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Old 03-31-09, 12:06 AM   #1
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Default Obama Signs Largest Wilderness Bill in Decades

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama signed legislation Monday setting aside more than 2 million acres in nine states as protected wilderness....

Environmental groups and lawmakers in both parties said the law will strengthen the national park system, restore national forests, preserve wild and scenic rivers, protect battlefields and restore balance to the management of public lands....

The depth of support for this law by people from all walks of life, as well as the size, scope and diversity of the lands protected, are a clear indication Americans recognize that our wild lands must and do serve many purposes — not the least of which is as a place to hunt, fish, hike, camp, watch birds and just find solitude....

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Recovered from lead poisoning yet?

Nice of you to promote that bastard.
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Old 03-31-09, 01:49 AM   #3
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yeah obama isn't very popular around here, and for a good reason too.


welcome to the site though.
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Old 03-31-09, 08:52 AM   #4
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Recovered from lead poisoning yet?

Nice of you to promote that bastard.

I thought it was proven that the lead ban was from a leftover bush official?
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Old 03-31-09, 09:03 AM   #5
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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama signed legislation Monday setting aside more than 2 million acres in nine states as protected wilderness....

Environmental groups and lawmakers in both parties said the law will strengthen the national park system, restore national forests, preserve wild and scenic rivers, protect battlefields and restore balance to the management of public lands....

The depth of support for this law by people from all walks of life, as well as the size, scope and diversity of the lands protected, are a clear indication Americans recognize that our wild lands must and do serve many purposes — not the least of which is as a place to hunt, fish, hike, camp, watch birds and just find solitude....

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Full text of law here.


Before you send Stew here to the snake pits give him a chance I think he was only trying to make people aware of the bill not aware of our wanna be famous telapromter toting President who thinks he's a movie star
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Old 03-31-09, 09:42 AM   #6
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I thought it was proven that the lead ban was from a leftover bush official?
Yes! It was!

man I hate it when politics is dragged into forums, friendships die, people get banned.....
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Old 03-31-09, 09:45 AM   #7
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Recovered from lead poisoning yet?

Nice of you to promote that bastard.
WTL, you're my bud and all, but, show some respect for the president!
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Old 03-31-09, 09:56 AM   #8
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Bassboss....
You can very easily show patriotism without supporting the president. They are not inclusive of one another.
Being patriotic is to be the country first, not an individual.

I am not supporting nor condemning the president, but just want to point out that this does not diminish the level of patriotism for WTL.
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Bassboss....
You can very easily show patriotism without supporting the president. They are not inclusive of one another.
Being patriotic is to be the country first, not an individual.

I am not supporting nor condemning the president, but just want to point out that this does not diminish the level of patriotism for WTL.
Thanks cass, you're right....... look back at the post again, I edited it.
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Old 03-31-09, 10:43 AM   #10
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Socialism at it's finest. Here the Joke that the Goverment will back all GM warranties. Hey the us goverment is in the bank businiess. Why not cars. Next Health care!!! Sounds like socialism to me. I'm just waiting for another 3 yrs. Don't blame me i voted for Ron Paul.
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[quote=Lilmoosecountry;238766]Socialism Hey the us goverment is in the bank businiess.quote]


I'm in the bank buisness, and dont know how the investment bankers could/can sleep at night knowing what they have done to the state of the economy. I unlike the past and current administration do not believe in the bailouts at all, republicans and democratic officials do. Democrats now, republicans backed the bailouts when bush was in office.

If the goverment is going to give them bailout money, they should have some say in the company. Or else you end up with the bush bailout, where near a trillion dollars was spent with 0 accountability, then we find out about the million dollar bonuses.

I still dont understand how we can reward someone for a job unwell done.

At this point I say we fire republicans and democrats they both just SUCK!
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You can very easily show patriotism without supporting the president.
Especially when President Zero and his fellow America-haters; Pelosi, Clinton(s), Reid, Waters, "Turban" Durbin, are themselves ANYTHING but patriots. A painful pox upon them all, including the Hollywood libs and that trio of evils on MSNBC: Rabid Olberman, Smarmy Matthews, and Rachel Maddow, the Tranny Dyke.
We may never recover from this era of socialist infection.

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man dont say republicans backed that first bill.... its a free economy but we "cant take that risk" or in politicain talk "they payin us to pay them"....... love the idea of new national parks but not the crap about no lead when fishin there..... thats BS..... tungsten is way too much $$$$$$
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People are still going to use lead, I will, If i see a game warden I'm cutting the line, it really doesn't have any effect
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F the president.
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People are still going to use lead, I will, If i see a game warden I'm cutting the line, it really doesn't have any effect
Edited for something not right about this kid
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Doc, I didn't argue when they pointed out that the lead ban was from a leftover bush official. I argued with stew about how much damage lead caused, and after I and others showed the lead worry to be foolish he disappeared then came back only to post this propaganda about Obama supposedly doing something everyone agreed on. Everyone does not.
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Opponents, mostly Republicans, have called the legislation a "land grab" that would block energy development on vast swaths of federal land.
Not to say I have a problem with land being protected, but I do have a very big problem with officials in Washington telling people in the heartland what they can do on their land. I have a huge problem with the disintegration of federalism in this country. I feel as if Obama doesn't govern according to any standard of law (the environmental stuff we are arguing about are the smallest examples of this, I am more worked up about other things), but rather he rules according to his whims like a fascist thug. And it was the same for George W Bush. We have lost control of the country, so please forgive me if I don't salute our dear f&%*% leader.

He is a charlatan leading this county into an abyss. That isnt melodrama, we have finally gotten to the end of the road. You can only abuse a country, a system of government, an economy, a people so long until it implodes. We have been abusing for years, and now it is clear how bad things will get and obama instead of using it to enact reforms is using it to grab power for his own ego.

Bassboss, my patriotism only extends to a free system of government and not to lines on a map, descendants of a free people or an imperial power in washington. I do not have any undue feelings of warmth, kinship or common ground with puppets who subvert the very system I am loyal to.
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I'm all for extending the National Parks but it's a double edged sword IMO.
It's another blindsided attempt to stop any exploration of viable resources this country needs. and............
Once the Stimulous takes effect- we will need all that extra land for all the Leaf Rakers on the Government Payroll.
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Thinly veiled law to stop domestic oil, gas and coal exploration. It will indeed remain pristine when none of us can afford the fuel to get us there.
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Thinly veiled law to stop domestic oil, gas and coal exploration. It will indeed remain pristine when none of us can afford the fuel to get us there.
I'm not sure it is in all cases, some probably, but not all.

I think the method of doing it is wrong, and that is my main deal. I like parks. I like protected land. Its a good thing but only when done the right way.

But why hadnt the states protected these lands?

I think this country would be so much better off if we had 50 states. And in each state, the powers not delagated the Federal govt are reserved to the states. And then, you have each state become a laboratory for policy.

California could then indulge themselves in anti-lead laws, govt healthcare, tax rates that they find proper and gun control. If you like those things, then you can move to cali.

And Alabama could have our guns, low taxes, football supremacy, fair labor laws that allow good jobs to actually exist. If you like all that, you can move to Alabama.

People in Bama wouldnt tell people in Cali how to live and vise versa.


Is that not better than 1 size fits all government from above? Serious question, what do you think?
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Dang it man you just made somebodies top secret government list of people that said the wrong sh*t , btw completely agree with ya

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Dang it again that prob put me on the list
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Dang it man you just made somebodies top secret government list of people that said the wrong sh*t , btw completely agree with ya

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Dang it again that prob put me on the list
I already was listed as a potential terrorist. I have Ron Paul stickers on my truck, own a gun, have a navy jack and confederate flag and frequently reference the US Constitution. Yep, I'm a threat. (if you didnt hear a recent missouri police report said that people with the above characteristics were "potential domestic terrorists")
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on a side note they are starting to call obama super president because no matter what he does his approval rating stays high f***ed up huh ?


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Hopefully someone will wake up soon and figure this mess out and at this point it is gonna take more than individual state legislation to fix all the crap going wrong , the one size fits all government ain't gonna go away without a fight and their side has been throwing blows left and right somebody just needs to swing back .


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