Wow I never knew this

[Captmikestarrett]

20-POUND BRAIDED-LINE TENSILE STRENGTHS

Manufacturer LineColor Actual Break (Lbs.) % Rated Strength
BerkleyFireline black & flo-green 54.5 273%
Triple FishBully BraidMoss green 46.3 232%
CortlandMaster BraidEmerald green 41.6 208%
CortlandSpectron white 41.3 207%
SpiderWireStealth green 39.7 199%
StrenSuper Braid hi-vis gold 37.6 188%
SpiderWireSpiderline Moss green 35.7 179%
AndeBraidfluoresc yellow 34.6 173%
Western FilamentTuf Lineblack & white 34.5 173%
Western FilamentTuf Line XPgreen 33.8 169%
PowerProSuperline Moss green 33.0 165%
PlatypusBionic Braidpink 31.5 158%
IzorlineSpectra green 30.5 153%
Offshore AnglerMagibraid green 30.0 150%
Cabela'sRipcord Si Plusgreen 27.6 138%
SufixPerformance Braidlo-vis green 23.4 117%


Ok so most braid manufactors underate there line for knots. But with knots only losing 10-15 % they are way over ratings.

This was done by IFGA research in Floriduh.

Capt Mike

[Bassboss]

humm, that's pretty cool!

so 20lb fire line breaks at about 50lbs of pressure!

btw, IGFA is about an hour away from me, right next the BPS!

[nofearengineer]

I doubt they're over-stating anything, technically. Load ratings (of any material, not just fishing line) are typically reported for commerical use as the maximum repeatable load allowable with no damage to the material. So while the 20lb line may in fact break at 50lb, it may start to yield at 30lb or lower. It's the difference between elastic strain (reversible) and inelastic strain (yield).

I have the feeling I just made this as clear as mud.

[Fishnngolfn]

Originally Posted by nofearengineer

I doubt they're over-stating anything, technically. Load ratings (of any material, not just fishing line) are typically reported for commerical use as the maximum repeatable load allowable with no damage to the material. So while the 20lb line may in fact break at 50lb, it may start to yield at 30lb or lower. It's the difference between elastic strain (reversible) and inelastic strain (yield).

I have the feeling I just made this as clear as mud.

As a fellow engineer, I completely understood what you wrote.

[MississippiBoy]

Let me see if my C-3PO unit translated this correctly... A one-time test on a section of 20 lbs test braided line may show that it breaks at 50 lbs, but it may be damaged once the stress gets to, say, 30 lbs. So if you put 30 lbs of force on the same piece of line repeatedly, then strained it to its breaking point, it may break at something less than 50 lbs. But if you just strained it to 20 lbs over and over, it still would hold till 50 lbs? Or am I thinking way too hard about this?

Never mind...this is thinking way too hard about something...

[nofearengineer]

You got it exactly.

Now while fishing line has other factors that affect its strength and performance, i.e. sunlight, oxidation, nicks and scratches, etc., in a perfect world, you have it exactly right.

[Captmikestarrett]

If you would like to see the full article.

http://www.sportfishingmag.com/article.jsp?ID=43557

Very interesting..



Capt Mike

[JB]

I still say one of zookers hookset from hell will break braid at any rated tinsel strength lol

[BassinID]

Nofearengineer, you got it, well stated. As a fellow engineer (yet to graduate) It is nice to see someone looking as test ratings rationally. Braid has a much higher inelastic stress rating that mono or flouro. I did some tests at the university lab. im a fish nerd

[carolina-rig-01]

Originally Posted by MississippiBoy

Never mind...this is thinking way too hard about something...

lmao......i guess some post will never die huh.

that is pretty interesting though. i am really disapointed that suffix was that low.

[MississippiBoy]

Yeah, that one's now a classic, Kory. It'll be around for ages.

But I'm not so sure about being disappointed in the Suffix and all the others in the lower range. If you'll notice, all the ones in the high end aren't the good ones. Spiderwire, Fireline, Stren SuperBraid...I've never tried any of them, but I've never seen anybody recommend them, either. Now I'm curious as to why not. Are they stiffer, more prone to backlashes, wear out quicker, etc?

Something maybe could be said for their quality just by looking at that information, and taking NoFear's statement into account. If the Fireline breaks at 55 lbs, ok, that's close to 3x its rated strength. Great! But what happens if you stress it to 40 lbs a couple times? Will it still break at 55, or just 30? Or will it just live up to its rating of 20? I guess what I'm getting at is this; take the PowerPro as an example...you can stress it to 85% of its breaking point and it's pretty much guaranteed to stay the same overall breaking strength. But with the Fireline, you're only "guaranteed" 36% of the breaking strength before it starts fraying or whatever to decrease its strength. After you get above the 20 lbs, who knows what'll happen?

I'm not sure I'm making any sense, or if what I'm talking about even matters if I am. It's just what popped into my head when I was reading NoFear's post.

[MallenManson]

The only thing clear as mud is the fact that Florida blows

[WTL]

I have always suspected this. I use a lot of 8 lb PP and while I have broken it before, I know for a fact it takes more than 8 pounds.

[Rebbasser]

Originally Posted by JB

I still say one of zookers hookset from hell will break braid at any rated tinsel strength lol

Considering he once caught a step ladder it wouldn't surprise me

[Paul_F]

This really makes me rethink and somewhat regret my recent purchase of a couple spools of Power pro... Does berkley hold its color better than the others? I have discovered that after a month some of my moss green power pro is losing it's color, Which actually irritates me quite a bit, Considering the cost of it.

[Gearhed]

Don't regret your power pro it is very good line. Same for suffix. As far as the color thing, it is stated on the package that it will lose its color with use, and to use a magic marker to recolor it, if you so choose. I don't worry about it, it's not like its even close to invisible.
If after a month, your only complaint is the color loss, thats not bad. Like it was stated, the favored braids by folks around here are the lower tensile strength lines. Just because the other lines will take more of a beating doesn't necessarily mean they fish better.

[BassinID]

Originally Posted by Paul_F

This really makes me rethink and somewhat regret my recent purchase of a couple spools of Power pro... Does berkley hold its color better than the others? I have discovered that after a month some of my moss green power pro is losing it's color, Which actually irritates me quite a bit, Considering the cost of it.

Don't regret your decision, Power pro is awesome, if you asked everyone on here what their favorite braid is I would bet 75% would say Power pro, 20% suffix and the rest would be strewn across the map.

[WTL]

Yes, one thing that chart doesnt address is line diamter which should correspond to higher tensile strength. I bet the lines that are rated highest are also the largest.

You shouldnt use the chart to determine which line is best. Steel cable would whip any of these lines if we were talking just strength.

[BassinID]

Also the highest few are not very round, and even flat when pulled against a surface in the case of fireline. Power pro is a 6 strand I believe, while spiderwire is a four and fireline is kinda like a one, but its fused which makes it behave a lot differently. The 6 strand lines are really round and I have experienced this with Power pro, it preforms really nicely and doesn't dig in very bad on the spool.

[ruasoonerfan2]

I love the Spiderwire moss green for my worm rods that I fish in nothing but heavy moss and brush, love the toughness and the power (I use 20lb size/50 lb break) and the line does fade in time but I use permanant marker to color first 10' of line.