This will be last time I bring this subject up, PROMISE.

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My 2 cents. The last thing a potential new member should ever see is the existing members griping about anything to do with the site. discusions about a site going downhill just speed it up. If you wan't new members here then put up new and informative posts about fishing. The site was reopened to new members back in the early spring after the bot issue got fixed. New people stop by, they just are not seeing anything they want to stick around for.
The bass holes site went down fast after Jared sold it. It gets blamed on the new owners, and some of it is thier fault, but there was a mass exodus of members who just quit showing up. That didn't have anything to do with the new owners doing something wrong, it was just that jared and several key members had been the glue holding it togther and when they left, the postings went downhill fast. Then, new members would show up and not see anything interesting so they didn't stick around.