Different oils for different reels

[Crankbait]

You know there are some many different oils and grease and when people ask what is the best lube for your reel don’t you have to take into consideration how they use their reel. I When I was working on reels I would always ask the angler how they fish and how much attention are they willing to pay to their reel. Me I love a slick reel and being able to heave that crank bait! But I always had a little bottle of out Xtreme reel+ and had no problem reaching for a bottle. I also put a four digit number on the bottom foot and don’t have a problem checking when the last time I oiled and what oil was used (a little nerdy I know) I also am a fanatic about cleaning and flushing my bearings and do this more probably than most……But every angler is different. As much as I love Oust and Xtreme oil if the angler doesn’t want to oil his reels more frequently than if using brand A you have to take that into consideration. This is also why I stress labeling your reels because if you don’t pick up all your reels every time you’re on the water than maybe you just use the super slick oil on your reels you most commonly use. What do you guys think?

[kennethdaysale]

I usually have a guy at a local tackle shop detail my reels, but I remember he once told me he uses an oil designed for firearms? Does that make sense? I guess so..I trust him and my stuff works good. I have tried Hot Sauce(not Tabasco) and that seemed OK.

[DVT Mike]

More important than brand is to use lubes in an appropriate application for that lube and to apply it to clean parts. You can also use oils of different viscosities to fine tune spool speed. In general a lower vicosity oil will allow more free spool but will not last as long. I'm currently using Boca's Bearing Soak treatment followed by a light high speed oil. This seems to improve performance while not requiring constant re-oiling. In other cases I lube a freshly flushed bearing with Yellow Rocket fuel. A needle oiler helps keep you from over oiling bearings. I like Super Lube synthetic grease for gears and Reel-x for sliding parts such as the clutch. A few drops of gear oil on the worm gear is a good compromise between light oil and grease.

The most important thing to remember is to not slap new lube on dirty parts and to avoid mixing brands since there is a slight chance of incompatability.

[Crankbait]

Originally Posted by DVT Mike

More important than brand is to use lubes in an appropriate application for that lube and to apply it to clean parts. You can also use oils of different viscosities to fine tune spool speed. In general a lower vicosity oil will allow more free spool but will not last as long. I'm currently using Boca's Bearing Soak treatment followed by a light high speed oil. This seems to improve performance while not requiring constant re-oiling. In other cases I lube a freshly flushed bearing with Yellow Rocket fuel. A needle oiler helps keep you from over oiling bearings. I like Super Lube synthetic grease for gears and Reel-x for sliding parts such as the clutch. A few drops of gear oil on the worm gear is a good compromise between light oil and grease.

The most important thing to remember is to not slap new lube on dirty parts and to avoid mixing brands since there is a slight chance of incompatability.

Hey DVT whats Boca's Bearing Soak treatment ?

[DVT Mike]

According to claims, bathing clean, dry bearings in this product lets it bond and seal microscopic pits and pores in the roller balls. Having worked in the oil industry I'm skeptical of claims of one material bonding to another without heat/ high pressure etc. but in my early trials it seems to be working.

[Crankbait]

Originally Posted by DVT Mike

According to claims, bathing clean, dry bearings in this product lets it bond and seal microscopic pits and pores in the roller balls. Having worked in the oil industry I'm skeptical of claims of one material bonding to another without heat/ high pressure etc. but in my early trials it seems to be working.

is this Bocas UDL Dry Lube (Ultra Dry Lightning Lube ?

[DVT Mike]

No, the UDL is a tungsten disulfied treatment that costs $15/bearing. This needs to be applied using pressure. The only reel application where a dry lube might be an advantage would be on the levelwind so dirt won't stick and collect there. Even at that any reasonable maitenance routine is probably sufficient.

[OkobojiEagle]

Mike... You mention using a needle oiler, I've been looking for a couple. Can you direct me to a site where I can buy them? Thanks

oe

[Tavery5]

Try this link, we use them allot in slot car racing.

http://www.shopatron.com/products/pr...5.0.0.0?pp=12&

[DVT Mike]

same general idea, a little cheaper: http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...rce=google_ext . R/C and music instrument supply places are likely to have them.

[OkobojiEagle]

Thanks guys. Bottles orders.

oe

[OkobojiEagle]

I've been using Yellow Rocket Fuel, Rem Oil and Berkley's reel oil interchangeably for several years with no apparent difference to me. For the average "bank beating" fisherman's purpose does anyone want to weigh in on any of these three oils?

oe

[Tavery5]

Posted in older thread here:

Lube.............................Viscosity@78F (cP)

Mobil-1 0W-30 (syn)..................400
Superlube w/PTFE..................... 245
Zebco Needle Oiler.................... 206
Quicksilver Storage Seal............ 203
Abu Silicoat Reel Oil..................176


Browning Midas Gun Oil (syn)... 140
Quicksilver PS and Trim Oil........136
BSB Speed Bearing...................114


Red RF (hc)...............................93
PMI Paintball Gun Lube...............90
Power Steering Fluid................. .90
Diawa Std Needle Oiler............ ...84
Reel-X.......................................74

ATF Dextron III...........................62
Shimano Std. (hc).......................60
Yellow RF (hc)............................59
3-In-1 Oil...................................40

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Reel Butter..................................28
Quantum Hot Sauce......................25
X+1R..........................................21
Diawa TDZ lube (syn)...................18
Diawa/Liberto Pixy Lube (syn)........18
Whale Spit (hc)............................14
Abu Black Max .............................14

WD 40........................................6
Tournament RF (hc)......................4
Friction Zero Lub (hc/syn )............4
Rem Oil (hc)................................3

Reference: DI water.....................1
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Lube....Viscosity (cP) @ .....38F...........@78F.........@ 98F (cP)

Yellow RF ........................285..............59....... .......35
3-In-1 Oil.........................161....... ......40...............20
Quantum Hot Sauce...........100..............25............... 16

[OkobojiEagle]

Thanks for the chart. Rem Oil has left the building. I'm wondering how many anglers use 3-in-1 oil in bearings... might be a pretty good choice?

oe

[lilmule]

I have its good,keep one thing in mind temperature,the higher the viscosity the thicker,and stiffer when ice is on the line,my opinion is all.
So all more or less have an application where applied would be usefull.
Petroleum jelly would not work at all in the arctic,yet the rem might.
Ive used penn oil and browning a lot simply because it came with a new reel,and wd 40 is use full more in flushing than lubing,but use full none the less,if not for its water displacement properties alone.

[johnD]

Originally Posted by OkobojiEagle

Thanks for the chart. Rem Oil has left the building. I'm wondering how many anglers use 3-in-1 oil in bearings... might be a pretty good choice?

Saltwater guys down here in FL have told me that hot sauce crystallizes after a while , I'm not taking that chance.
Personally I use Shimano or Daiwa oil for bearings (after there flushed of coarse).And I use pennzoil marine grease on gears.



Many of the surf/casting competitors use 3 -1 oil on there conventional reels.(spool bearings)

the record is 859 ft

this is how its done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3zUB...eature=related

There is a web site called alantani.com take a look around there and see what he says about lubricants for reels.

http://alantani.com/index.php?board=2.0

[Crankbait]

Alan Tani is one of the best when it comes to bearings!!!!! I'Ve been following him for several years.