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Old 08-05-08, 05:24 PM   #1
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Default Depth - Fluoro vs Mono

Say you're using a crankbait and you're getting down 10' on a fast retrieve using 12 pound mono. How much deeper will 12' fluoro get you? Is there some rule of thumb for this?
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Old 08-05-08, 08:11 PM   #2
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I'd think you'd rely more on a crank bait with a bigger lip to get deeper rather than slight buoyancy differences between line types? You might also consider a 3-way swivel with a weight line to get down deeper.
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Old 08-05-08, 08:25 PM   #3
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and the drag from the line comes more from the diameter of it. and this does not always mean that lower lb. test is narrower. check the numbers on the line you use and compare it to other brands.

some also say that water temp plays a small factor. warmer water is less dense allowing a bait to dive deeper.
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Old 08-05-08, 08:35 PM   #4
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I'd think you'd rely more on a crank bait with a bigger lip to get deeper rather than slight buoyancy differences between line types? You might also consider a 3-way swivel with a weight line to get down deeper.
I always wondered what you would use a 3 way swivel for.
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Old 08-05-08, 10:21 PM   #5
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and the drag from the line comes more from the diameter of it. and this does not always mean that lower lb. test is narrower. check the numbers on the line you use and compare it to other brands.

every line that is 12 pound test is a differant diamater i use ande 12 pound test mono since it is a thin dia. mono. floro is the same way








some also say that water temp plays a small factor. warmer water is less dense allowing a bait to dive deeper.
in this your right. but it may vary as lil as 3"+/- in a 10 foot diver...

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I'm not trying to get the bait deeper. I'm just asking how much of a difference you can get. How about the difference between .013 mono and .013 fluoro? Any difference due to the materials?
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Old 08-05-08, 11:33 PM   #7
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The density is different. Throw your cut tag ends of mono and fluoro of identical diameter into a cup. Your three page report is due Friday.
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Your three page report is due Friday.
Please no. I still have one month until school starts.


But how can I tell how many inches deeper fluoro will get me than mono?
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Old 08-06-08, 12:10 AM   #9
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A crank bait thrown on flouro will always run deeper than on mono of the same diameter. Flouro is more dense and it sinks, so there isn't any resistance pushing the crank up.
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If it's depth you are looking for on a crankbait. I say mono 6 to 8 lb.
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Old 08-06-08, 09:18 AM   #11
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jools, go to a spot where you know the depth. throw your crank and go till you hit bottom. move deeper till you CAN'T make it hit anymore. that'll tell you exactly how deep a particular bait is running. make the line swap and see what happens.

I'm no expert but surely the difference can't be alot. like zook said about my water temp statement, +/- 3" isn't enough to make a difference to a fish.

i think the ratio of your reel and how much line is on your spool will be the biggest factors.
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There is no spot where I know the EXACT depth. I was looking for something similar to what lilmoose said.
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joolz

to be honest with you not every crankbait runs the excat same depth. if you bought 6 rapala dt6 only two will run 6 feet. 2 will run more 2 wont even hit 6 feet. this is all ball park but about average. wood baits like the dt6's dive differant due to the density of the wood and how many pitch knots are in them.



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I always wondered what you would use a 3 way swivel for.
Most often for trolling to get a bait (any bait) deeper in the water, even xx feet off the botom. An alternative to a downrigger I think. Casting and cranking a rig like this may get messy.
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zook, i was gonna mention the wood vs. plastic thing but i thought i've been yammering on a little too much already
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I'd think you'd rely more on a crank bait with a bigger lip to get deeper rather than slight buoyancy differences between line types? You might also consider a 3-way swivel with a weight line to get down deeper.


kevin van dam has proved, by rigging the same crankbait on three different poles equipt with three different line sizes, that you can slightly change the depth. at grand lake last year he used the line size that allowed his bait to just slightly tick the bottom. but i cant really say that flouro makes a big enough difference. i think that the resistance of the line size can make a difference on the depth.

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Yes, but how much is slight?
I understand there are so many more variables, but say EVERYTHING was the same except for the fact that one was fluoro and one was mono.
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