Making a small pond

MrPhotographer06 · 04-10-07, 05:44 PM

my grandpa has a attempted pond

its only like 30ft by 10 ft.. and its holding 3 foot of water now.. as soon as the bottom seals. we are going to get it filled eventually.. and it has a drainage ditch that runs off of it.. its about 3 foot deep.. so when its totaly full.. it'll have a stream from the spring it'll be fed off of and a stream with a dam.

now.. we are going to try to put a few bass in it..
whats the best ammount for that size pond?

JB · 04-10-07, 06:16 PM

I've got a pretty big garden pond in my backyard and I'd recommend gold fish, or koi's for that size...its not fair to keep bass in that size pond without natural forage

Raul · 04-10-07, 06:35 PM

1 bass per every 30 square feet so that aquarium can hold 10 fish at the most.

K-Driz · 04-10-07, 10:29 PM

Your pond should have been sealed before filling it with water. They'll leak forever if not sealed properly. Here's something from the KDFWR Website on pond building:
"LEAKS

If the leak is on the bottom of the pond, drain it, bring in and pack at least 12 inches of clay (possibly mixed with Bentonite) with a "sheep’s foot" roller. If the leak is in the dam, dig it out and repack with clay or you can try having a commercial grouting procedure done.

Slow reduction of water level due to evaporation is normal, but rapid water level loss down to a certain point is a sign of a leak. Prolonged leakage is usually evident by wet or seep areas somewhere below the dam. These usually have cattails, rushes or black willows growing in them.

Tips: Drought conditions can cause cracking, leakage and pond water levels to drop drastically. During pond construction, make sure the builder ties the clay core of the dam well into each bank. Bentonite should be mixed with dry soil to get best results; dumping Bentonite in the water in the area of the leak will probably not cure most leaks. To prevent future leaks, do not plant trees or allow trees to grow on the dam."

Rebbasser · 04-11-07, 07:56 PM

I'd check with your state DNR, Wildlife Fisheries dept, or whoever handles that type thing and get their recommendation.

betursweetbass · 04-12-07, 09:43 AM

Yeah, I'm with JB on this one as well, start off with some tame yet yummy fish for now like the Talapia or something, mixed with other small fish. Check with the officials for their input and then, over time, if your pond will support them, add a few bass afterwards, but not over a dozen or so to start.

bassintxlady · 04-12-07, 11:41 AM

i know you didn't say "YUMMY".....

MrPhotographer06 · 04-16-07, 07:18 AM

alrighty.. thanks

haha..

yummy fish?

we used to keep a bream that was 3 years old in a 10 gallon fish tank at school. lol Mrs. McCutchen finnaly got rid of him because she didnt like the way it depreciated the look of the art room.. all the bright colors.. then BAM a big green mossy tank.....

RyDogg · 05-24-07, 12:26 AM

Another thing to watch out for is with a pond that shallow and small, you can expect bass to get picked off by birds of prey.

FlyRod · 05-24-07, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebbasser

I'd check with your state DNR, Wildlife Fisheries dept, or whoever handles that type thing and get their recommendation.

I'll second that AND what JB said. If it's that shallow, no shade and no deep water will be cruel indeed. Besides, even SC gets COLD and they likely will NOT survive the winter.
Also, if SC is as infested with Cormorants AKA Anhinga AKA Water Turkey as some parts of other Southern States (The former CSA), the bass will be easy targets.
Fuggidaboudit!

Try stocking it with lawyers. NOBODY cares what happens to them.

FR

flbassman · 05-24-07, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyRod

Try stocking it with lawyers. NOBODY cares what happens to them.

FR

Thats not true. I'm sure that........wait never mind. Yeah, I guess you're right

the pond guy · 05-24-07, 01:29 PM

talk to your DNR and ask for their suggestion

WTL · 05-24-07, 04:41 PM

Isn't that a glorified water garden. Are you actually going to try and fish it?

If so, bass might not be the right fit. Well, you could put a few in there, assuming its deeper than 3 ft when it gets full (your post was not clear how deep it would be, only that it was currently 3 feet). But it wont be a sustainable population.

Bream might work better though. That or crappie. First add the forage, and then the game fish that you choose. Otherwise there will never be a stable enough forage base. But again, this is really small, and might not work for some of the reasons others have highlighted.

04-10-07, 05:44 PM	#1
MrPhotographer06 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fort Bragg, NC Posts: 2,096	Making a small pond my grandpa has a attempted pond its only like 30ft by 10 ft.. and its holding 3 foot of water now.. as soon as the bottom seals. we are going to get it filled eventually.. and it has a drainage ditch that runs off of it.. its about 3 foot deep.. so when its totaly full.. it'll have a stream from the spring it'll be fed off of and a stream with a dam. now.. we are going to try to put a few bass in it.. whats the best ammount for that size pond?

04-11-07, 07:56 PM	#5
Rebbasser BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 10,141	I'd check with your state DNR, Wildlife Fisheries dept, or whoever handles that type thing and get their recommendation. __________________ It's happened to the best of them: John 21:3

04-12-07, 11:41 AM	#7
bassintxlady BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cypress,Texas Posts: 780	i know you didn't say "YUMMY"..... __________________ :) OH YEAH!!!!! SHUT UP AND FISH!!!!!

05-24-07, 12:26 AM	#9
RyDogg BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: san jose, CA Posts: 112	Another thing to watch out for is with a pond that shallow and small, you can expect bass to get picked off by birds of prey. __________________ - RYDOGG -

05-24-07, 04:41 PM	#13
WTL BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntsville, Al Posts: 7,466	Isn't that a glorified water garden. Are you actually going to try and fish it? If so, bass might not be the right fit. Well, you could put a few in there, assuming its deeper than 3 ft when it gets full (your post was not clear how deep it would be, only that it was currently 3 feet). But it wont be a sustainable population. Bream might work better though. That or crappie. First add the forage, and then the game fish that you choose. Otherwise there will never be a stable enough forage base. But again, this is really small, and might not work for some of the reasons others have highlighted. __________________ Selling live waterdogs for less since 2005.

04-10-07, 06:16 PM	#2
JB BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,655	I've got a pretty big garden pond in my backyard and I'd recommend gold fish, or koi's for that size...its not fair to keep bass in that size pond without natural forage

04-10-07, 06:35 PM	#3
Raul BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,030	1 bass per every 30 square feet so that aquarium can hold 10 fish at the most.

04-10-07, 10:29 PM	#4
K-Driz BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Murray or Smithfield, KY Posts: 209	Your pond should have been sealed before filling it with water. They'll leak forever if not sealed properly. Here's something from the KDFWR Website on pond building: "LEAKS If the leak is on the bottom of the pond, drain it, bring in and pack at least 12 inches of clay (possibly mixed with Bentonite) with a "sheep’s foot" roller. If the leak is in the dam, dig it out and repack with clay or you can try having a commercial grouting procedure done. Slow reduction of water level due to evaporation is normal, but rapid water level loss down to a certain point is a sign of a leak. Prolonged leakage is usually evident by wet or seep areas somewhere below the dam. These usually have cattails, rushes or black willows growing in them. Tips: Drought conditions can cause cracking, leakage and pond water levels to drop drastically. During pond construction, make sure the builder ties the clay core of the dam well into each bank. Bentonite should be mixed with dry soil to get best results; dumping Bentonite in the water in the area of the leak will probably not cure most leaks. To prevent future leaks, do not plant trees or allow trees to grow on the dam."

04-12-07, 09:43 AM	#6
betursweetbass BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 646	Yeah, I'm with JB on this one as well, start off with some tame yet yummy fish for now like the Talapia or something, mixed with other small fish. Check with the officials for their input and then, over time, if your pond will support them, add a few bass afterwards, but not over a dozen or so to start.

04-16-07, 07:18 AM	#8
MrPhotographer06 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fort Bragg, NC Posts: 2,096	alrighty.. thanks haha.. yummy fish? we used to keep a bream that was 3 years old in a 10 gallon fish tank at school. lol Mrs. McCutchen finnaly got rid of him because she didnt like the way it depreciated the look of the art room.. all the bright colors.. then BAM a big green mossy tank.....

05-24-07, 01:29 PM	#12
the pond guy BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 26	talk to your DNR and ask for their suggestion

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