Should this be my first boat??

bothomas · 07-19-07, 05:23 PM

In advance I appreciate all the help from you guys. I'm looking for my first boat and am interested in the following: 2001 Javelin venom 18, johnson 150 '01. new electronics( nothing special, but nice ), new TM minnkota 24 v 65#,very clean boat and trailer. Have not checked it out in person yet, may look at it next week. owner sounds like he has taken good care of it and had no problems. Does not mind a bit getting the engine checked and taking it out to the water, want's me to bring a couple of rods with me and we'll hit for a little bit. Asking 11,000 obo.

Any advice ????

weidner21 · 07-19-07, 06:59 PM

A guy that i fish with has the same boat but with a 115 johnson on it.I think its a pretty nice boat and rides pretty nice as well only thing he would like to have different is to have a 150 on it.....but besides that both he and I like the boat and i would recommend going with it.....weidner21

bothomas · 07-19-07, 07:10 PM

weidner21,
does the price sound in line to you?

weidner21 · 07-19-07, 08:39 PM

yea i think he paid around 10k for the 115 hp....but yea it sounds pretty close...but it never hurts to try to talk him down alittle bit...weidner21

bothomas · 07-19-07, 08:44 PM

yeah gotta try. .. If I pick it up I'll post some pics for everyone....

Bo

weidner21 · 07-19-07, 09:21 PM

Is the boat u are referring to the one on BBC website ?

http://www.bassboatcentral.com/Boats4sale4/Ezell3.jpg

bothomas · 07-19-07, 10:33 PM

yeah that's the one. The owner lives about 30 min. from me. talked to him a couple of days ago and seems like a nice guy. You know anything about the boat??

weidner21 · 07-20-07, 09:12 AM

No i dont know anything about that boat except for what it says........im also in the market of looking for a new boat so i cruse around on that website looking at the skeeters.....and all i know is it is identical to the boat on of the guys i fish with except he has a duel consol....but for a first boat it sounds like it would be great.....weidner21

FlyRod · 07-20-07, 11:39 AM

W-21,

This is the place to learn more about Javelins...no longer made, BTW, but excellent boats, from all accounts. They were sort of a second-line to Stratos and VERY popular in parts of the South.

http://bbcboards.zeroforum.com/zeroforum?id=45

It's likely that the "Juanson" (Press "1" for Eeengleesh) motor is either carbed or an EFI rather than a DFI, so it's gonna be a bit thirsty. Still, they ran like striped apes. One of my bassin' partners has an older J'son on a BassCat Pantera and it serves us well.
About the "nice guy"; NEVER bank on that. Another of my partners bought a lovely 21' Skeeter from a "nice guy" and said "nice guy" isn't to be found since major issues have arisen re the trailer. Which brings me to....
PLEASE, beside a thorough hull (there may be wood in there, especially in the transom and decks. ANY sign of transom flex, waterlogging or rot?...Run away!) and motor check, have a qualified person do a total checkup on the trailer, especially if it's a closed "tube" type frame. Rust is the threat. Pay close attention to the welds, bunks, brakes and lights as well.
Once it's yours, it's yours...and then it's too late.

Good luck, good fishing, and above all, be safe!

FR

bothomas · 07-20-07, 03:18 PM

flyrod,
you think there's a possibility that there is any wood in this boat? '01 I thought would have to be 100% composite.

FlyRod · 07-20-07, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bothomas

flyrod,
you think there's a possibility that there is any wood in this boat? '01 I thought would have to be 100% composite.

See that little linky I mistakenly addressed to W-21? Well, click there and ask away. I tend to agree with you but there STILL some boats being built with wood.
It won't hurt to ask the Javelin guys at that link.

FR

Basscrazie · 08-05-07, 09:57 PM

I had a 19'6 and it was all composite and rode real good.Im sure its all composite so no rot later.

1FASTLASER · 08-06-07, 08:13 PM

The later model Javelin's had no wood. That particular model is a pretty nice ride. They are surprisingly quick for what they are. The javelins where at one time the "poor mans" startos so to speak..........the thing about it was the javelins where out running the stratos boats. I used to LMAO when a stratos owner got po'd when this happened. Have the motor checked out by a reputable mechanic and demand a compression test. THAT TELLS ALL on the shape of the engine. Check the transom area and the nose of the boat for any damage. If all is well offer him 10 and see if he bites.

bothomas · 08-09-07, 09:40 PM

Thanks for the advice laser. check out the boat and everything was fine.....except the boat was a little smaller than i thought it would be.. ran like a boat out of hell tho.. never drove a boat before and got it to 60 on the speedo..

Looked at more boats and bought a 2000 javelin R-19 with a johnson175. love the boat, plenty of room to fish and goes faster than I'll know for the next little while. Also handles rough water great.. first time out was sunday after buying on sat and I already hate ski boats and jet ski's... we'll what do you expect when you wait till the middle of the afternoon to put in. I'll post some pics as soom as I quit playing with it. Thanks for all the help guys.. I'll be asking set up Q's soon!!!!

07-19-07, 05:23 PM	#1
bothomas BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Huntsville, Al. Posts: 220	Should this be my first boat?? In advance I appreciate all the help from you guys. I'm looking for my first boat and am interested in the following: 2001 Javelin venom 18, johnson 150 '01. new electronics( nothing special, but nice ), new TM minnkota 24 v 65#,very clean boat and trailer. Have not checked it out in person yet, may look at it next week. owner sounds like he has taken good care of it and had no problems. Does not mind a bit getting the engine checked and taking it out to the water, want's me to bring a couple of rods with me and we'll hit for a little bit. Asking 11,000 obo. Any advice ????

08-06-07, 08:13 PM	#13
1FASTLASER BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: crossett,arkansas Posts: 2,777	The later model Javelin's had no wood. That particular model is a pretty nice ride. They are surprisingly quick for what they are. The javelins where at one time the "poor mans" startos so to speak..........the thing about it was the javelins where out running the stratos boats. I used to LMAO when a stratos owner got po'd when this happened. Have the motor checked out by a reputable mechanic and demand a compression test. THAT TELLS ALL on the shape of the engine. Check the transom area and the nose of the boat for any damage. If all is well offer him 10 and see if he bites. __________________ Laser's rule with Merc's doing the pushing..........KEEP THE WETSIDE DOWN AND THE DRY SIDE UP!!!!!!

07-19-07, 06:59 PM	#2
weidner21 BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: wabash,In Posts: 63	A guy that i fish with has the same boat but with a 115 johnson on it.I think its a pretty nice boat and rides pretty nice as well only thing he would like to have different is to have a 150 on it.....but besides that both he and I like the boat and i would recommend going with it.....weidner21

07-19-07, 07:10 PM	#3
bothomas BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Huntsville, Al. Posts: 220	weidner21, does the price sound in line to you?

07-19-07, 08:39 PM	#4
weidner21 BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: wabash,In Posts: 63	yea i think he paid around 10k for the 115 hp....but yea it sounds pretty close...but it never hurts to try to talk him down alittle bit...weidner21

07-19-07, 08:44 PM	#5
bothomas BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Huntsville, Al. Posts: 220	yeah gotta try. .. If I pick it up I'll post some pics for everyone.... Bo

07-19-07, 09:21 PM	#6
weidner21 BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: wabash,In Posts: 63	Is the boat u are referring to the one on BBC website ? http://www.bassboatcentral.com/Boats4sale4/Ezell3.jpg

07-19-07, 10:33 PM	#7
bothomas BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Huntsville, Al. Posts: 220	yeah that's the one. The owner lives about 30 min. from me. talked to him a couple of days ago and seems like a nice guy. You know anything about the boat??

07-20-07, 09:12 AM	#8
weidner21 BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: wabash,In Posts: 63	No i dont know anything about that boat except for what it says........im also in the market of looking for a new boat so i cruse around on that website looking at the skeeters.....and all i know is it is identical to the boat on of the guys i fish with except he has a duel consol....but for a first boat it sounds like it would be great.....weidner21

07-20-07, 11:39 AM	#9
FlyRod BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,270	W-21, This is the place to learn more about Javelins...no longer made, BTW, but excellent boats, from all accounts. They were sort of a second-line to Stratos and VERY popular in parts of the South. http://bbcboards.zeroforum.com/zeroforum?id=45 It's likely that the "Juanson" (Press "1" for Eeengleesh) motor is either carbed or an EFI rather than a DFI, so it's gonna be a bit thirsty. Still, they ran like striped apes. One of my bassin' partners has an older J'son on a BassCat Pantera and it serves us well. About the "nice guy"; NEVER bank on that. Another of my partners bought a lovely 21' Skeeter from a "nice guy" and said "nice guy" isn't to be found since major issues have arisen re the trailer. Which brings me to.... PLEASE, beside a thorough hull (there may be wood in there, especially in the transom and decks. ANY sign of transom flex, waterlogging or rot?...Run away!) and motor check, have a qualified person do a total checkup on the trailer, especially if it's a closed "tube" type frame. Rust is the threat. Pay close attention to the welds, bunks, brakes and lights as well. Once it's yours, it's yours...and then it's too late. Good luck, good fishing, and above all, be safe! FR

07-20-07, 03:18 PM	#10
bothomas BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Huntsville, Al. Posts: 220	flyrod, you think there's a possibility that there is any wood in this boat? '01 I thought would have to be 100% composite.

08-05-07, 09:57 PM	#12
Basscrazie BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: magnolia,tx Posts: 398	I had a 19'6 and it was all composite and rode real good.Im sure its all composite so no rot later.

08-09-07, 09:40 PM	#14
bothomas BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Huntsville, Al. Posts: 220	Thanks for the advice laser. check out the boat and everything was fine.....except the boat was a little smaller than i thought it would be.. ran like a boat out of hell tho.. never drove a boat before and got it to 60 on the speedo.. Looked at more boats and bought a 2000 javelin R-19 with a johnson175. love the boat, plenty of room to fish and goes faster than I'll know for the next little while. Also handles rough water great.. first time out was sunday after buying on sat and I already hate ski boats and jet ski's... we'll what do you expect when you wait till the middle of the afternoon to put in. I'll post some pics as soom as I quit playing with it. Thanks for all the help guys.. I'll be asking set up Q's soon!!!!

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