Choose only one lure for this newbie....

ColoradoNative · 08-01-07, 11:10 AM

So after fishing for about three hours last night, don't have much to write home about, except that I allowed my two year old to fall out of the boat.

Caught a lot of tiny fish (under 6 inches at best) and played with a lot of stuff in my box, but now I want to concentrate on two or three the next few weeks.

So my question to you all, is if you could recommend one lure, what would it be and how do you recommend using it? I need a recommendation for both shore and boat fishing (I do the former more than the latter).

I have a whole box of just about everything (I think I have sunk $400+ into my box alone the past 6 weeks), so I am free game to learn how to catch something bigger than baitfish.

everettvet · 08-01-07, 05:42 PM

Please tell me some more information:

What do you have in your box? I would think that $400 could buy a fair amount of tackle. Unless it is all Lucky Craft lures.

What kind of water are you fishing? Ponds, lakes, rivers? How deep is the water? What kind of structure or cover is around?

With this group, I expect you to learn a lot. I know I have!

zooker · 08-01-07, 05:42 PM

a texas rigged worm.. or a spinnerbait..not to be confused with the in-line spinner..

i am not going to mention just how much money i got tied up in tackle. but it is easily in 6 digit range..

zooker

JB · 08-01-07, 05:55 PM

dead stick a senko in watermelon redflake, if the fish are that negative a slow approach could get ya a bite. You fishing a lake or pond or river?

bassfisher02 · 08-01-07, 06:07 PM

Hands down a bait that will catch fish almost anywhere you can think to fish it, the stik bait. I like to use 5" Tiki Stiks in sweet potato pie texas rigged [weighted or not]. Now many also swear by the Senko, I personally prefur Tiki Stik because they hold up better than the Senko and are a bit cheaper. But either way its up to you, and that soft plastic will catch fish almost everytime, anywhere!

ColoradoNative · 08-01-07, 06:32 PM

Guess I should have mentioned the water...

Mostly ponds, lakes and reservoirs. Everything from rocks to sand to weeds. Not much structure unless there happens to be a cliff/cutout, some downed trees (no tree roots like I have seen in the south) or rock piles.

I have spinner bait, inline spinners of all sorts (bells, rooster tails, etc.), lipped & no lip crankbaits, stick o something or other, mister twisters, bobbers, weights, hooks of all sorts....does that help??

bassfisher02 · 08-01-07, 06:39 PM

Probably could do without the bobbers, atleast for artificial fishing.

Anyways my reply still stands, go out and buy Wave Worm 5" Tiki Stiks or Gary Yammamoto Senkos. Either/or, they catch fish, plain and simple.

Rebbasser · 08-01-07, 07:04 PM

CN, If I had to choose one of the ones you mention I'd get that bag of Sticko-Os and try them rigged either as a weightless T(Texas)-rig or a wacky rig. If you don't know how to rig them in the "New to Fishing" section they are stickied at the top. Throw them in and around the cover you find and work them with gentle twitches of the rod tip. This time of year they can really prodouce a lot of bites.

lizardsrule · 08-01-07, 07:39 PM

Well I would first off ask if you have patience or not. If you don't have much patience, then I would reccomend a spinnerbait, because it's cast and retrieve, constant action. If you have patience, then the stickbiat of some type would be good or any plastic, maybe even a lizard or fluke.

Lizards

hackattack · 08-01-07, 08:10 PM

stickbaaaaaaaaaaaaaait

ColoradoNative · 08-01-07, 10:36 PM

Zooker - maybe a stupid question, but I don't know if I am using my spinner bait correctly. I called my dad and he said to use a barrel swivel, which I did, but I wasn't sure exactly where to clip it and whether or not this is the best way. Didn't seem to be moving the right way.

keithdog · 08-01-07, 10:52 PM

Colorado, the swivel your dad recommends is for using with in line spinners like Mepps and Rooster Tail spinners. Swiveles are used with these baits to prevent line twist which they are prone to produce. The spinnerbait Zook is talkin about is the safety pin style spinnerbait. The body of the lure runs below the spinning blades. With this type of lure, you tie your line dirrectly to the lure as there is no worry about line twist. In fact, with a swivel used on spinnerbaits, the swivel can slide up and down the main wire causing the lure to fail to work properly. As for my choice of only one lure, it would be the spinnerbait. You can cover water fairly quickly and even produce in water with very little visability. You can also produce reaction strikes with a spinnerbait. It can be worked in open water and in water with lots of brush, grass, lilly pads, rocks, and so on. It can be worked fast as a surface buzz bait, or slow in deeper water, and anywhere in between. Also, the spinnerbait will catch bass at all times of the year, cold water or warm. I always use a trailer with mine. Preferably a twister grub between 3 and 4 inches in length.

ColoradoNative · 08-01-07, 11:51 PM

keith that makes sense, thank you and I am glad to know that what I knew as a spinnerbait and what you described were the same!

Just to make sure I am clear - am I tying onto the end of the wire or to the middle loop about half way down the wire?

Finally, how do you hook a trailer on a spinner? T-rig or other way?

Thanks again for everyones help! I am debating getting up and heading out tomorrow morning before work....it's raining now, so might be good since I seem to see more the morning after a good rain when it stirs everything up.

Rebbasser · 08-01-07, 11:58 PM

CN, if you hold the hook of the spinnerbait in your left hand with the blades on the right the wire is R shaped. Tie in the round part of the R, which is about halfway between the head and the blades.

bassfisher02 · 08-02-07, 12:34 AM

CN, the trailer CAN be t-rigged, yet most do not, just thread the soft plastic onto the hook, like so:

Thats your basic spinnerbait, with only one blade. You can see where the line ties to the spinnerbait.

Here are a few more examples:

As you may notice, a trailer isnt always nessacery. Sometimes the skirt is good enough.

Bender · 08-02-07, 12:59 AM

I will add to the Senko group. Put a hook in it how you like, throw it our there, let it sit for 30 seconds (seems like forever), then drag it back in(I twitch them when wacky rigged). Cast to the next spot and repeat.

FlyRod · 08-02-07, 03:58 AM

Chartreuse hand grenade!

Pull pin, throw well away from boat...wait...collect dinner...depart in haste.

FR

keithdog · 08-02-07, 08:08 PM

Now THATS an idea FlyRod. Collect your fillets and head home, lol

bassfisher02 · 08-02-07, 08:10 PM

My uncle used to have a contraption rigged to his dock where all he did was flip a switch and a high voltage of electricity would find the water rather quickly, he would then collect the fish and repeat when nessacery. I kid you not.

1FASTLASER · 08-02-07, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyRod

Chartreuse hand grenade!

Pull pin, throw well away from boat...wait...collect dinner...depart in haste.

FR

ROTFFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Basscrazie · 08-02-07, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zooker

a texas rigged worm.. or a spinnerbait..not to be confused with the in-line spinner..

i am not going to mention just how much money i got tied up in tackle. but it is easily in 6 digit range..

zooker

I agree with Zooker.

brushhog · 08-02-07, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassfisher02

My uncle used to have a contraption rigged to his dock where all he did was flip a switch and a high voltage of electricity would find the water rather quickly, he would then collect the fish and repeat when nessacery. I kid you not.

Now that is funny!

Something plastic texas rigged weightless, Watermelon or Smoked Shad with some pretty sparkly flakes!

Rebbasser · 08-03-07, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyRod

Chartreuse hand grenade!

Pull pin, throw well away from boat...wait...collect dinner...depart in haste.

FR

Just make dang sure it blows AWAY from the boat. Ever see what a chartruse grenade can do to a white boat?

zooker · 08-03-07, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColoradoNative

Zooker - maybe a stupid question, but I don't know if I am using my spinner bait correctly. I called my dad and he said to use a barrel swivel, which I did, but I wasn't sure exactly where to clip it and whether or not this is the best way. Didn't seem to be moving the right way.

-why is it i always get the spinnerbait questions??-

now in-line spinners will twist up fishin line but ugly and real fast.this reason is why you use a snap swivels on them..

this is a standard "safty pin" style spinner bait..

please note THIS is what we refure to in most of the refurances to spinnerbaits..

you tie your line DIRECTLY to the wire in the "R" bend.-tom will disagree with me here-

now tuning:
to tune the spinner bait such as above. hold the bait by the head -thats the heavy part-the blades up.. the arm that holds the blades should be in line with the hook point.. now if the blade is barrle rollin thru the water. you must alievate the problem by over tuning to the LEFT..they almost always roll to the right..

zooker

WallStreetAmigo · 08-06-07, 02:08 AM

4 or 5 inch Senkos and the like rigged wacky style have netted me some decent fish this year and have salvaged many a fishing trip. I caught eight 2 to 4 pounders the other day on nothing but a watermelon senko rigged wacky style. If you cast it out and let it sink on a semi-slack line, you will catch much more than baitfish. Having said that, I also caught a sunfish that was only two and a half inches long on the same rig.....the senko was bigger than the sunfish! Rig one up and watch the way it acts in the water.....bass can't let it pass by.

08-01-07, 11:10 AM	#1
ColoradoNative BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 17	Choose only one lure for this newbie.... So after fishing for about three hours last night, don't have much to write home about, except that I allowed my two year old to fall out of the boat. Caught a lot of tiny fish (under 6 inches at best) and played with a lot of stuff in my box, but now I want to concentrate on two or three the next few weeks. So my question to you all, is if you could recommend one lure, what would it be and how do you recommend using it? I need a recommendation for both shore and boat fishing (I do the former more than the latter). I have a whole box of just about everything (I think I have sunk $400+ into my box alone the past 6 weeks), so I am free game to learn how to catch something bigger than baitfish.

08-01-07, 05:42 PM	#3
zooker BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: denton nc Posts: 13,441	a texas rigged worm.. or a spinnerbait..not to be confused with the in-line spinner.. i am not going to mention just how much money i got tied up in tackle. but it is easily in 6 digit range.. zooker __________________ the godfather.. aml in remission since 7-20-09

08-01-07, 06:07 PM	#5
bassfisher02 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 4,765	Hands down a bait that will catch fish almost anywhere you can think to fish it, the stik bait. I like to use 5" Tiki Stiks in sweet potato pie texas rigged [weighted or not]. Now many also swear by the Senko, I personally prefur Tiki Stik because they hold up better than the Senko and are a bit cheaper. But either way its up to you, and that soft plastic will catch fish almost everytime, anywhere! __________________ Good Fishin'

08-01-07, 06:39 PM	#7
bassfisher02 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 4,765	Probably could do without the bobbers, atleast for artificial fishing. Anyways my reply still stands, go out and buy Wave Worm 5" Tiki Stiks or Gary Yammamoto Senkos. Either/or, they catch fish, plain and simple. __________________ Good Fishin'

08-01-07, 07:04 PM	#8
Rebbasser BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 10,141	CN, If I had to choose one of the ones you mention I'd get that bag of Sticko-Os and try them rigged either as a weightless T(Texas)-rig or a wacky rig. If you don't know how to rig them in the "New to Fishing" section they are stickied at the top. Throw them in and around the cover you find and work them with gentle twitches of the rod tip. This time of year they can really prodouce a lot of bites. __________________ It's happened to the best of them: John 21:3

08-01-07, 05:42 PM	#2
everettvet BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Paducah, KY Posts: 730	Please tell me some more information: What do you have in your box? I would think that $400 could buy a fair amount of tackle. Unless it is all Lucky Craft lures. What kind of water are you fishing? Ponds, lakes, rivers? How deep is the water? What kind of structure or cover is around? With this group, I expect you to learn a lot. I know I have!

08-01-07, 05:55 PM	#4
JB BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,655	dead stick a senko in watermelon redflake, if the fish are that negative a slow approach could get ya a bite. You fishing a lake or pond or river?

08-01-07, 06:32 PM	#6
ColoradoNative BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 17	Guess I should have mentioned the water... Mostly ponds, lakes and reservoirs. Everything from rocks to sand to weeds. Not much structure unless there happens to be a cliff/cutout, some downed trees (no tree roots like I have seen in the south) or rock piles. I have spinner bait, inline spinners of all sorts (bells, rooster tails, etc.), lipped & no lip crankbaits, stick o something or other, mister twisters, bobbers, weights, hooks of all sorts....does that help??

08-01-07, 07:39 PM	#9
lizardsrule BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saint Augustine, FL Posts: 7,374	Well I would first off ask if you have patience or not. If you don't have much patience, then I would reccomend a spinnerbait, because it's cast and retrieve, constant action. If you have patience, then the stickbiat of some type would be good or any plastic, maybe even a lizard or fluke. Lizards __________________ There are three types of Snakes I hate 1. Live Snakes 2. Dead Snakes 3. Sticks that look like Snakes. And Gators too!

08-01-07, 08:10 PM	#10
hackattack BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tigard, Oregon Posts: 358	stickbaaaaaaaaaaaaaait

08-01-07, 10:36 PM	#11
ColoradoNative BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 17	Zooker - maybe a stupid question, but I don't know if I am using my spinner bait correctly. I called my dad and he said to use a barrel swivel, which I did, but I wasn't sure exactly where to clip it and whether or not this is the best way. Didn't seem to be moving the right way.

08-01-07, 10:52 PM	#12
keithdog BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: IN Posts: 8,308	Colorado, the swivel your dad recommends is for using with in line spinners like Mepps and Rooster Tail spinners. Swiveles are used with these baits to prevent line twist which they are prone to produce. The spinnerbait Zook is talkin about is the safety pin style spinnerbait. The body of the lure runs below the spinning blades. With this type of lure, you tie your line dirrectly to the lure as there is no worry about line twist. In fact, with a swivel used on spinnerbaits, the swivel can slide up and down the main wire causing the lure to fail to work properly. As for my choice of only one lure, it would be the spinnerbait. You can cover water fairly quickly and even produce in water with very little visability. You can also produce reaction strikes with a spinnerbait. It can be worked in open water and in water with lots of brush, grass, lilly pads, rocks, and so on. It can be worked fast as a surface buzz bait, or slow in deeper water, and anywhere in between. Also, the spinnerbait will catch bass at all times of the year, cold water or warm. I always use a trailer with mine. Preferably a twister grub between 3 and 4 inches in length.

08-01-07, 11:51 PM	#13
ColoradoNative BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 17	keith that makes sense, thank you and I am glad to know that what I knew as a spinnerbait and what you described were the same! Just to make sure I am clear - am I tying onto the end of the wire or to the middle loop about half way down the wire? Finally, how do you hook a trailer on a spinner? T-rig or other way? Thanks again for everyones help! I am debating getting up and heading out tomorrow morning before work....it's raining now, so might be good since I seem to see more the morning after a good rain when it stirs everything up.

08-01-07, 11:58 PM	#14
Rebbasser BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 10,141	CN, if you hold the hook of the spinnerbait in your left hand with the blades on the right the wire is R shaped. Tie in the round part of the R, which is about halfway between the head and the blades. __________________ It's happened to the best of them: John 21:3

08-02-07, 12:34 AM	#15
bassfisher02 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 4,765	CN, the trailer CAN be t-rigged, yet most do not, just thread the soft plastic onto the hook, like so: Thats your basic spinnerbait, with only one blade. You can see where the line ties to the spinnerbait. Here are a few more examples: As you may notice, a trailer isnt always nessacery. Sometimes the skirt is good enough. __________________ Good Fishin'

08-02-07, 12:59 AM	#16
Bender BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brighton, MI Posts: 2,414	I will add to the Senko group. Put a hook in it how you like, throw it our there, let it sit for 30 seconds (seems like forever), then drag it back in(I twitch them when wacky rigged). Cast to the next spot and repeat.

08-02-07, 03:58 AM	#17
FlyRod BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,270	Chartreuse hand grenade! Pull pin, throw well away from boat...wait...collect dinner...depart in haste. FR

08-02-07, 08:08 PM	#18
keithdog BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: IN Posts: 8,308	Now THATS an idea FlyRod. Collect your fillets and head home, lol

08-02-07, 08:10 PM	#19
bassfisher02 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 4,765	My uncle used to have a contraption rigged to his dock where all he did was flip a switch and a high voltage of electricity would find the water rather quickly, he would then collect the fish and repeat when nessacery. I kid you not. __________________ Good Fishin'

08-06-07, 02:08 AM	#25
WallStreetAmigo BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 325	4 or 5 inch Senkos and the like rigged wacky style have netted me some decent fish this year and have salvaged many a fishing trip. I caught eight 2 to 4 pounders the other day on nothing but a watermelon senko rigged wacky style. If you cast it out and let it sink on a semi-slack line, you will catch much more than baitfish. Having said that, I also caught a sunfish that was only two and a half inches long on the same rig.....the senko was bigger than the sunfish! Rig one up and watch the way it acts in the water.....bass can't let it pass by.

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