baitcaster lines??

boloson · 04-06-11, 05:57 PM

do baicasters cast better or more manageable with certain lines versus others? i've heard that the thicker the line the more manageable but does it make a difference if it were mono vs flouro vs braid?

MississippiBoy · 04-06-11, 06:08 PM

Line diameter does make a difference. But mono, fluoro, and braid are extremely different. Braid is very limp, mono is kinda stiff, and fluoro is stiffer than mono (generally speaking). If you hold some braid a couple of inches from the end, it won't really stick out to the side...it'll droop down, whereas mono and fluoro will both defy gravity.
I sometimes have a hard time tying knots with braid because I can't get the #$%^$@ end of it to go through the %@#$%$%& hole. It keeps bending over and won't go through. I don't have this problem with mono or fluoro because of their stiffness.
Fluoro is usually the one that gives people headaches because it likes to spring off spinning reels and makes these beautiful but pain-in-the-butt coils during the cast.
Also, thicker line is stiffer, therefore LESS manageable, than thinner line.

keithdog · 04-06-11, 06:44 PM

OK, this is ONLY my point of view. I enjoy casting both mono and braid on baitcasters. Mono is perhaps the easiest to cast and use. But braid works great too. Like MB said, it has some issues when tying knots and so forth, but for me I can cast it just fine and dandy. But I really do not like Flourocarbon for casting period. I know some guys use it often and love it. Myself, I have "A LOT" more trouble with backlashes using flourocarbon line. I used it a couple times and got rid of the stuff. Again, that only my opinion. But for the price you pay for a good flourocarbon, I'd rather use something like P Lines flouroclear with is a flourocarbon coated copoly line. Much cheeper and cast great. Also much more supple than flourocarbon.

Bassboss · 04-06-11, 07:21 PM

Bait casters handle thicker (which usually means less manageable) lines better than spinning reels due to spool design. You see people using 17, and even 20 pound flourocarbon and mono on a baitcaster with little to no problems. I doubt anyone would use that heavy of line on a spinning reel for bass fishing. With braid it does not really matter, the stuff is limp as limp can get, granted I would never use any braid over 30lb on a spinning reel, because of sport, and cast ability (thinner line casts better because it has friction friction on the line guides).

walkeraviator · 04-07-11, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MississippiBoy

because I can't get the #$%^$@ end of it to go through the %@#$%$%& hole. It keeps bending over and won't go through..

are we still talkin fishing line here?

MississippiBoy · 04-07-11, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by walkeraviator

are we still talkin fishing line here?

I had JUST taken a sip of coffee and barely had a chance to swallow it before I read that. Otherwise, I'd be in all kinds of trouble...

And YES, I'm talking about fishing line....

DVT Mike · 04-07-11, 10:42 AM

Braid smaller than 20# (8# equiv) may have a tendency to dig into the spool. This is becoming less of a problem as braided lines evolve becoming smoother and rounder. Mono or good braid is much easier to learn with than fluoro.

boloson · 04-07-11, 10:16 PM

the reason i ask u guys is because i had been practicing in my backyard with braid & have minimal backlashes. for the past week or so i've been going to my local lake & the backlashes increased by a lot. would a wet braid be the cause?

bamabassman · 04-07-11, 11:21 PM

mississippiboy...........you need help buddy. lol.

other than MB's nice wording, he is correct on his post. and yes walker.......i am glad i didn't have my drink in my hand as i read that too. hahahaha.

boloson, the reasons you are bcklashing in the lake is your thumb buddy. NOT the line. practing in your yard is ok.....to an extent. grass and water are 2 different things. the yard is a good place to get the "feel" of your set up (NO JOKES HERE! LOL), BUT IT is DIFFERENT WHEN YOU ARE ON THE WATER. jsut tighten up on your brakes a little till you get the hang of it.

IowaBasser · 04-08-11, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DVT Mike

Braid smaller than 20# (8# equiv) may have a tendency to dig into the spool. This is becoming less of a problem as braided lines evolve becoming smoother and rounder.

What lines would you say have evolved so "line-dig" is less of a problem? I use spinning reels and typically light braid (super-lines liek fire wire or spider witre) 8# - 12# ...line dig can be a problem on spinning gear. I typically would use a heavier braid on a bait-casting reel, so not as much of an issue for me.

boloson · 04-08-11, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bamabassman

mississippiboy...........you need help buddy. lol.

other than MB's nice wording, he is correct on his post. and yes walker.......i am glad i didn't have my drink in my hand as i read that too. hahahaha.

boloson, the reasons you are bcklashing in the lake is your thumb buddy. NOT the line. practing in your yard is ok.....to an extent. grass and water are 2 different things. the yard is a good place to get the "feel" of your set up (NO JOKES HERE! LOL), BUT IT is DIFFERENT WHEN YOU ARE ON THE WATER. jsut tighten up on your brakes a little till you get the hang of it.

It's backlashing before it hits the water and I'm not doing anything different at all. Yes I definitely need more practice but man It's frustrating

bamabassman · 04-08-11, 10:07 PM

it'll happen boloson.it'll happen.

now i NEVER get a backlash............nope, never. that's my story and i am sticking to it. (as i curse the reel for line overdose. BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHA)

MORAL IS BOLOSON, everybody THAT FISHES GETS A BACKLASH OR LINE OVER RUN. heck i get one for real about every 3 casts.

boloson · 04-08-11, 10:30 PM

ok now i dont feel as bad. went on the water today & turned on 1 brake so no backlashes but can't cast too far. man this baticasting stuff is a pain. don't know why people don't stick to spinning

WatterBoy · 04-08-11, 10:38 PM

Yeah, you guys aren't making a great case for me to attempt the switch to baitcasters. All I have used in the past is spinning reels and I know you guys all say I should switch, but I don't know. . .

bamabassman · 04-08-11, 10:54 PM

hahahaha.....listen.....SPINNING reels do the same thing. line gets all twisted up on those too. at least MINE do. hahahaha.

WatterBoy · 04-08-11, 10:59 PM

I don't have any problems with spinning gear like what you guys are talking about.

boloson · 04-08-11, 11:02 PM

yes no spinning reel problems for me too. i can whip spinning as hard as i can & never backlash but won't launch as far as baicaster. that's the only real difference i've found.... baitcaster cast further with less effort

CamG · 04-09-11, 12:15 PM

If I had to only use spinning reels for bass fishing, I'd most likely quit. It takes a real ****ty day for me to grab the spinning rod most of the time.

Baitcasters are not the easiest things to get the hang of. But, I promise once you do, you will love them. With the reels of today backlashes really shouldn't be any issue if they are set up correctly.

boloson · 04-09-11, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CamG

If I had to only use spinning reels for bass fishing, I'd most likely quit. It takes a real ****ty day for me to grab the spinning rod most of the time.

Baitcasters are not the easiest things to get the hang of. But, I promise once you do, you will love them. With the reels of today backlashes really shouldn't be any issue if they are set up correctly.

asides from my limited experience with baitcasters could it also be my set up? when i spooled my spool i can see the line not lining up straight. the spool on my reel is almost the width of a pencil (curado 301E) & my other baitcaster is a quantum. the quantum's spool is the wiffle type & it's much larger in width then my curado. spooling the quantum seemed smoother while the curado would bunch up on its right & left side making it uneven in the middle. is this the norm for this particular curado model?

CamG · 04-09-11, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by boloson

asides from my limited experience with baitcasters could it also be my set up? when i spooled my spool i can see the line not lining up straight. the spool on my reel is almost the width of a pencil (curado 301E) & my other baitcaster is a quantum. the quantum's spool is the wiffle type & it's much larger in width then my curado. spooling the quantum seemed smoother while the curado would bunch up on its right & left side making it uneven in the middle. is this the norm for this particular curado model?

Nothing really out of the ordinary on a Curado, or any other reel for that matter. I doubt it has anything to do with the backlashing.

boloson · 04-10-11, 11:16 PM

well....got to target casting today & flipping practice & played around with the brakes & tensioner. i found that if i turned on a set of brakes & loosen the tensioner more then normal, the cast is nice & smooth & long distance casting aint too bad either. more manageable & minimal backlash

04-06-11, 05:57 PM	#1
boloson BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 303	baitcaster lines?? do baicasters cast better or more manageable with certain lines versus others? i've heard that the thicker the line the more manageable but does it make a difference if it were mono vs flouro vs braid?

04-06-11, 06:08 PM	#2
MississippiBoy BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ridgeland MS Posts: 3,923	Line diameter does make a difference. But mono, fluoro, and braid are extremely different. Braid is very limp, mono is kinda stiff, and fluoro is stiffer than mono (generally speaking). If you hold some braid a couple of inches from the end, it won't really stick out to the side...it'll droop down, whereas mono and fluoro will both defy gravity. I sometimes have a hard time tying knots with braid because I can't get the #$%^$@ end of it to go through the %@#$%$%& hole. It keeps bending over and won't go through. I don't have this problem with mono or fluoro because of their stiffness. Fluoro is usually the one that gives people headaches because it likes to spring off spinning reels and makes these beautiful but pain-in-the-butt coils during the cast. Also, thicker line is stiffer, therefore LESS manageable, than thinner line. __________________ I smell smoke, and I hear sirens. Do you think that's a problem?

04-06-11, 06:44 PM	#3
keithdog BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: IN Posts: 8,308	OK, this is ONLY my point of view. I enjoy casting both mono and braid on baitcasters. Mono is perhaps the easiest to cast and use. But braid works great too. Like MB said, it has some issues when tying knots and so forth, but for me I can cast it just fine and dandy. But I really do not like Flourocarbon for casting period. I know some guys use it often and love it. Myself, I have "A LOT" more trouble with backlashes using flourocarbon line. I used it a couple times and got rid of the stuff. Again, that only my opinion. But for the price you pay for a good flourocarbon, I'd rather use something like P Lines flouroclear with is a flourocarbon coated copoly line. Much cheeper and cast great. Also much more supple than flourocarbon. __________________ Just one more cast, and then some!

04-06-11, 07:21 PM	#4
Bassboss BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Shawano, WI Posts: 7,761	Bait casters handle thicker (which usually means less manageable) lines better than spinning reels due to spool design. You see people using 17, and even 20 pound flourocarbon and mono on a baitcaster with little to no problems. I doubt anyone would use that heavy of line on a spinning reel for bass fishing. With braid it does not really matter, the stuff is limp as limp can get, granted I would never use any braid over 30lb on a spinning reel, because of sport, and cast ability (thinner line casts better because it has friction friction on the line guides). __________________ If you can't fix it with heavy squats or fish oil, you're probably going to die.

04-07-11, 10:42 AM	#7
DVT Mike BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Milford,PA Posts: 312	Braid smaller than 20# (8# equiv) may have a tendency to dig into the spool. This is becoming less of a problem as braided lines evolve becoming smoother and rounder. Mono or good braid is much easier to learn with than fluoro. __________________ Visit us at www.delawarevalleytackle.com

04-07-11, 10:16 PM	#8
boloson BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 303	the reason i ask u guys is because i had been practicing in my backyard with braid & have minimal backlashes. for the past week or so i've been going to my local lake & the backlashes increased by a lot. would a wet braid be the cause?

04-07-11, 11:21 PM	#9
bamabassman BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: cedar bluff, alabama Posts: 15,292	mississippiboy...........you need help buddy. lol. other than MB's nice wording, he is correct on his post. and yes walker.......i am glad i didn't have my drink in my hand as i read that too. hahahaha. boloson, the reasons you are bcklashing in the lake is your thumb buddy. NOT the line. practing in your yard is ok.....to an extent. grass and water are 2 different things. the yard is a good place to get the "feel" of your set up (NO JOKES HERE! LOL), BUT IT is DIFFERENT WHEN YOU ARE ON THE WATER. jsut tighten up on your brakes a little till you get the hang of it. __________________ so many lures, so little time.

04-08-11, 10:07 PM	#12
bamabassman BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: cedar bluff, alabama Posts: 15,292	it'll happen boloson.it'll happen. now i NEVER get a backlash............nope, never. that's my story and i am sticking to it. (as i curse the reel for line overdose. BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHA) MORAL IS BOLOSON, everybody THAT FISHES GETS A BACKLASH OR LINE OVER RUN. heck i get one for real about every 3 casts. __________________ so many lures, so little time.

04-08-11, 10:30 PM	#13
boloson BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 303	ok now i dont feel as bad. went on the water today & turned on 1 brake so no backlashes but can't cast too far. man this baticasting stuff is a pain. don't know why people don't stick to spinning

04-08-11, 10:38 PM	#14
WatterBoy BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Owatonna, MN Posts: 2,280	Yeah, you guys aren't making a great case for me to attempt the switch to baitcasters. All I have used in the past is spinning reels and I know you guys all say I should switch, but I don't know. . .

04-08-11, 10:54 PM	#15
bamabassman BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: cedar bluff, alabama Posts: 15,292	hahahaha.....listen.....SPINNING reels do the same thing. line gets all twisted up on those too. at least MINE do. hahahaha. __________________ so many lures, so little time.

04-08-11, 10:59 PM	#16
WatterBoy BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Owatonna, MN Posts: 2,280	I don't have any problems with spinning gear like what you guys are talking about.

04-08-11, 11:02 PM	#17
boloson BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 303	yes no spinning reel problems for me too. i can whip spinning as hard as i can & never backlash but won't launch as far as baicaster. that's the only real difference i've found.... baitcaster cast further with less effort

04-09-11, 12:15 PM	#18
CamG BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Superior, NE Posts: 974	If I had to only use spinning reels for bass fishing, I'd most likely quit. It takes a real ****ty day for me to grab the spinning rod most of the time. Baitcasters are not the easiest things to get the hang of. But, I promise once you do, you will love them. With the reels of today backlashes really shouldn't be any issue if they are set up correctly.

04-10-11, 11:16 PM	#21
boloson BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 303	well....got to target casting today & flipping practice & played around with the brakes & tensioner. i found that if i turned on a set of brakes & loosen the tensioner more then normal, the cast is nice & smooth & long distance casting aint too bad either. more manageable & minimal backlash

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