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Old 07-21-05, 09:34 PM   #1
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So what ya think over the last few decades are improvements to bass fishing
or just total waste of time
A few that come to mind on the best side
1. Line...seems like it stronger, thinner, variety of braids and mono
2.. TV Shows that no longer show some fat cat catching hawgs all day,
but now show competition that outlines the thinking process of figuring the
pattern as well as show the excitement of the catch
3. Forums like this, and the Internet
4. More realistic plastics with scent additives
5. Smoother equipment to fish with,,better reels, stronger rods, bass boats that
are state of the art.

A few come to mind on the Worst Side
1. Flying Lure .....lol
2. Whiz Bang, sure it works , but who the hell can find one?
3. The endless mesmerizing of bass shows that hypnotize us into buy the new and latest lure, no wait , thats a Good thing lmao
4. Clowns that catch and don't release, or up the weight of any fish by double
or, bring home a stringer and never fillet it, what a waste..
5. ski boats and wave runner..should be on the top but just now rememered

Any one else have thier own 5n 5...and i dont mean Arbys
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Old 07-21-05, 09:47 PM   #2
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Great topic

5 Best

1. Conservation laws, we wouldnt have bass to catch or clean water to fish in with out it
2. Technology- definetly has made fishin easier
3. Bass research-- We have learned a phenominal amount about these fish
4. A President that is a sportsman-- getting federal funding
5. Television and Internet-- has made this sport even more popular

5 Worst

1. Poachers
2. Polluters
3. Invasive species
4. Droughts
5. GAS PRICES
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Old 07-21-05, 09:50 PM   #3
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C´mon the Flying Lure isn´t THAT bad, how about the Helicopter Lure ?......hey the Walking Worm is also in the infamous "most undesirable" list
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Old 07-21-05, 09:51 PM   #4
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Those are some great points there NB and Raul, ya got your thinkin cap on tonight
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Old 07-22-05, 04:07 PM   #5
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Best
1. Lure selection. Every kind of lure you can think of is made. Plus more.
Worst
1. Idiots in expensive rigs that have the nerve to run all over you.
2. Fishing pressure

Thats all I can think of right now.
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Old 07-22-05, 05:19 PM   #6
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Best
1. lure selection
2. pole strength and flexibility
3. technology as far as motors, fish finders, depth finders, and gps
4. reels
5. internet for availability of lures, ect.

worst
1. when you hit a school of fish and there's about 3 or so boats trolling through it, but all staying in line until some new jerk off shows up and decides he has to troll from a different side as everyone else, then everyone has to stop and let him pass through, then he does it again. ****ing *** hole
2. dumb asses that over fish small ponds
3. other dumb asses that keep every single fish regardless of size
4. rookie know it alls
5. home shopping network lures
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Old 07-22-05, 06:02 PM   #7
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BEST
1. New technology as in motors, depth finders and such
2. BASS saturdays on ESPN
3. Conservation laws keeping lakes in good condition
4. Availability of lures and all that stuff
5. Internet making it easy to learn

WORST
1. Idiots who don't know the meaning of catch and release (I saw 2 7lb bass fileted ona bank a week ago...made me cry almost)
2. Other idiots who way overfish a pond and ruin the body of water
3. More idiots who don't know what a trash can is and throw all their junk anywhere they feel like it
4. Over development of florida polluting a bunch of good bodies of water and killing off species.
5. Idiots like Mike Ike who are trying to make the sport look like something that it isn't.
6. Kids who caught a bass once and think they know everything and are a**holes to anyone that actually does know anything.... I know a few.
7. Invasive species, almost forgot
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Old 10-02-05, 07:00 PM   #8
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5. Idiots like Mike Ike who are trying to make the sport look like something that it isn't.
Ok buddy, don't go that far. Mike Ike just likes to get into the sport as much as he can. He gets you exited about catching that big hawg(even tho he yells at 1lb fish) that it makes you want to go out and fish extra hard. In my opinion he is a vital part of bass fishing today.
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Old 10-03-05, 01:02 PM   #9
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Ok buddy, don't go that far. Mike Ike just likes to get into the sport as much as he can. He gets you exited about catching that big hawg(even tho he yells at 1lb fish) that it makes you want to go out and fish extra hard. In my opinion he is a vital part of bass fishing today.
First off have you ever asked or talked to other "Pro's" who compete with him, and asked their opinion of his antics or what he does when he catches a fish when not on camera? I have personally talked with three different Pro's who have fished against him, and I believe he is the most unliked Pro by the other Pro's on tour. He is always looking out for himself, and has no desire to help anyone else out. He is a LOUDMOUTH on the Camera, but doesn't act like that when prefishing So the fact is he is acting for the camera and audience. Yes he has introduced some younger folks into Bass fishing,(not sure they are any better than he is though because of their attitudes and antics) and without a doubt he is one of the top Pro's on the tour. But I don't care how good he is, plain old consideration, and thoughtfulness for others is definately lacking in his attributes. I also talked to a Gentleman who fished in a tourney with him as a back boater. Ike's first words out of his mouth were, sit down and relax, because that's all the fish your gonna get today. So again it isn't about being a good and decent person, and allow the guy in the back(who paid to be here too) a chance, it was all about him. So you can go fishing with Mike , then tell me how great he is after that.

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Old 07-22-05, 06:22 PM   #10
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Best....
1. More sensative lines
2. Graphite Rods
3. The Advent of the Senko and it's clones
4. Charlie Brewer and his Slider Technique
5. Speedworm in watermelon/red rigged weightless and fished slo-fall
6. Jack Chandler's Do Nothing Worm....a predesessor to the Senko
7. Zooms new bait, the modified brush hog now called the Super Hog
8. Wide angle fish finders
9. Quieter trolling motors
10. 4 Stroke engines

Worst.....
1. Inconsiderate boaters on the waters...
2. Littering
3. Slowing down others at the ramp
4. Foul language in the presence of children
5. Not disposing of used line properly injuring wildlife and fouling trolling motors...
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Old 07-22-05, 06:50 PM   #11
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Man, you guys are all hitting home with these comments ,they are dead on!
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Old 07-23-05, 09:51 AM   #12
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Guys all the things that have been mentioned are true they are either improvments or they are negatives. I have mixed emotions about one thing.
At what point do scent enhanced lures become like using live bait?
I do us them. But think about it. There are the Berkley scented baits and the Yum with LPT. Back in the 60's when I first fished a plastic worm as they were called in those days. they were fished on a lead head and had no enhancement either mechanical or scent. They still caught an increadable number of fish.
I suppose that fishing pressure ,catch and release and enviromental conditioning have made it necassary to come up with additional strike triggering properties buy again at what time do they rival live bait?
I use them but have very mixed emotions. What do you think? Fish2win
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Old 07-23-05, 11:54 AM   #13
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Guys all the things that have been mentioned are true they are either improvments or they are negatives. I have mixed emotions about one thing.
At what point do scent enhanced lures become like using live bait?
I do us them. But think about it. There are the Berkley scented baits and the Yum with LPT. Back in the 60's when I first fished a plastic worm as they were called in those days. they were fished on a lead head and had no enhancement either mechanical or scent. They still caught an increadable number of fish.
I suppose that fishing pressure ,catch and release and enviromental conditioning have made it necassary to come up with additional strike triggering properties buy again at what time do they rival live bait?
I use them but have very mixed emotions. What do you think? Fish2win
I dunno. To me the scent enhancements are more like using a softer plastic for better action. It makes the bait a little better but it's still not alive.

You mentioned fishing worms back in the 60's. I know alot of guys dumped anise oil on their worms back then.
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Old 07-23-05, 12:05 PM   #14
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Naw its just a smell,

A real alive bait breathes, moves feels pain etc lol
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Old 07-23-05, 02:42 PM   #15
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5 OF THE BEST

1. I think slot sizes on chosen lakes are a good idea. This will help rejuvenate the fish count in these much deserving lakes.

2. The ever ending selection in lures,plastics and overall product lines which most companies have. including rods,reels.... and so forth.

3. Knowledge base, Ie internet and newer programing and illustrated books that we didn't have back when.

4. Stronger line, not only landing more fish in the boat without snapping line, but also saving more lures that would have been lost on crappy line.(braided line was a GOD send)

5. Better boats not only have boat design been more comfortable and safer, you also get to your fishing hole a lot quicker now. Taking on comming waves is alot easier now. Trolling motors instead of rowing so you wont spook the fish. (LIVE WELLS) these are just some of the thing I think that have come along way. And there are many more I just didn't write down.

5 OF WORST

1. Chineese fishermen that keep everything they catch is probably the worst thing in fishing today!

2. Not banning lead all over the world. We as humans put at least 3 dump trucks worth of lead in our lakes each year! This is not cool by any means!

3. Allowing Native Americans to gill net fish! We are all in the modern time and they no longer live in WIG WHAMS so if they want to live in a house and drive a car then you don't need to live off the land and kill the ever so depleting fish stocks.

4. The fishermen who litter when they go fishing! I'ts no too hard to clean up after one's self when your out fishing. Rule of thumb "what ever you take out with ya ,bring back with ya!"

5. There is not enough hot chicks fishing! I think we should spread the word to all the hot chicks that fishing is fun! and maybe they could go topless and get a tan while they are doing it? This is my ever ending quest!


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Old 07-23-05, 02:59 PM   #16
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I can't see that scents are bad, often they simply cover up (mask) other undesireable scents. I don't believe in the scent trail theory, but rather being an enticement once the bass grabs on to the lure. If this is so, the bass already has the lure in its mouth with the intent of doing great bodily harm and the taste/scent just keeps him hanging on. The lure, in essence, has already been attacked.

Live bait, on the other hand, is a misnomer in my opinion......as very few live baits used for bait remain alive for any lengthy period. The worms drown, the minnows die, the crawfish eventually succomb on their own having been impailed on the hook. True, a rare few may survive the ordeal, but as a rule they generally don't.
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Old 07-23-05, 03:20 PM   #17
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five best
1. all the shows
2.conservation laws
3. walleye fishin is good this year so it v=can take some stress off of me not catchin bass
4. better soft plastics
5.the better patterns for cranks

five worst
1.carp
2.bluegail
3.polluters
4.snags
5.the stupid homos who keep everyting they catch
sincerely,
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Old 07-23-05, 07:20 PM   #18
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superbass,
I can't agree with you on the idea that luegill are a big problem with bass fishing. At least they are native to the water around here even though they are annoying. I'm more worried about non-natives with no predators in the area, such as snakeheads.
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Don't forget that bluegill forage is what many bass eat all year long, there necessary in the food chain. In bigger lakes the shad takes that role, but for many a pond angler, the sun fish and others that spawn are important to the bass's diet including crawfish, frogs, and insects.
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1.Line-Braid immediately comes to mind, although i think it could be improved by alot. Flourocarbon and the progression of mono are great too.
2.Boats,motors,and electronics-Let's face it:the motors of yesteryear sucked compared to the Mercury EFI's, Verado's, Yamaha V-max's and the evinrude e-tec's. The 4 stroke outboard itself it great. Same with the new electronics, which are going farther than ever before. Every year, the boats get more and more accessories on them.
3.Soft Plastics-tubes, the Senko,brush hogs, flukes, these things changed the way the average angler fishes bass considerably.
4.Catch and release-this alone has made fishing so much better to the average bank fisherman to the Tour pro.
5.BASS-Ray Scott elevated the status of the bass in America and he's the reason bass fishing is one of the biggest things in all of fishing.
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wwell they do eat the bass eggs
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Whenever I try to fish live bait any time of year, the stupid gills git to it first before the bass even have a chance.
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tht is why i rig a worm so that it is on the hook and have a tail off cast it out and retrieve it and you will have a ball with all those bass
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[B]Best:

Catch and Release
Equipment
[B]True Sportsman- True sportsman practice catch and release and dont abuse the environment or the fish.
Livewells
Tv Shows[/B]

Worst:

People who take large bass home for the dinner table. Those fish fuel the population.
Tv lures
PETA- They need to mind their own damn business and stay out of the proud fishing lifestyle.
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Best:

1.Catch & Release
2.Equipment
3.Tv shows that give tips and techniques
4.Sensible Anglers- anglers who practice catch and release and dont abuse the environment or the fish.

Worst:

1.When people take large bass home for the dinner table. Don't they know that those fish fuel the population.
2.Tv lures
3.PETA- those morons need to mind their own damn business and stay out of the proud fishing lifestyle.
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