I fished a lake with lots of standing timber today.

WTL · 03-23-07, 10:59 PM

I have 2 questions. First, big expensive bass boats were running full bore through stump fields with tons of stumps cut off just below the surface and not hitting anything. Do rigs that cost more than 30k have some sort of magical device that makes them imperveous to hitting stuff in the water, or were these guys just lucky morons?

And question number 2, I got caught up on some timber a couple times, the timber marooning me basically - am I the only one that has this happen to them? Is there a better way than just full boring off the timber and hoping something doesnt get busted?

ILfishinman · 03-23-07, 11:09 PM

uh if they are hydroplaning they are ontop the water, but seems like a dumb move, i got stuck on a stump once when i rented a jonboat, took me and my mom bout 20 mins to get off it, we just had a trolling motor, we just spun around till we got off of it.

Rebbasser · 03-24-07, 12:17 AM

1. If they are not in a marked boat trail they are dang lucky. Run like that enough and they will hit something.

2. So far the TM pulled me off just fine. A shallow mud flat, now...Had a couple of adventures getting out of that.

KenDammit · 03-24-07, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ILfishinman

uh if they are hydroplaning they are ontop the water, but seems like a dumb move, i got stuck on a stump once when i rented a jonboat, took me and my mom bout 20 mins to get off it, we just had a trolling motor, we just spun around till we got off of it.

A boat is never on top of the water..it is always displacing, unless you're going at pretty excessive speeds and then only your motor is in the water and the very back part of the hull.

No matter the case, it'd be real stupid to go that fast through stumps...one hit on the prop and you could be flipped, turned and catch an edge, rip the motor off, anything could happen.

zooker · 03-24-07, 12:51 PM

an average boat on plane basicly sticks down no more than 24" under the surface. high speed boats may only have 6" of the moter in the water -if they are running 100+- odds are they ae running the creek channel..

zooker

WTL · 03-24-07, 01:46 PM

There was no channel or marked path.

And most stumps were less than 6 inches under the surface.

InEccess · 03-24-07, 08:50 PM

There's a member in the Bass Club I fish in that lost his Outboard that way. Luckily, his insurance company was more then happy to buy him a new one. I have a co-worker that lost his motor hitting a croc in South Carolina. There are things worse then stumps to hit while on plane.

lizardsrule · 03-24-07, 08:55 PM

Are you sure there wasn't a channel there? They may know where it is, and they can use it. If you really want to fish a stump field, might I suggest Rodman or Stickmarsh rotfl. I've been stuck many times on stumps. You can most of the time use the trolling motor to get off of them, but sometimes it might take the big motor being fired up. I've seen a few lower end units destroyed due to running to fast and hitting a stump. If they knew where to run, then OK, otherwise not only were they lucky, they were really really stupid. If this was a lake in Alabama, I would guess they are inbreeders LOL. Many times shifting your weight around(moving to the rear or front perhaps or even rocking back and forth) will make the difference for you to pop off of them. I did have to pull someone off of a stump at Stickmarsh, not saying who though rotfl.Lizrds

WTL · 03-24-07, 09:10 PM

Naw Lizards, this was mississippi actually...so worse....

Jolly · 03-25-07, 02:16 AM

Our lake is full of standing timber and can be dangerous if you don't know where the channel is (obviously). Plus, there is no marked paths in any of the channels throughout the lake. Since we (and many others) have been fishing lake since it was extremely low up to where it is now (a movement of 30 feet or so) we know where the channel is and where to run safely in all creeks as to not die! Odds are those guys in those expensive boats knew where the channel was and knew right where to run, otherwise, surely they wouldn't be taking that obviously stupid risk. Maybe those guys are morons but chances are much better that they (I'm assuming there was more then one) knew where to run and how fast they could push their boats. Then again after watching the classic this year, its obvious there are idiots out there that take stupid risks with their high dollar boats. Anyway, just my 2 cents!

Jolly

bassnman30 · 03-26-07, 08:07 PM

I must agree with Jolly. LA has alot of stumps, but if you find a good path through these areas you can go "the short way".

flfireman · 03-31-07, 10:34 PM

Yeah, Lucky moron would probably be right. Ive actually seen people get hung up on timber with TM speed. Then to have some SOB pull ya off in your home lake after he caught all the fish on ya is just down right embarassing. Like I said "Ive seen this happen before" ROTFLMAO

FlyRod · 04-01-07, 12:35 PM

Besides the obvious, there are two factors which contribute to many accidents involving wood/rock v. boat. First, changes in lake level reduce or eliminate certain known hazards...if it's high and dry, or plainly visible, you aren't likely to hit it. However, the aforementioned changes usually bring heretofore safely deep hazards nearer to or above the surface= new hazards.
Second, heavy rains and flooding will usually carry "floaters" downstream, some traveling the entire length of the lake. These may be nothing more than a little piece of bark, a twig, etc., but are often large tree trunks that will either float with only the least bit above surface or suspend, totally concealed, a few inches below surface. Running in clearly marked boat lanes or in usually open water will not be totally safe until these hazards have come to rest somewhere or have become so waterlogged as to sink well beyond the reach of hull or prop.
There are other types of floaters as well. Many moons ago, on a lake here in Texas, an acquaintance and I were drifting along, hull to hull, discussing shoes, ship, sealing wax, cabbages and kings, fishing. After our chat and shared snacks were finished, I watched as he motored off to seek the wily bass. When he was perhaps a quarter of a mile away and I was admiring the roostertail (the boat's tail, NOT his!) he struck something and came to a stop after the boat did a scary imitation of a skyrocket.
Seems a defunct *bovine, intact but all abloat, was simmering in the lake waters. He struck it, nearly full-bore. There was no damage to the boat, but he and his partner were nearly overcome by the shock and the fumes emitted from a ripped-open and putrifying carcass.
So, be careful. "There are old pilots and there are bold pilots, but there are no old bold pilots."

FR

*See: Moo cow.
(Got milk?)

zooker · 04-01-07, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by flfireman

Ive actually seen people get hung up on timber with TM speed. Then to have some SOB pull ya off in your home lake after he caught all the fish on ya is just down right embarassing. Like I said "Ive seen this happen before" ROTFLMAO

gee wonder who that could have been hmmm... i heard about that from the pullee not the hung on a stump.. or was that a boat trailer??rotflmao..

zooker

WTL · 04-01-07, 05:51 PM

Yea I saw a dead cow with a cut taken out of it once floating in the lake. Not nice.

Anybody ever see the movie Rob Roy? Thats what it reminded me of, where he hides in the carcass of a dead longhaired cow.

03-23-07, 10:59 PM	#1
WTL BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntsville, Al Posts: 7,466	I fished a lake with lots of standing timber today. I have 2 questions. First, big expensive bass boats were running full bore through stump fields with tons of stumps cut off just below the surface and not hitting anything. Do rigs that cost more than 30k have some sort of magical device that makes them imperveous to hitting stuff in the water, or were these guys just lucky morons? And question number 2, I got caught up on some timber a couple times, the timber marooning me basically - am I the only one that has this happen to them? Is there a better way than just full boring off the timber and hoping something doesnt get busted? __________________ Selling live waterdogs for less since 2005.

03-23-07, 11:09 PM	#2
ILfishinman BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Champaign, Illinois Posts: 706	uh if they are hydroplaning they are ontop the water, but seems like a dumb move, i got stuck on a stump once when i rented a jonboat, took me and my mom bout 20 mins to get off it, we just had a trolling motor, we just spun around till we got off of it. __________________ If light moves at 670616629 MPH, how fast is Dark? Bass count 07: lost count

03-24-07, 12:17 AM	#3
Rebbasser BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 10,141	1. If they are not in a marked boat trail they are dang lucky. Run like that enough and they will hit something. 2. So far the TM pulled me off just fine. A shallow mud flat, now...Had a couple of adventures getting out of that. __________________ It's happened to the best of them: John 21:3

03-24-07, 12:51 PM	#5
zooker BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: denton nc Posts: 13,441	an average boat on plane basicly sticks down no more than 24" under the surface. high speed boats may only have 6" of the moter in the water -if they are running 100+- odds are they ae running the creek channel.. zooker __________________ the godfather.. aml in remission since 7-20-09

03-24-07, 01:46 PM	#6
WTL BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntsville, Al Posts: 7,466	There was no channel or marked path. And most stumps were less than 6 inches under the surface. __________________ Selling live waterdogs for less since 2005.

03-24-07, 08:50 PM	#7
InEccess BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: East of Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 227	There's a member in the Bass Club I fish in that lost his Outboard that way. Luckily, his insurance company was more then happy to buy him a new one. I have a co-worker that lost his motor hitting a croc in South Carolina. There are things worse then stumps to hit while on plane. __________________ Bass Club '07 season Rookie of the Year runner up. '08 seasons Runner Up. Second overall.

03-24-07, 08:55 PM	#8
lizardsrule BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saint Augustine, FL Posts: 7,374	Are you sure there wasn't a channel there? They may know where it is, and they can use it. If you really want to fish a stump field, might I suggest Rodman or Stickmarsh rotfl. I've been stuck many times on stumps. You can most of the time use the trolling motor to get off of them, but sometimes it might take the big motor being fired up. I've seen a few lower end units destroyed due to running to fast and hitting a stump. If they knew where to run, then OK, otherwise not only were they lucky, they were really really stupid. If this was a lake in Alabama, I would guess they are inbreeders LOL. Many times shifting your weight around(moving to the rear or front perhaps or even rocking back and forth) will make the difference for you to pop off of them. I did have to pull someone off of a stump at Stickmarsh, not saying who though rotfl.Lizrds __________________ There are three types of Snakes I hate 1. Live Snakes 2. Dead Snakes 3. Sticks that look like Snakes. And Gators too!

03-24-07, 09:10 PM	#9
WTL BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntsville, Al Posts: 7,466	Naw Lizards, this was mississippi actually...so worse.... __________________ Selling live waterdogs for less since 2005.

03-25-07, 02:16 AM	#10
Jolly BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Texas Posts: 368	Our lake is full of standing timber and can be dangerous if you don't know where the channel is (obviously). Plus, there is no marked paths in any of the channels throughout the lake. Since we (and many others) have been fishing lake since it was extremely low up to where it is now (a movement of 30 feet or so) we know where the channel is and where to run safely in all creeks as to not die! Odds are those guys in those expensive boats knew where the channel was and knew right where to run, otherwise, surely they wouldn't be taking that obviously stupid risk. Maybe those guys are morons but chances are much better that they (I'm assuming there was more then one) knew where to run and how fast they could push their boats. Then again after watching the classic this year, its obvious there are idiots out there that take stupid risks with their high dollar boats. Anyway, just my 2 cents! Jolly __________________ "Here fishy, fishy!!!"

03-26-07, 08:07 PM	#11
bassnman30 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lexington,NC-Worlds best BBQ. Posts: 1,945	I must agree with Jolly. LA has alot of stumps, but if you find a good path through these areas you can go "the short way". __________________ Lexington,NC.

03-31-07, 10:34 PM	#12
flfireman BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Palm Bay, Fl Posts: 2,751	Yeah, Lucky moron would probably be right. Ive actually seen people get hung up on timber with TM speed. Then to have some SOB pull ya off in your home lake after he caught all the fish on ya is just down right embarassing. Like I said "Ive seen this happen before" ROTFLMAO __________________ In the Lord all things are possible.

04-01-07, 12:35 PM	#13
FlyRod BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,270	Besides the obvious, there are two factors which contribute to many accidents involving wood/rock v. boat. First, changes in lake level reduce or eliminate certain known hazards...if it's high and dry, or plainly visible, you aren't likely to hit it. However, the aforementioned changes usually bring heretofore safely deep hazards nearer to or above the surface= new hazards. Second, heavy rains and flooding will usually carry "floaters" downstream, some traveling the entire length of the lake. These may be nothing more than a little piece of bark, a twig, etc., but are often large tree trunks that will either float with only the least bit above surface or suspend, totally concealed, a few inches below surface. Running in clearly marked boat lanes or in usually open water will not be totally safe until these hazards have come to rest somewhere or have become so waterlogged as to sink well beyond the reach of hull or prop. There are other types of floaters as well. Many moons ago, on a lake here in Texas, an acquaintance and I were drifting along, hull to hull, discussing shoes, ship, sealing wax, cabbages and kings, fishing. After our chat and shared snacks were finished, I watched as he motored off to seek the wily bass. When he was perhaps a quarter of a mile away and I was admiring the roostertail (the boat's tail, NOT his!) he struck something and came to a stop after the boat did a scary imitation of a skyrocket. Seems a defunct bovine, intact but all abloat, was simmering in the lake waters. He struck it, nearly full-bore. There was no damage to the boat, but he and his partner were nearly overcome by the shock and the fumes emitted from a ripped-open and putrifying carcass. So, be careful. "There are old pilots and there are bold pilots, but there are no old bold pilots." FR See: Moo cow. (Got milk?)

04-01-07, 05:51 PM	#15
WTL BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntsville, Al Posts: 7,466	Yea I saw a dead cow with a cut taken out of it once floating in the lake. Not nice. Anybody ever see the movie Rob Roy? Thats what it reminded me of, where he hides in the carcass of a dead longhaired cow. __________________ Selling live waterdogs for less since 2005.

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