros should take the time to get familar with them. I think it's good that the rules are enforced, it should be that way, as far as the price he had to pay, well, that's up to the powers that be. Thanks for the news about KVD, and in case some of you haven't seen or heard about this recent event (like me), here's the article.

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/b...m_disqualified

bassintxlady · 03-28-06, 11:54 AM

Well i guess that goes to show ya that no one is exempt from the rules after all....and i think that ike's case throwing a fit isn't trying to get an unfair advantage over the other anglers as they state in the article....as i tell the doctors i work with all the time...."read everything before you sign that you did"!!!!!.....then nothing comes back to haunt you as we see has happened to KVD on this trip.....better luck next time buddy....i like Kevin ...he's a straight up angler...i'm sure he's feeling very bad about the whole thing now.....

Skeeter · 03-28-06, 12:16 PM

Seems like kind of a Chicken **** rule/technicality to get DQ'd for but if that's the rules, so be it.

Rodman_Rob · 03-28-06, 12:27 PM

gotta agree, kinda chickensh!t rule to get DQ'd over, think a penalty of a few pounds knocked off his total would have been more fitting, but I guess rules are rules.

everettvet · 03-28-06, 01:22 PM

I hate to hear that any angler gets dq'ed. From the outside looking in, it seems that ike's blowup at the classic was worse. After reading the article on bassmaster website, I can understand how he would have an unfair advantage if every pro was not practicing with someone so they could potentially do the same thing. However, he should have known the rules and could have had the coangler watching for beds while he drove the boat.

Skeeter · 03-28-06, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by everettvet

I hate to hear that any angler gets dq'ed. From the outside looking in, it seems that ike's blowup at the classic was worse. After reading the article on bassmaster website, I can understand how he would have an unfair advantage if every pro was not practicing with someone so they could potentially do the same thing. However, he should have known the rules and could have had the coangler watching for beds while he drove the boat.

I agree, he broke the rules, impart a penalty of some sort. Just seems a DQ from the entire tourney is a bit harsh. Seriously, how much more of an advantage is he getting having the other individual "idling" the big motor and searching as opposed to cranking up the trolling motor on high and doing the same thing?

Skeeter

everettvet · 03-28-06, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeeter

I agree, he broke the rules, impart a penalty of some sort. Just seems a DQ from the entire tourney is a bit harsh. Seriously, how much more of an advantage is he getting having the other individual "idling" the big motor and searching as opposed to cranking up the trolling motor on high and doing the same thing?

Skeeter

The only advantage he would have by using the outboard as apposed to the trolling motor, as I see it, would be the amount of ground he covered in a lot shorter time. Too tough a sentence for KVD or not doesn't matter. According to bass he broke the rules and gets to be a spectator.
Like I said, I thought ike deserved alot tougher ruling than what he got. I thought he needed to be dq'ed for the tourney. Then the next week, he lost is ranger sponsorship.

Bet these guys don't do that again. We all live and learn by our mistakes.

bassintom · 03-28-06, 07:55 PM

even though i believe KVD probably never read the entire rules..that would be his responsibility..a rule is a rule and if the punishment for that offense is an entire tourney DQ then so be it.if we wish to maintain our integrity as a sport it is imperative we play by the rules....we have a duty to follow rules and set an example,if we hope to keep bass fishing.as there are others out there that would love to use fodder for their cannons like that to stop us from fishing...rules are rules..these are not made to be broken.....whew!glad i got that off my chest.

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zooker · 03-28-06, 07:55 PM

the one rule you are missing here that he broke is the boater -in this case the pro-must be in control of the boat at ALL times...
granted they came down a tad harsh on him.. while ike did not really break any rule just lost his temper. there is no rule against cussing a blue streak and breaking a light pole in anger-that is just unprofessional- hence the ONLY way they could punish him is the unsportsman like conduct charge. and dis avowing his days catch...i am not an ike fan but this does make more sense..

zooker

KenDammit · 03-28-06, 08:43 PM

the ruling makes sense, but does it mean that the actual rule itself makes sense? DQ'ing someone for an entire tournament over a co-angler operating a boat, regardless of the reason(other than the ones stated).....that seems a bit harsh, yeah? Seems that a weight penalty would be the more "sensible" punishment for something like that. Or a 1 day DQ.

bass kicker · 03-28-06, 09:08 PM

why didnt he just ask the non boater to go up front to look for the beds

Lee Boy · 03-28-06, 09:22 PM

exactly, kvd's my boy but he should of know the rules hell i study that s*** ever trny im in but bein Dq'd to damn crazy could of gave a penalty r sum then

03-28-06, 10:03 AM	#1
basser087 BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Niles, Mi Posts: 75	Kvd Dq'd KVD was dq'd from stop #3 for letting his co-angler idle around areas while he looked for bedding bass. HOw do you guys weigh in on him being dq'd for the whole tournament? Ike can break light pole and set a horrible example for all of the kids who look up to him and he loses one days weight but KVD is letting his partner idle him around and he's dq'd for the whole tournament. What's your opinion?

03-28-06, 12:27 PM	#5
Rodman_Rob BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ocala, FL. 1/2 hour southwest of Rodman Posts: 1,702	gotta agree, kinda chickensh!t rule to get DQ'd over, think a penalty of a few pounds knocked off his total would have been more fitting, but I guess rules are rules. __________________ Lizardsrule may not be able to drive a boat, but he can sure put you on the fish!

03-28-06, 07:55 PM	#9
bassintom BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: washington(northwest) N.J. Posts: 3,958	even though i believe KVD probably never read the entire rules..that would be his responsibility..a rule is a rule and if the punishment for that offense is an entire tourney DQ then so be it.if we wish to maintain our integrity as a sport it is imperative we play by the rules....we have a duty to follow rules and set an example,if we hope to keep bass fishing.as there are others out there that would love to use fodder for their cannons like that to stop us from fishing...rules are rules..these are not made to be broken.....whew!glad i got that off my chest. soapbox?anyone? pet my dog? __________________ A man's gotta believe in something...I believe I'll go fishing.

03-28-06, 07:55 PM	#10
zooker BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: denton nc Posts: 13,441	the one rule you are missing here that he broke is the boater -in this case the pro-must be in control of the boat at ALL times... granted they came down a tad harsh on him.. while ike did not really break any rule just lost his temper. there is no rule against cussing a blue streak and breaking a light pole in anger-that is just unprofessional- hence the ONLY way they could punish him is the unsportsman like conduct charge. and dis avowing his days catch...i am not an ike fan but this does make more sense.. zooker __________________ the godfather.. aml in remission since 7-20-09

03-28-06, 09:08 PM	#12
bass kicker BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Beamsville,ONTARIO,CANADA Posts: 2,023	why didnt he just ask the non boater to go up front to look for the beds __________________ Rob Downs St. Catharines BASSMASTERS

03-28-06, 10:29 AM	#2
betursweetbass BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 646	Oooops, is that what it says in the rule books, guess the pros should take the time to get familar with them. I think it's good that the rules are enforced, it should be that way, as far as the price he had to pay, well, that's up to the powers that be. Thanks for the news about KVD, and in case some of you haven't seen or heard about this recent event (like me), here's the article. http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/b...m_disqualified

03-28-06, 11:54 AM	#3
bassintxlady BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cypress,Texas Posts: 780	Well i guess that goes to show ya that no one is exempt from the rules after all....and i think that ike's case throwing a fit isn't trying to get an unfair advantage over the other anglers as they state in the article....as i tell the doctors i work with all the time...."read everything before you sign that you did"!!!!!.....then nothing comes back to haunt you as we see has happened to KVD on this trip.....better luck next time buddy....i like Kevin ...he's a straight up angler...i'm sure he's feeling very bad about the whole thing now..... __________________ :) OH YEAH!!!!! SHUT UP AND FISH!!!!!

03-28-06, 12:16 PM	#4
Skeeter BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: washington Posts: 284	Seems like kind of a Chicken **** rule/technicality to get DQ'd for but if that's the rules, so be it.

03-28-06, 01:22 PM	#6
everettvet BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Paducah, KY Posts: 730	I hate to hear that any angler gets dq'ed. From the outside looking in, it seems that ike's blowup at the classic was worse. After reading the article on bassmaster website, I can understand how he would have an unfair advantage if every pro was not practicing with someone so they could potentially do the same thing. However, he should have known the rules and could have had the coangler watching for beds while he drove the boat.

03-28-06, 08:43 PM	#11
KenDammit BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Richmond, KY Posts: 691	the ruling makes sense, but does it mean that the actual rule itself makes sense? DQ'ing someone for an entire tournament over a co-angler operating a boat, regardless of the reason(other than the ones stated).....that seems a bit harsh, yeah? Seems that a weight penalty would be the more "sensible" punishment for something like that. Or a 1 day DQ.

03-28-06, 09:22 PM	#13
Lee Boy BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southaven,Ms Posts: 28	exactly, kvd's my boy but he should of know the rules hell i study that s*** ever trny im in but bein Dq'd to damn crazy could of gave a penalty r sum then

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